Quote Originally Posted by CrackingYou
I understand BR management.
Totally without sarcasm and insult: no you don't. You don't play 25/50 NL buying in for 3000 of your 5000 total roll. That's not bankroll management; that's bankroll disaster in the works. Because when you lose that 3000 (and certainly you'll lose a buy-in eventually -- all players eventually go on a 10+ buyin swing--it's impossible to avoid without quitting poker), you've devastated your bankroll and you don't really have one anymore.

A professional player with a $5000 bankroll should be playing .50/1NL and no higher. There's simply too much variance in this game to take any bigger shots as a serious professional.

Also, if you don't see why turning $50 into $4000 takes 18 months and that's a GOOD speed, then you simply don't understand BR management.

Quote Originally Posted by CrackingYou
This thread is about backers people. All this thread should be about is YOUR experience with a backer.
Thanks.
You didn't actually ask us about our experience with backers. I don't think most of us have any experience with backers, at least not on this forum. If so, it's not very widely discussed. I also take some offense to you trying to chart my response to your question. Hopefully I'm able to respond to your question in any way I see fit, and you can use any or all of that information as you see fit. If not, I imagine I'll quit using the forum. Back on topic: Bottom line is, this isn't really a choice. One is clearly better than the other. Any serious cash player who has potential to be a professional is going to have a lot better go of it if they can keep all of the profit rather than 50% (which is fairly standard backing arrangement). Why would you want to fork over half your paycheck? I think 90% of backing arrangements are because someone can already beat a limit (they're a proven winner there) but for whatever reason they don't have the bankroll to play at that limit. It's a loan to play with an incredible amount of vig. I think the other 10% are losing players convincing someone they're a winner.

I think your best bet is to get at least 10K behind and start at 1/2NL, assuming you can beat that limit. Keep all of your profit, of course. If you can't win 10K in your juicy sidegames and you KNOW you're a winner at a limit where you could make enough to subside, then why not borrow the money from a non-poker-backer? Certainly a real-world interest rate is going to be far less than your backer taking half the profit. I've often wondered if Prosper (a web startup of people loaning money) would be a viable means of obtaining a bankroll. Probably.