What favourite AQ vs 88 preflop?

had AQ against 88 4 times today and lost everytime all in. wots the odds for these two hands?

How unfortunate.

Here's a poker calculator for ya: http://www.twodimes.net/poker/

so the other person was favourite everytime

yep.

22>AKs

yea. in a cash game, having a pair vs overcards is ok, overcards vs a pair is less ok. But, losing 4 times with overcards just sucks.

I think the lesson is dont go all in with AK

Or even worse, AQ

Originally Posted by Laeelin

yep.

22>AKs

AsKs vs 2c2h AKs is a favorite

50.1% vs 49.9%

I use cardplayer's calculator

Originally Posted by edudlive

Originally Posted by Laeelin

yep.

22>AKs

AsKs vs 2c2h AKs is a favorite

50.1% vs 49.9%

I use cardplayer's calculator

Only because of the suites you picked :P

2c 2h
Ah Kh

thats another story

try to avoid coinflips in cash games,... it's lunacy.

Any PP is a favorite over overs.

Originally Posted by jmontis

try to avoid coinflips in cash games,... it's lunacy.

Agreed. Doesn't really matter which hand is up by ~3% preflop. If you suspect you're in the situation of overs v low/mid pp, I'd almost always try to get out without losing anything, from either side of it. Now if you can get the other person to fold, that's different (but you MUST have reads for this to apply).

I second that, coin flips are for when the blinds are applying heavy preassure, and for making me money when they call my AA with AK thinking it's a "coinflop"

Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores

Any PP is a favorite over overs.

Any suited connector from JTs to 76s vs 22 of different suits, is 54% favourite, according to cardplayer.

a lot of suited connecters are favorites over a lot of lower pocket pairs, just AKs is only a favorite over 22 with different suits.

realistically though, all pocket pairs are ahead of everything else. Reason being its really hard to push with JTs, because the chance of you being dominated is high (or at best 40-60), but with AKs the more or less worst case scenario is its a flip.

Why are you all in with these hands preflop?

Sometimes coinflipping in cashgames helps a lot. You need the bankroll to do it though. My most profitable sessions have usually involved coinflips early which I lose because I then get people to call my preflop all-ins when I have KK or AA.

Originally Posted by chardrian

Sometimes coinflipping in cashgames helps a lot. You need the bankroll to do it though. My most profitable sessions have usually involved coinflips early which I lose because I then get people to call my preflop all-ins when I have KK or AA.

If you have the bankroll, that would imply you're playing enough to have a picture on the long term. In the long term, coinflipping is exactly break-even.

I can see your argument about it changing your image to get people to call, but honestly, how many coinflips do you think it takes for people to solidly have that image of you? How many times are you expecting to get people to call when you have KK/AA? What I'm getting at is this: if you have to drop a couple of buyins coinflipping to get people to call your KK/AA push and make up a buyin, are you significantly ahead? Would these people have folded to you if you hadn't coinflipped earlier?

I think you'd achieve the same effect with a more +EV sort of aggro play (raising in spots where you have high folding equity).

Originally Posted by Laeelin

I think the lesson is dont go all in with AK

You so silly.

It depends on the table really, if you think you are likely to be up against an unpaired hand, by all means go all in with AK. If not, though, don't. (for cash games i mean, tourneys it's another story altogether lol)