Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
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Villain in this hand is a big fish whale 52/5/1.8 type, so I hate this turn jam. I should just take the odds he's giving me. If anything I'd say passivey regs might take min raise lines for cheap showdowns but not fish.

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($439) 110bb
UTG+1 ($141.80) 35bb
CO ($599.20) 150bb
BTN ($496.40) 124bb
griffey24 (SB) ($446.50) 112bb
BB ($327.20) 82bb

Pre-Flop: ($6, 6 players) griffey24 is SB
4 folds, griffey24 raises to $12, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24, 2 players)
griffey24 bets $12, BB calls $12

Turn: ($48, 2 players)
griffey24 bets $35, BB raises to $70, griffey24 goes all-in $422.50, BB calls $233.20

River: ($654.40, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $654.40
griffey24 shows

BB shows


BB wins $651.40 (net +$324.20)

griffey24 collects $238.60 (net -$207.90)

Hands for analysis
e.g. this hand, I think you count the whole pot as a an avoidable loss. Pre, flop and turn bets aren't avoidable losses - that's all played fine. It's the shove over the turn minraise that you feel is avoidable. So you want to add just (Turn Shove) - (Preflop, Flop and Initial Turn bets) and put that into avoidable losses.

It won't be perfect, because in some hands where you make a mistake you're only taking a slightly -EV option instead of a slightly +EV option, but if you want to add up all the money you put in "playing badly" IMO this is the best way