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    Default Carrotz's Sleep Thread

    Overview

    Okay. My biggest leak and problem in life right now is this. I fail epically to get up at reasonable times of the day and to fall alseep at reasonable times at night. I'm forever half heartedly trying to fix this only tosucceed for 2 days then fuck it all upagain by over sleeping or staying up all night. What I need is strcutre, harsh rules with harsh consequences and a place to organise my operation to stop being a nocturnal waster. Hence, I have created this thread to document my progress and also to allow FTR guys to take my monies when I fail to meet my goals.

    Recent History

    About a month ago I went through a weird pahse where I split up with my g/f, and as a result was going out lots, getting fucked up, trying to pull, booty calls etc. During this phase I became almost totally nocturnal. When Ihave a hangover, I can't fucking deal with it so my body just shuts itself in a 13 hour sleep or some shit inorder to survive. So, having these long ass day sleeps constantly for the bestpart of 3 weeks has lead to my body now genuinely thinking, when not hungover or drunk, that it needs to be asleep between 6am and 4pm. It literally invents any excuse it canin the heat of the moment to just bail and go back to sleep no matter how much my awake mind has drummed into it the night before. It's getting to the point now where it's eseriously depressing me. I'm in a rut of night time, it's killing my prodcutivity and leading to a shitty mindset that is making me less social and less ambitious.

    It needs to end now.

    My Plan Of Action

    I got up at 4pm today having slept for about 11 hours.....This is totally unnecessary and rediculous.

    I'm going to go to bed at 6am. I can't physically sleep having been up for less than 14 hours minimum. However, I'm setting my alarm for 11am and getting the fuck up when it goes off.

    I mean ffs 5 hours sleep isn't ideal, but it's certianly not the end of the world and all the consequences will be after the inital horrible sound of ther alarm clock is being a little tired that day.

    The next day I will set my alarm for 9am and get the fuck up, having gone to bed by 1am that night.

    Since my concscious mind is retarded and pulls out what ever twisted logic it can in vorder to convince me to stay in bed, I'm going to be using a rather cool sounding article to programme my subconscious mind to get up as soonas it hears analarm clock. I'll be doing this by simulating sleeo at least once day by turning off the light, getting undressed, lying in bed and setting the alarm for 2 minutes time. If I repeat this often enough the subconscious should take over and not allow time for any debate in the mornings.

    The Good News

    One of you guys each day willhave the chance to win a sum of money. It will be done on a first to reply to this thread gets it basis should I fail.
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    If I do not get on here and post by 11:20am tomorrow, the first person to respond to this thread gets $54. This refers to UK time.

    A high price because if I fail on the first day I may aswell just fucking give up forever.
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    In all seriousness, I have ALMOST the same problems but I'm at least getting to bed by 5 and waking up before 2. I HATE it though.
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    Set a few more alarms than just the one. Hide them around your room, etc. I started uni a few months ago and it's really easy to fall into terrible sleeping patterns.

    GL dude.
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    I know what it's like to have weird sleeping patterns, so I really hope you succeed in altering them.

    GL
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    Good stuff man. Getting on a good sleep schedule can seriously fix so many problems. I've done the nocturnal thing and it sucks balls. Good luck brah n stay angry
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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    About to do practice number 1. Bed time, for 3 minutes. I must admit I feel slightly mentally unstable doing this, but whatever.
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    Get a wife she'll make sure you never sleep in EVER EVER EVER!
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    The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."

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    Oh Carrotfeesh, how many times must you fail at sleeping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13 View Post
    Get a wife she'll make sure you never sleep in EVER EVER EVER!
    Best alarm clock ever. Are you up? You up yet? I said are you awake? *kick*
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    You've done this before no?

    I suggest you find an activity that you can dedicate some morning time to. Make it something that you feel like you'll be letting someone down besides yourself if don't get up. Obv you don't have a 9 to 5 job so maybe go get you one of them.
    “Right thoughts produce right actions and right actions produce work which will be a material reflection for others to see of the serenity at the center of it all”

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    Shuoldn't you be up by now?
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    He lives in UK not Aussie.

    Carrotz doesn't need a 9 to 5er, he needs to enroll in a gym and get a partner to go with that'll push his ass, or just get a trainer. That way you at least have someone to motivate you to get up in the morning + you're doing something awesome for yourself (getting in (better) shape), and if you have a trainer, you're putting money into it as well motivating you further.

    Idk, something to think about, but supa definitely has a good idea.
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    U up yet?
    "You start the game with a full pot o’ luck and an empty pot o’ experience...
    The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."

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    He has exactly 8 minutes :P
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
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    Morning all!
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    lolz had my post al ready to go in the quick reply box. Good job buddy I would have been pissed if you hadn't made it. (time to to back to sleep for me :P)
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
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    I've had 4 hours sleep and feel pretty much fine for the moment. I think sleeping on the outside of my bed really helps, it feels like far less of a trek to the floor that way and more of a movement than an expidition to get up. Got up instantly there when my alarm went off, no battling, no internal strife because I knew I had no option. FML if Ihave to ship kmind 54 bucks on the first morning!

    Today's Plan

    Grind at least 1k hands.
    Go to the bank and cash a check I've been meaning to cash
    Stop running like shit (yesterday was one of those session I got 3 bet every fucking time I opened, 4 bet whenever I 3 bet light etcetc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post
    lolz had my post al ready to go in the quick reply box. Good job buddy I would have been pissed if you hadn't made it. (time to to back to sleep for me :P)
    Lol you got out of bed just to check my progress? <3
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    I will ship $43 to the first guy to respond to this thread if I am not up and posting on here by 9:20am my time.

    It's all ez game from here (I hope)
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    I love you more
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
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    Quote Originally Posted by supahaole View Post
    You've done this before no?

    I suggest you find an activity that you can dedicate some morning time to. Make it something that you feel like you'll be letting someone down besides yourself if don't get up. Obv you don't have a 9 to 5 job so maybe go get you one of them.
    Lol at fucking up my entire life and making myself miserable for the sake of this. The point of this is to make me happier and more successful remember! Dead end 9-5 jobs where I make less than I do as a student/poker player is lol.
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    Yeah a 9-5 job is not +life ev. I don't think it will be hard for you to get back on track to getting your body clock "normal", the question is how do you stay there?
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
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    Yeah staying there is the problem man. Nights out, drinking, hangovers are going to be the main issue. That's not a part of my life I'mwilling to give up though, expecially now that I'm single.Let's face it this country is hugely dependant on alcohol when it comes to meeting people and also having fun.

    I think it's just going to have to be a case of really programing my mind to get the fuck up as soon as I set an alarm. That way my morning self willhave no room to spin it's shitty angles and convince my body to sleep.

    Just had a +7BI session in 500 hands. There were mega mega whales all over the place. One guy just felting any two cards preflop.

    So far so good, and getting up has been ftw today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    Lol at fucking up my entire life and making myself miserable for the sake of this. The point of this is to make me happier and more successful remember! Dead end 9-5 jobs where I make less than I do as a student/poker player is lol.
    The 9-5 thing was a joke ffs. The point was that find something to do in the morning ya facking tard.
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    This OP is a hate free zone and also a working for the man free zone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    This OP is a hate free zone and also a working for the man free zone
    Not hating, much love and respect.
    “Right thoughts produce right actions and right actions produce work which will be a material reflection for others to see of the serenity at the center of it all”

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    Just took 2 BIs off a tard nit spazz reg at 50NL HU. Feeling tired at night. This is actually really nice. Thanks for the support so far guys. Much love.

    See y'all at 9 tomorrow morning for an early morning session. This will be followed by 1 hour coaching followed by sitting in a tea house playing backgammon drinkin' bad ass teas and eating hippy food with a couple of friends.

    Yeah this thread may as well become my ranting space for poker and for IRL shit. Watch dis space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    Just took 2 BIs off a tard nit spazz reg at 50NL HU. Feeling tired at night. This is actually really nice. Thanks for the support so far guys. Much love.

    See y'all at 9 tomorrow morning for an early morning session. This will be followed by 1 hour coaching followed by sitting in a tea house playing backgammon drinkin' bad ass teas and eating hippy food with a couple of friends.

    Yeah this thread may as well become my ranting space for poker and for IRL shit. Watch dis space.

    Sounds like a kick ass day!
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    Oh Hai!
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    Really wasn't fun initially getting up there.

    My body is still pretty confused as to what the fucks going on sleep wise. I got off to sleep by like 12:30am, however, I kept waking up, having vivid dreams, wasn;t ina super deep sleep at all. Woke up at 4:30am and didn't get back to sleep till like 6:30. This I'm sure is just my body being like "wtf it's not night time so that must have just been a nap bra right?"

    When I slept from 6:30 to 9am, it was a deeper sleep and felt fine. Now that I'm upand have had a shower, I feel okay.

    Today should be fun. Tomorrow night I'm going out with my buddy, since he starts a new job next week and Thursday nights are kind of traditional for us to go out, drunk beer, attempt to pull etc. I'm going to go out and then to combat the fear of slipping back into a shitty routine, I'll get up by like 12 or 1pm at the latest and just endure the hangover from there on in.

    Time for a session now.
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    Just pulled the blinds down. Natural light....fuck yeah!
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    9:20am tomorrow morning or $46 to the first person to post in this thread.
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    GL carroters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dneureiter View Post
    GL carroters.
    No cigar friend. The Carrot Manz succeeds again.
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    Going out tonight, so not going to set an early morning alarm. Will be setting one for Saturday morning though for sure.
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    You're the man. I'm going to have to steal some of these waking up early ideas myself. Good work sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    "wtf it's not night time so that must have just been a nap bra right?"
    LMFAO. Keep it up bro!
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    Many thanks for the support thus far guys. I slept for like 12 hours last night, the standard hangover prcedire, likely going to bbe up all night

    However, I'm going to set my alarm for 11am and if I fail to post on here by 11:20am I'll ship $57 to the first person to respond.

    My ex is coming through to pick up stuff tomorrow/possibly hang out, idk. Going to be very strange. Lately it's been out of sight out of mind sorta thing, but now what ever shit I've been subconsciously not dealing with is going to surface. I don't feel terribl;e about seeing her just a little idk nervous maybe, it's strange. I'll update on how tomorrow goes at some point.

    Back to uni on Monday...need to make myself grind a bunch aswell as study. It's going to be a busy 6 months that will hopefully be rewarded with travelling including Vegas and meeting with some FTR friends this summer!
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    isn't it great waking up when the sun is still out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro View Post
    isn't it great waking up when the sun is still out?
    Hell yes.
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    Oh Hai!
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    Sigh...so much for just picking up her stuff....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    Sigh...so much for just picking up her stuff....

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    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaselT View Post
    Yeah great article, this was the article that inspired this thread, I was too lazy to link it!
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    He has an article on polyphasic sleep cycles too. He did it for over 4 months! :O I'd be super interested in trying it if I was a professional poker player, 20 hours a day to work/grind while feeling like you're getting 8+ hours of sleep a night?! Sign me up plz
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    Yeah sounds lol interesting. The only problem is you'd have to have no fucking life at all outside grinding and staying in your house.
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    Why? You're up for 3.5 hours, then you take a 20-30 minute nap. He said he could push the limits of his nap to 6-7 hours, but after that he felt like he was crashing. Caffeine helps disrupt the cycle so if you need to miss a nap for an 8+ hour period, just have a cup of coffee and its good to go, the only downside to that is you have to take a longer nap later, but since everyone else in the world is sleeping then anyways, its not so bad. Not saying you should do it obv, just think its pretty cool and something I might try some day.
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    Yeah prolly also going to try it some day. Hopefully when I'm a balla and just sit eating lobster and grinding balla NLz.
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    Cool OP, I tend to go through a non-stop cycle of going to bed later and later and later until I'm sleeping during the day and up at night and have to pull an all-nighter/dayer in order to see any kind of sunlight. There's nothing worse than that feeling of having nothing to do at 5AM and you feel like you should be tired but you're not.

    So...good to see someone is successfully combating this problem!

    Good luck keeping this up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravageur View Post
    Cool OP, I tend to go through a non-stop cycle of going to bed later and later and later until I'm sleeping during the day and up at night and have to pull an all-nighter/dayer in order to see any kind of sunlight. There's nothing worse than that feeling of having nothing to do at 5AM and you feel like you should be tired but you're not.

    So...good to see someone is successfully combating this problem!

    Good luck keeping this up!
    Thanks dude.

    So a little update. Haven't played much poker over the past few days due to social stuff etc etc etc.

    Ex came through and things were just like we were still going out but without the shitness and with a whole lot more of the goodness thatmade me ever like her in the first place 3 years ago. I have no idea what's going to happen. I don't want to force anything or get back into a slump of ma shitty relationship. Going to see her again prolly because yeah it was really good, if things can continue to be great and we can be as we were this weekend then I'm defo not opposed to something longer term. It's weird though a lot has changed and yeah we have totally separate goals, lives, plans for the next year. Decided any srot of relationshipwould have to be purely based on us having a greta time togetehr and not manufactured on a long term plan because fuck that. So yeah that's all the emo I have to blog about tonight.

    I'm also not adverse to other girls for the time being and will keep my eyes peeled etc etc, but whatever a lot of people are total morons. My ex isn't a moron, she's just a cunt sometimes. It's really rare for me to meet people I don't consider total morons so I guess that's something to think about.

    Back to uni tomorrow, ugh, well in 5 hours time actually. Should have a coupke of fairly easy going classes followed by some poker. Also need to grab a new headset while I'm out since mine has totally fucked up I have piles of students I still owe sessions to.

    Going to really force myself to put in volume this week. Peace for now.

    Oh....If I don't post on here by 9:20am I'll ship $46 to the next person to post on this thread.

    I can't see myself sleeping in for the introductory classes, first day of the busy routine of poker and university that I'm going to have to pwn to make this year a success, but hey better to be safe than sorry nam sayin'

    Down with laziness. 2011 is all about productivity!
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    Yay for getting first post roid.

    Boo for me being up with 3 mins to spare.

    I've had like 2 hours sleep, FML.
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    Just on the off chance I attempt to be a dbag and sleep through class tomorrow. Next poster gets $64 if I do.

    9:30am on here or monies shipped.
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    1st.
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    since he's a banned member of FTR, i guess that means im 1st
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    hahaha how I do love to have an escape clause.
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    Hai Gais

    So I've had like 2 hours sleep or something rediculous. My plan is as follows.

    Go to Greek class (10am)
    Instead of going to the first logic lecture at 12pm, come home and nap.
    I've done logic before tc and this is going to be a tedious overview I'll gain nothing from so recharging batteries is more important.
    Get up at 1pm and go to Italian
    Come back and do homework etc till like 5:30pm
    Have Dinner
    6:30pm - Grind
    9pm - coach
    10pm - Grind more of not too tired
    12am: Sleep
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    Can i get monies when you fail at this?

    Good luck though.
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    good morning
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    So I slept in a bit and missed Italian class...oh well. I achieved everything else on the list so not too concerned. I'll go over the shit I missed when I get a spare hour tomorrow morning.

    Tomorrow's plan:

    9am: Get up
    10am: Greek Class
    11am: Go over Italian stuff in spare hour
    12pm: Philosophy lecture
    1pm: Lunch
    2pm: Italian Class
    3pm: Homework
    5pm: Meet ex g/f and hang out with her. Why the fuck not....

    $51 to the next person to respond if I don't post on here by 9:30am.

    Feel like I'm getting a bit of a cold or something. I have a tendency to sleep the fuck in when I have a bit of a cold. Gotta ensure that doesn't happen.

    Goodnight, bed calls me.
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    ship the dollars
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    hahaha.

    K I'm up. Throat kinda hurts so not feeling great about life. Time for some Coco Pops Wheelz and some coffee.
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    9:30am for tomorrow, next dude to post gets $65 if I fail.

    Fuller update to come when I don't have 70 hours of Greek to translate.
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    PEANUT BUTTA JELLY TIME
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    Unlucky CrowBat....foiohoiueherihgre I can't fucking find anything this morning FML.
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    I have Aqua - Barbie Girl in my head, why? I also just had a dream I woke up with horrible scabs all over me, and looked in the mirror and was like "yeah shit I have rhino skin syndrome, well no biggy I'll just go back to bed and sleep it off" But no I woke up for reals and had no such syndrome and no such excuse to not get up

    I blame this paper I buy for uni. It has a picture of a rhino on the front and says "save the rhinos" as if buying the stuff actually saves any anywhere.
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    Lol don't worry sir. I had a dream last night I was the son of the devil so don't worry. Rhino skin >>>> than waking up in a dark bedroom freaking out that I had red hair and shit.

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