The 2013 Diary of a Semi-LAG Tilt Monkey

Originally Posted by rpm

this is ridiculous imo. the size of their opening range is almost irrelevant in what hands we should 3bet for value. do you understand why? there are heaps of resources on forming 3betting ranges in the Beginers Circle, i suggest you'd be better off reading over them (particularly forming "A,B,C, and D" ranges) than applying this information

Thanks for stopping by rpm. I assume your main concern is that whilst I can technically 3-bet this range for value and show a profit, I'm wasting the value of a large part of this range by 3-betting given most villain's fold too often to 3-bets?

Do you think it's better to widen my value range at the micros though compared to the narrow {QQ+, AK} range that Renton mentions, with most 3-bets reasonably light?

Originally Posted by The Bean Counter

Thanks for stopping by rpm. I assume your main concern is that whilst I can technically 3-bet this range for value and show a profit, I'm wasting the value of a large part of this range by 3-betting given most villain's fold too often to 3-bets?

Do you think it's better to widen my value range at the micros though compared to the narrow {QQ+, AK} range that Renton mentions, with most 3-bets reasonably light?

my main concern with that idea, unless of course i misunderstood it, is that it instructs you to 3bet a certain % of what you believe your opponent to be opening. but the main factor we should be considering is what range they continue with when we are 3betting for value. 3betting AQo against a person who opens 50% but only continues with QQ+,AK is still spew, make sense? because we value-own ourselves against his continuing range, and we turn a hand which we could very easily call and play profitably into an effective bluff.

as for the second question, yeah i definitely think that's a good idea. look for people who call too many 3bets and rarely 4bet to widen your value 3bet range against.