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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphex8 View Post
    Cheers!

    First thing I've wanted to establish is my UTG range. Obv depends on a lot of other factors but looking at a lot of charts it seems to vary a lot. Just a template to work of would be good. As for the button I'm working off about 40%(?) which I feel is alright. But anyone please go ahead and say I'm wrong.
    One of the first things that would be good to work on is getting together preflop ranges that you are happy with the reasoning behind them, rather than just using generic ones. I mean in terms of, if you open say 10% UTG, or 40% on the button, or whatever, what does that mean in terms of how people can exploit you by 3betting - for example, if you open 10% UTG then only 4bet AA/KK and fold everything else to a 3bet, you are folding about 90% of your opening range, so you can be 3bet with any two cards profitably.

    http://en.donkr.com/Articles/optimal...x---part-1-329 is really good and covers a lot of this. I'd try to come up with ranges for what you open by default, what you do by default when 3bet (ie. you fold some hands, 4bet some for value, 4bet some as a bluff, call a 3bet with some). When choosing the hands to 4bet bluff with, bear in mind that it's nice to block villains continuing range, and to have something that flops some equity to continue aggression fairly often (stuff like small AXs fill both of these requirements).

    Once you have those ranges, you might actually want to deviate very significantly indeed from them at 2NL - mostly, 2NL players aren't going to be 3betting you with stuff that they are ever folding to a 4bet for example, so 4bet bluffing would then be bad, but I still think the process of deriving these balanced ranges for yourself is really good study to do.

    In a sense, you actually want to derive your preflop opening ranges by working backwards. What I mean by that is, in each position there will be certain hands you think you can 4bet for value and call a jam with when you get 3bet. Those will be hands with 50%+ equity (well, actually slightly less because of the dead money) vs. villains jamming range. Once you know what those hands are, you can come up with a range of hands you can 4bet bluff with - there can't be too many, because otherwise you can be bluff jammed on profitably - you have to be willing to felt a certain percentage of your 4bet range, based on pot odds (ie. what does villain risk when bluff jamming, and what does he stand to win when you fold). So now, by working backwards, you have a whole 4bet range, and that in turn decides what you can open (because, of what you open, you have to 4bet a certain %age, otherwise you can be 3bet bluffed profitably). Working through the donkr article will get you started, if you want more advice drop me a PM and we'll skype about this if you want to go through the whole process.

    40% on the button is fine. You can open wider though, because people play way too tight from the blinds at these stakes. Over 50% would probably be difficult to maintain, but 50% is certainly possible.

    Since you wanted a starting point for an UTG range, here's mine: 33+, AJo+, KQo, 78s+, QTs+, KTs+, ATs+

    Last edited by BorisTheSpider; 11-23-2013 at 03:04 PM.
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    Thanks for the response and link Boris, will have to re read it to digest it properly but I'll PM soon about it. What you said has definitely helped me, especially with making me think about actions in future streets with hands and developing plans.

    Playing is going alright, running pretty lol which makes for an amusing ev graph but starting to grasp a opening and 3bet range. I think the main thing to work on is just tight and discipline OOP and make sure I'm not trying to 3bet to light to often for the time being. It's not as if value spots won't be appearing just around the corner.

    Also won my first torney, 176 person $2.20 shoot out where apparently anything goes, so that gave me a $70 booster to the roll. With that I'm thinking of a grinderschool sub which I've seen being discussed on here recently and recommended.

    But still truckin' along, will post a graph a 10k and some stats to see if there's any leaks developing I'm not yet aware of.

    Played this hand yesterday whick left me confused.

    PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BB: $3.27
    UTG: $5.23
    CO: $4.24
    BTN: $2.00 (VPIP: 32.89, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 16.00, Hands: 79)
    Hero (SB): $3.08

    Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K 5

    UTG raises to $0.04, fold, BTN calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.03, fold

    Flop: ($0.14, 3 players) 4 3 2
    Hero bets $0.06, fold, BTN raises to $0.16, Hero calls $0.10

    Turn: ($0.46, 2 players) 7
    Hero checks, BTN bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32

    River: ($1.10, 2 players) K
    Hero checks, BTN bets $0.62 ?

    Not sure about donking, and maybe to loose OOP but can this be a shove? Was thinking about value from 88-TT but I'm not even sure he flats those IP.

    Will have a few more hands soon no dount.

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