Confessions of a losing poker player

Alright so I know this is only my second post but I reckon i'm at a turning point and am gonna try to get my shit together so why not start a operation.

So about a year and a half ago I deposited 50 bucks into party and now have about 25 bucks left. Been just short of 500 soooooooo many times but I always go on tilt, play drunk etc blah blah same old shit. Biggest thing i'm doing about it is i'm gonna start posting and trying to actively get better. Also I just got a neteller account and once i clear up some bank shit (hopefully tomorrow) I'm gonna clear some bonuses with my shiny new $500 BR I'm thinking i'll get an account with stars to start with cuz i don't have any reload bonuses on party at the moment and want something easy to clear first.

Latter when i can be bothered i'll post a long list of my (known) leaks so that I can look back on this when i'm crushing 50nl on 10+ tables and say what a douche.

Oh yeah if in six months my bankroll is less then $500 or i'm not satisfied with my progress i'll quit poker.
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Why don't you take those 25 dollars and grind your way up to 500 dollars in penny stakes?

Originally Posted by iopq

Why don't you take those 25 dollars and grind your way up to 500 dollars in penny stakes?

best way - then you know you're beating the levels as you go.

pig vomit -- did you ever post on OJ? I knew a guy over there by that name. Maybe it's more common than I thought.

Ok so my bank shit still isn't sorted (fuck i hate banks) which is probably a good thing because i'm too stressed to play due to work and other bank crap.

Why don't you take those 25 dollars and grind your way up to 500 dollars in penny stakes?

Because i'm an idiot and that is far to sensible. I dunno alot of reason that 25 dollars I got from party points and was busto a couple days ago when i decided to do this. I just feel I need a fresh start and want to signify taking the next step. Also i'm thinking playing for bonuses instead putting all my focus on my swinging BR might help my play.

pig vomit -- did you ever post on OJ? I knew a guy over there by that name. Maybe it's more common than I thought.

Never posted anywhere ever. (well maybe once or twice here under a different name over a year ago lol)

So yeah plan is still hit stars play 10nl take shots at 25nl depending on success. Also thinking of buying 'Hold'em Manager' never really used a HUD but would be good to replay big hands.

i highly recommend pwning the penny tables and working your way up from the bottom. Very seldom does anyone have success without paying their dues first.

If you want to build your bankroll by bonus whoring, great! just don't think that since you have $500 in your account all of a sudden that now you're ready for 25NL. Whenever I clear a bonus, I withdrawal the $ and put it aside.

Alright so a list of leaks in no particular order and how i plan to fix them.

1. Playing drunk. Quite probably my biggest leak I can destroy months of work in one Blury night in front of the computer screen.
Poker or booze one vice only

2. Tilt. I tilts bad.
Two BI stop limit for every session.

3. Heads up SNGs. They're like crack and require a lota focus that I don't have.
No HU for a long time

4. Not paying attention. I very rarely don't have other windows up doing other shit and basically just play my hole cards.
Focus (duh!) maybe shorter sessions?

5. Not putting people on hands. This ties in with #4.
Only play 4 tables for now and actively try and put people on a range.

6. Not looking for tells, reads or betting patters. I'd like to start using a hud to do this but realistically if I'm gonna get any good I need to be able to do this. Probably ties in with not being focused.
Try to keep track of the more active players at the table.

Thats it for now i know their is ALOT more but they either stem from these or their specific spots i hope to figure out by posting hands. Hopefully writing them down is the first step in overcoming them.

start with $200 on stars, play $5nl until you reach $250, move up to 10nl and finish clearing the $50 first deposit bonus - then start looking around/thinking about other bonuses. Where are you based?

I started $200 last year, pulled out $5k recently and still have a bunch online. It can be done.

Thats for all the good advice guys. I agree I may not be ready for 25nl. New plan is use the extra monies as an extra br cushion which I need and let me clear bonuses. Any how I didn't get the full 500 cuz of bank bull shit (did i mention i hate banks) and exchange rates (i'm in australia) so I got 400 instead putting my current br at 435.

In other news I've started playing only 4 tables tiled which i've realised is alot better for me right now.

Anyone want to refer me to stars? I still get the bonus and they don't offer rakeback right?

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

Anyone want to refer me to stars? I still get the bonus and they don't offer rakeback right?

no stars account for me, and you're right - they don't offer rakeback.

You should download HEM and use the free trial, I think you get 5000 hands - which should last a while if you're 4-tabling! You'll figure out for yourself if it's worth buying after that - you can probably get it for free though. A few of the little poker sites you won't ever want to play on much have HEM as a sign-up bonus. Sign-up, clear HEM, pull your money out and never play there again. I haven't done this myself, but I'm pretty sure it's possible.

where in oz? i'm in wellington, nz.

You should download HEM and use the free trial, I think you get 5000 hands

Yeah I'll definetly do this i've been useing the free trial of poker tracker and not really digging it as much as i thought i would. Is their a good sticky about interpreting hud stats it all means jibberish to me? I'm in melbourne.

Just played a really short session and realised i'm having alot of trouble paying attention and trying to put people on hands. I think i've played so much shitty passive poker that it's just become habbbit to tune out when i play. I'm toying with the idea of playing a single table for a while and just focusing on trying to put people on a range.

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

Is their a good sticky about interpreting hud stats it all means jibberish to me? I'm in melbourne.

Just played a really short session and realised i'm having alot of trouble paying attention and trying to put people on hands.

First up, you put people on ranges rather than hands. It's almost impossible to put players on a specific hands - instead you speculate on their likely holdings based on pre-flop play (=pre-flop range), and then narrow this down based on post-flop play and behaviour.

It will start to make sense after you;ve played with a hud for a while.
I wrote something about how to arrive at an understanding of what preflop stats may mean with respect to ranges just a few days ago - in my post at the bottom of this thread:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ds-t75548.html

I'm not sure if there are any good articles on interpreting these stats - as long as you know what they mean you should go ok. PT2/3 are both good, I abandoned PT3 cos I was getting a whole lot of system instability - it doesn't cope well with heavy multi-tabling... but the HUD content and form are both fine.

melbourne.. i haven't got to victoria yet - too much time up northeast..

also, for some insights on ranges - go search the beginners forum for threads called "Hand reading..." Robb posted a few of these, here's one:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...hand%20reading

Only play 2 tables! to start. Make sure you can put people on hands on each table before you add anyothers. This has to be one of the biggest ways to make $$ and save $$. Knowing what your opponent has.

Thanks for all the great input guys. Daven I especially liked your first link. I've put $50 on stars so i'm gonna start slooooooowly clearing that while I practice putting people on ranges. I left the rest on teller incase party offers a reload bonus. Also gonna try out HEM.

Finally got hem working (had some problems installing) and still getting used to stars. Been playing too many tables again but i'll stop and start practicing useing the hud.

Br $470 so i'm up 45 woot

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

Finally got hem working (had some problems installing) and still getting used to stars. Been playing too many tables again but i'll stop and start practicing useing the hud.

Br $470 so i'm up 45 woot

nice work. Keep winning and get that bonus cleared!

I've had a semi productive weekend. Been on a bit of a heater (my bb/100 is like 60 lol) and so i'm up a few BI. Kinda lost sight of my plan to just focus on putting people on a range but i'll start again tomorrow after work. Also I bought a new car

BR $508
Percentage of bonus cleared 34/500

WARNIG!!! BAB BEAT WHINING AHEAD...

Okay nothing like a downswing to put things back in perspective. Been playing stupid again playing to many tables, not paying attention and generally being stupid. Last night I lost a couple BI in a couple of minutes. At least I didn't keep playing (the old me would have) so...

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($6.95)
BB ($7.21)
UTG ($3.65)
UTG+1 ($9.92)
MP1 ($2.38)
MP2 ($2)
Hero (CO) ($11.33)
Button ($9.91)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises $0.25, 3 folds, UTG+1 raises $0.60, Hero raises $1.25, UTG+1 raises $9.27 (All-In), Hero calls $8.42

Flop: ($19.91) 3, 7, 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($19.91) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($19.91) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $19.91

Results in white below:
UTG+1 had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Hero didn't show K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $18.96

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (UTG) ($9.98)
UTG+1 ($7.40)
MP1 ($8.46)
MP2 ($6.77)
CO ($3.10)
Button ($6.55)
SB ($9.21)
BB ($16.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, K
Hero raises $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20, 6 folds

Flop: ($0.47) J, 5, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.27) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, UTG+1 raises $6.80 (All-In), Hero calls $5.60

River: ($14.87) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.87

Results in white below:
Hero had Q, K (straight, King high).
UTG+1 had 10, 10 (full house, tens over nines).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $14.17

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

MP1 ($11.35)
MP2 ($2.98)
MP3 ($5.88)
CO ($19.45)
Button ($2.36)
SB ($2.81)
BB ($10.09)
Hero (UTG) ($9.26)
UTG+1 ($8.37)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, J
Hero raises $0.20, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.20, 6 folds

Flop: ($0.47) 2, A, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.45, MP1 calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.37) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, MP1 calls $1.20

River: ($3.77) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP1 calls $3

Total pot: $9.77

Results in white below:
Hero had A, J (one pair, Aces).
MP1 had A, K (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: MP1 won $9.32

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($6.53)
UTG+1 ($7.15)
MP1 ($6)
MP2 ($9.84)
MP3 ($2.92)
Hero (CO) ($11.58)
Button ($11.17)
SB ($1.55)
BB ($2.68)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
2 folds, MP1 (poster) checks, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.05, Hero raises $0.30, 4 folds, MP3 raises $0.50, Hero raises $0.95, MP3 calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.62) 10, 8, 3 (2 players)
MP3 bets $1.67 (All-In), Hero calls $1.67

Turn: ($5.96) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($5.96) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $5.96

Results in white below:
MP3 had 10, K (three of a kind, tens).
Hero didn't show K, K (two pair, Kings and tens).
Outcome: MP3 won $5.71

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

MP2 ($2.30)
CO ($7.78)
Hero (Button) ($9.81)
SB ($2.84)
BB ($7.77)
UTG ($11.32)
UTG+1 ($6.56)
MP1 ($10.11)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises $0.30, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.97) A, 7, 4 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.30, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.57) A (2 players)
MP2 bets $0.70 (All-In), Hero calls $0.70

River: ($4.97) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.97

Results in white below:
Hero didn't show J, A (three of a kind, Aces).
MP2 had 2, A (full house, Aces over twos).
Outcome: MP2 won $4.77

What do you guys think? Any of these not bad beats? Thoughts, opinions and insults all welcomed.

Only glanced but they all look fine.

After a run like that I'd be steaming, and I hope that i would have the discipline to stop. I'm impressed that you stopped - illustrates (as if we needed further illustration!) the importance of sound bankroll management.

hand 1 is standard, but a cooler not a badbeat.
hand 2 you got your money in ahead, nice.
hand 3 you could maybe bet the river a little lighter, but the hand is fine - although folding AJo from UTG is also an option. Again, not technically a badbeat.
hand 4 again you got your money in ahead. Preflop you should have 4-bet a little harder, to $1.20 is good given stack sizes.
hand 5 very nice.

hand 3 is a clear fold preflop imo, precisely to avoid situations like the one you put yourself in.

Man i suck.

Fuck poker i'm going to bed.

hand 3 is a clear fold preflop imo, precisely to avoid situations like the one you put yourself in.

no more raising AJ utg. Done.

After a run like that I'd be steaming, and I hope that i would have the discipline to stop. I'm impressed that you stopped - illustrates (as if we needed further illustration!) the importance of sound Bankroll Management.

Considering the old me would get drunk and chase loses at HU SNGs i'm prettty proud of this.

Okay so from the last post you can probably guess that my last session went similar to the one before it. Was going to post hands but the Hand Converter isn't working for some reason.

Don't think i'll play tonight. Too tired from work and still tilted.

Had a good session last night and no longer tilted (for now).

BR $504

Party has offered me a 100% bonus up to $500 So I just cashed out of stars (i'm only 64/500 to clearing the bonus but I figure I got ages) and i'm moving back to party. Problem is how long the cash out is taking. I got $50 back immediately but I have to wait 70 odd hours for them to process the rest. I don't want deposit less than the full $500 on party so i'm stuck.

I gots $440 currently in neteller ready to go. do I just deposit that or go crazy waiting for stars to process cash out? It sucks because I was really keen to grind today too

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

I don't want deposit less than the full $500 on party so i'm stuck.

A word of warning/advice. Party bonus offers are often not as good as they first appear.

I recommend that you check the clearing conditions on this bonus. It appears to be released in $100 increments, you have 10 days to clear it, and you have to accrue 800 party points for each $100.

You get 2 points for every 20 raked hands played at 25nl, say 7/10 hands are raked, that means 2 points for every 30 hands. That means you'll be getting $100 for every 12k hands... I'm not convinced that it's worth it. Anyway, to clear the whole $500 you'll have to play a lot of hands.

God damn it Daven why do you have to be so freaken right?

Had a look at the terms. I got some multipliers with party but it's still unrealistic. Probably should have looked at this first... Thanks for stoping me from making a dumb mistake.

I was really happy bout this too

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

God damn it Daven why do you have to be so freaken right?

I was really happy bout this too

i deposited the $500, cos the terms in my bonus offers said 2x points, but then it showed up as 8x once deposited. Lucky I had a screen shot of the original offer. Now I'm fighting it out with party poker support...

extract follows:

Originally Posted by daven having a tanty!

Hi.
In response to your e-mail.
No, I do not understand. I do not understand that 2x and 8x are the same.
Your explanation is unclear. I have a degree in mathematics, I'm not stupid. Please try to explain again.
2x points = 2x 500 = 1000 points to clear the entire bonus.
200 points for every $100.

I quote:

"If the player deposits $500, they will get back 5 lots of $100. They
must wager a total of 8 x 500 PartyPoints (1.6 x 5 slabs) = 4000
PartyPoints. The release requirements for each slab are therefore 4000
divided by 5 = 800 PartyPoints per slab, i.e. for each $100."

this makes absolutely no sense. You stated (see the attachment that I included earlier) that the clear rate was 2xpoints. There was no indication that it was 2 (or 1.6) x 5 x points. Heck, you could have arbitrarily made it 2 (or 1.6) x 5000 x points, or any other value.

Please pass this on to your manager, I am very concerned at what appears to be an attempt to deceive. In the meantime, my funds are sitting in my party poker account, where you are accruing interest on the account balance. Although this is minor, I'm sure it adds up over a wide number of players.

If this is not cleared up, I will not be playing on party poker again. As I am sure you already know, online poker is a competitive market and there are a number of reputable companies that do not resort to deceit to earn their profit.

Regards,

Those deceitful bastards! My bonus was 2x as well which in addition to my multipliers made me think it was doable. Your post reminded me that not every hand is raked . Plus party's got a weird system for their points now.

Don't take any guff from those swine man good luck getting your monies. Do you really have a degree in mathematics?

thanks again for the warning.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($9.95)
Hero (BB) ($39.45)
UTG ($17.95)
MP1 ($6.75)
MP2 ($19.90)
CO ($12.15)
Button ($1.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J
3 folds, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB calls $0.05, Hero raises $0.40, CO calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.10) 5, 7, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $38.95 (All-In), CO calls $11.65 (All-In)

Turn: ($24.40) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($24.40) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $24.40

Results in white below:
Hero had A, J (high card, Ace).
CO had 5, 5 (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: CO won $23.20


no more typing my bets out, one missed decimal point...

I'd be pissed if it wasn't kinda funny. Imagine what that guy must be thinking lol.

Finally cleared the stars bonus (woot) also my HEM trial ran out so i thought fuck it and bought the damned thing. I still dont use the HUD stats as much as i should but getting better at understanding the values.

Made just about no progress whatsoever in my game. Playing to many tables and only paying attention to my own cards. I have managed to not play when tilted (mostly) so i guess thats an improvement.

Anywho here's some HEM stats. I hope this works I suck at posting...


Any thoughts or opions on these would be awsome.


I'm a sucker for a sexy graph.




So my BR took a hit when i bought HEM but still healthy just short of $600. Any thoughts on what bonuses to clear next? Something quick to clear would be good.

Current plan is move to 25nl when BR hits $750 (i'm lovin haven a deep BR)

your vpip/pfr stats look gold, good enough to crush for a while yet - depending on your postflop.. Maybe c-bet a tiny bit less.
Post your steal stats, and position stats
nh - I'll hunt out some light reading for ya tomorrow

Position and steal stats are...



played my first 1.5k hands on full tilt tonight for -$7.

Not really a fan of the software but i guess I better get used to it. Some of my problems with full tilt are...

1) No freaking filter for the games on the lobby. If I join another pot limit or 50nl game i'm gonna kill someone.

2) Soooo many short stakes. Most of my game is implied odds for sets now i'm fucked.

3) Hardly any games for 10nl. Maybe i'm playing at a bad traffic time but yeah this sucks.

4) Tables not popping up when it's my turn to act. Some times they do often they dont.

Maybe i'm just tilted but i'm not really liking full tilt. Gonna be here a while so just gonna have to grin and bear it. Thought about takeing a shot at 25nl playing 19hands on like 20+ tables till this thing clears but I think i'll go crazy and tilt.

hope these comments help - I'd suggest hit the bonus then run though if you don't like the interface! Kinda funny - it's the best interface of the sites I've played to date!!!!

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

1) No freaking filter for the games on the lobby. If I join another pot limit or 50nl game i'm gonna kill someone. sort by stakes

2) Soooo many short stakes. Most of my game is implied odds for sets now i'm fucked. play deep tables, if they aren't running then open them

3) Hardly any games for 10nl. Maybe i'm playing at a bad traffic time but yeah this sucks. wait lists?

4) Tables not popping up when it's my turn to act. Some times they do often they dont. yeah, this must be shit. I've never played a site where this works, so I'm used to it. I deal with it by playing tiled...
.

Gotten sorta used to FT software and hating it alot less (table filter still sucks balls but i do like the bet pot button). Any who took a shot a 25nl ran good and got BR to where i wanted it to be for 25nl anyways. Not many shortstacks at 25nl but i sill wish their were more tables to choose from and I dont really like starting em because I dont want to play short handed.

Things to do...

1) Reviewing sessions. Can't rember that last time i did this which can't be good.

2) Post hands

3) Put people on ranges.

4) Work on C beting. Start c betting for a reason instead of firing off random shots like i do now. I feel like i'm slowly losing chips instead of gaining them.

hey pig vomit i looked at your stats and while your att. to steal looks ok your button stats as a whole are still really nitty wwhich would suggest that you aren't isolating limpers enough.

hey pig vomit i looked at your stats and while your att. to steal looks ok your button stats as a whole are still really nitty wwhich would suggest that you aren't isolating limpers enough.

Yeah this is something i've been thinking of. I like my VPIP% but i'm not happy with my early position and late position stats. I'm thinking of cutting out alot of the junk I raise with in early position such as KQ+ as well as the crappy pocket pairs i limp with and really opening up my aggression and range in the cutoff and button. Would it be bad if my VPIP% and PFR% were basically identical? Cuz if i do what i'm thinking of doing i'll only really be calling raises with pocket pairs and either raising or folding everything else. Does calling a raise affect PFR% like does PFR% go down if I call a 3 bet? I hope this makes sense.

A quick summary of my expearince so far at 25nl...

played good - won monies - got cocky- played bad - lost monies

meh

When you play like a fucking idiot you suffer the consciousness...

back to 10nl

BR $582

I wanna throw up.

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

hey pig vomit i looked at your stats and while your att. to steal looks ok your button stats as a whole are still really nitty wwhich would suggest that you aren't isolating limpers enough.

Yeah this is something i've been thinking of. I like my VPIP% but i'm not happy with my early position and late position stats. I'm thinking of cutting out alot of the junk I raise with in early position such as KQ+ as well as the crappy pocket pairs i limp with and really opening up my aggression and range in the cutoff and button. Would it be bad if my VPIP% and PFR% were basically identical? Cuz if i do what i'm thinking of doing i'll only really be calling raises with pocket pairs and either raising or folding everything else. Does calling a raise affect PFR% like does PFR% go down if I call a 3 bet? I hope this makes sense.

Well yes, I would stop raising KQ utg as well as AJ if you raise that. I would say that at 10nl you can still l/c your small PPs from ep and get paid a lot, but at 25nl I would start to open raise because players there can handread slightly better and you're going to get less big multiway pots. I think it would be bad if you pfr and vpip were the same because if you never called pre then you would be 3bet/folding PPs which is pretty bad and also there are a lot of times on the button that you can just call a LP raise with a decent range. 13/10 is actually quite solid and I know a few good 200nl regs with similar stats so don't try and change too much.

Your pfr doesn't go down if you call a 3bet if you were the original raiser it counts as the raise. If you were not the raiser your vpip goes up and your pfr stays the same.

For whatever reason i've regressed back into old habbits. I can't play for more then five minutes before turning into an idiot at the table. I will not be playing for the next couple of days so i can drink and feel sorry for my crappy playing self.

cheers...

Okay so it's a new month and a figure i might reflect on the month i've had and set some new goals.

When i started this thread my main goal was to get into the habit of putting people on ranges which i still have not done. Another was to start referring to HUD stats before making a decision which also I have yet to do. These remain my major objectives as well as a few others i've thought of recently such as c-betting and improving general post flop game (my post flop game fucking stinks). Also after a recent visit to tilt town enforcing my 2 BI stop loss limit.

Any who heres September...

can you guess where i tilted?

I'm pretty disappointed with this. I feel i started out well but after moving to full tilt and 25nl my play a discipline turned to shit. It's probably what i need though as my game is nowhere near ready for 50nl and had i continued to run hot i probably would have neglected to improve.

Any way goals are to pump out a sexy winrate for 25nl, develop skills for 50nl and build the bank roll for 50nl.

-8 BIs in the last two days, -5 BIs so far for this month...

meh i'm gonna go drink now.

Weeeeee i'm drunk anf it's time to face facts...

I am a loseing 25nl player. I've played 16579 hands of 25nl for -1.24 bb/100. Because i ran good at 10nl i've been putting the blame on varince but it's time to face facts. I've got some serious leaks to address and i've got no idea where to start. I've been told my preflop stats are fairly solid so my thinking is that my problems are post flop. I've for the most part stopped my c-bet spewage and yet continue to consistenly lose. I've tried tightening my range in early postion and opening up on the button but i feel like i'm just spewing.

My current opinion is that i'm playing badly in larger pots. At 10nl their was value in calling the river shove with top pair and kicker. At 25nl villians range is alot tighter and value/reason why i called at 10nl no longer has merit. I'm finding 25nl to be somewhere inbetween being so loose i can vale bet my nuts off and so tight i can make a steady profit through stealing blinds and exploiting postion.

It is early in the month and it is possible that i've been running bad and i can turn this around and crush.

I'm feeling like half the players at any given table know my hands value. My weaker hands are called or raised and everyone insta folds to my stronger hands.

As someone with assperations of one day playing 100nl and 200nl this is fucking pathetic to not beat 25nl for this many hands. This seems like as good a reason as any to really hunker down and work on my game. Problem is i dont really know how. I need to start postiong hands obviously but other then that i dont really know where to start. I know my game is flawed but i'm too stupid to know where...

Any who hopefully i'll run really hot next week and that way i'll be able to put off improving for even longer weeeeeeee.

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

I've been told my preflop stats are fairly solid so my thinking is that my problems are post flop. I

two suggestions if you're running HEM:
1) Filter on pots at 25nl where you called a bet >40bb. Think about what this telling you.
2) When you get to the river with an ok hand - e.g. 8T on 8TAQ3 rainbow board, consider check-calling instead of bet-folding. Reason? If you bet, then you gotta fold to the re-raise and this costs you the same as check-calling but you don't get a showdown. And another reason - a lot of people who would be folding to a bet will be bluffing when checked to. Passive lines are good sometimes...

Still playing like shit. Throwing money away at HU sngs and 6 max (i suck at 6 max) and generally being an idiot.

meh.

Fuck i hate poker...

So far this month i've played 6500 hands for -6BIs. I seem to be swinging all over the place at 25nl. Obviously i'm doing something or many things wrong. I'm currently trying to conpare my stats from when i was at stars 10nl (and ran goot) to now at full tilt 25nl (where i run/play shit). I'm not having much luck though.

Took a few days off from poker to detilt. Feeling better gonna play a session, gonna play good.

WTF!!!!?????

I know i suck but this is getting fucking ridiculus...

In an effort to make myself accountable for my play and to encourage myself to review sessions (I never review sessions) i'm gonna start posting my big losing pots. Expect badbeats and really stupid tilted play Thoughts and opinions always welcome but this is mostly an exercise for myself.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($26.25)
Hero (BB) ($29.65)
UTG ($24.75)
UTG+1 ($28.45)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($25.80)
MP3 ($30.10)
CO ($18.55)
Button ($25.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises $0.85, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) A, 6, Q (2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP3 calls $2

Turn: ($6.55) K (2 players)
Hero bets $6, MP3 raises $27 (All-In), Hero calls $20.55 (All-In)

River: ($59.65) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $59.65

Results in white below:
Hero had Q, A (two pair, Aces and Queens).
MP3 had K, J (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP3 won $57.15

Yeah I dont know what to say about this... Thought he was drawing... Just lost a stack before and should'nt have been playing

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($17.95)
BB ($25.25)
UTG ($22.30)
Hero (UTG+1) ($37.20)
MP1 ($38.10)
MP2 ($25)
MP3 ($20.35)
CO ($48.90)
Button ($39.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7, 7
1 fold, Hero raises $0.85, 1 fold, MP2 raises $3.25, 1 fold, CO calls $3.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.40

Flop: ($10.10) 7, J, Q (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $6.25, CO calls $6.25, Hero raises $22, MP2 calls $15.50 (All-In), 1 fold

Turn: ($59.85) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($59.85) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $59.85

Results in white below:
Hero had 7, 7 (three of a kind, sevens).
MP2 had Q, Q (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: MP2 won $56.90

Preflop is stupid and i shoulda folded.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($29.90)
Button ($12.35)
SB ($83.55)
BB ($49.45)
Hero (UTG) ($44.55)
UTG+1 ($55.20)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($33)
MP3 ($56.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero raises $0.85, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.85, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.80) 8, 4, J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.80, 1 fold, SB raises $8, Hero raises $10.40, SB raises $34.40, Hero raises $30.50 (All-In), SB calls $1.30

Turn: ($90.20) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($90.20) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $90.20

Results in white below:
SB had 4, 4 (three of a kind, fours).
Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: SB won $87.20

Don't know how i feel about this one. Sucks that it was deep.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($16.15)
Hero (MP3) ($25)
CO ($25.80)
Button ($34.65)
SB ($7.20)
BB ($25.10)
UTG ($29.10)
UTG+1 ($36.95)
MP1 ($26.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 5, 5
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 3 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($0.85) 7, K, 5 (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets $0.25, Hero raises $1, 1 fold, MP1 raises $4.25, Hero raises $8, MP1 raises $22.15 (All-In), Hero calls $15.75 (All-In)

Turn: ($50.35) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($50.35) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $50.35

Results in white below:
MP1 had 7, 7 (three of a kind, sevens).
Hero had 5, 5 (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: MP1 won $49.75

meh standard.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($33.05)
MP2 ($9.30)
MP3 ($5)
Hero (CO) ($25)
Button ($21.55)
SB ($25.10)
BB ($5)
UTG+1 ($36.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q
UTG+1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises $1.10, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 10, 9, A (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.55, UTG+1 calls $2.55

Turn: ($7.65) 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $5, UTG+1 calls $5

River: ($17.65) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $17.65

Results in white below:
UTG+1 had A, K (one pair, Aces).
Hero had A, Q (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $16.80



No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($27.45)
SB ($15.10)
BB ($17.60)
UTG ($35.20)
UTG+1 ($25.90)
MP1 ($21.15)
MP2 ($9.65)
MP3 ($48.95)
Hero (CO) ($26.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, A
5 folds, Hero raises $0.85, Button calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.40) J, Q, J (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3.40, 1 fold, SB raises $14.25 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $10.85

Turn: ($31.90) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($31.90) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $31.90

Results in white below:
SB had 8, J (three of a kind, Jacks).
Hero had Q, A (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
Outcome: SB won $30.35

lol i don't even remember this one. Like i said i'm an idiot.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($25)
CO ($25.60)
Hero (Button) ($25.50)
SB ($14.75)
BB ($54.55)
UTG ($23.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 10
3 folds, Hero raises $0.85, 1 fold, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) K, 3, 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.80, BB calls $1.80

Turn: ($5.40) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3

River: ($11.40) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $11.40

Results in white below:
Hero had K, 10 (two pair, Kings and threes).
BB had Q, 3 (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: BB won $10.85

thoughts? trying to open up a bit on the button but i suspect i dont have the postflop skills to deal with it.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($25)
MP ($49.20)
Hero (CO) ($30.20)
Button ($50.35)
SB ($28.25)
BB ($44.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, K
2 folds, Hero raises $0.85, Button raises $2.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.05

Flop: ($6.15) 9, J, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button calls $4

Turn: ($14.15) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($34.15) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero folds

Total pot: $34.15

Results in white below:
Button didn't show
Outcome: Button won $44.45

I hate draws. Stupid turn call.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($79.70)
UTG ($26)
MP ($34)
CO ($28.35)
Button ($25.60)
SB ($49.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.25) 8, 3, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.25, Hero raises $4.50, MP calls $2.25

Turn: ($11.25) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP calls $8

River: ($27.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $20.50 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $27.25

meh

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($26.95)
Hero (MP2) ($26.05)
MP3 ($32.50)
CO ($80)
Button ($30.10)
SB ($25)
BB ($19.20)
UTG ($48.20)
UTG+1 ($34.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises $1.10, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 10, 8, 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.55, UTG raises $7.25, Hero raises $11.45, UTG raises $13.50, Hero raises $10.95 (All-In), UTG calls $4.20

Turn: ($52.45) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($52.45) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $52.45

Very dumb...

Enough for tonight this is just the tip of the iceberg.
So i'm in a crappy spot right now (to think i was shooting for 50nl by the end of the year). I'm still rolled for 25nl but obviously i'm a losing player. Defs gonna move down for a couple thousand hands get some confidence back but i dont really see the point. I feel i pwn 10nl and so when i play i wont really be working on the skill set i need for 25nl. Thats probs a stupid excuses but whatever. Good new though i'm finding myself thinking more and more about ranges.

This is a hard post to make.

October sucked or more precisely i sucked during October. Heres the graph.


If only it was upside down lol.



So i guess the plan is back to 10nl gonna play uber tight and lay down top pair when i know it's no good and hopefully i'll get my shit together and be back at 25nl. It's kinda funny when i was playing i thought i was playing good but looking back i now see how shitty i really was playing.

BR: 421

meh.

I think your analysis is a little flawed. Why do you feel x move was stupid? What caused you to make x move? If you river your outs, do you post the HH?

You'll agree that something is fundementally wrong with your approach to the game, so what are you doing to identify and fix it? And the leaks aren't "I should fold AA vrs check-raises" or "I should fold overs + fd for 10 in a 15 pot"

Ok so I obviously fail at posting.

My intention when I started this operation was to quit poker in six months if I wasn’t happy with my progress which I’m not so yeah I guess I fail that too…

I’ve moved back to stars after getting owned at 25nl on full tilt. My current BR is at $400 again after a high of $900 and a low of $200. I’m gonna win 10 BI at 10nl and take another shot at 25nl. I plan on doing well and feel I’ve refound my groove but I guess we’ll see.

My approach to the game has changed completely and i'm really feeling i'm on the right track after learning the stupid way.

Ok so it’s been a good day.

Played 2600 hands for a little under $50. I’m planning on putting in a bunch of hands tomorrow and maybe crack $500.

I quit my job Friday and I’m starting Uni Monday. I guess I got sick of my life sucking as much as my poker results. Haven’t read a single book since high school (come to think of it I rarely read them there) and I’m pretty nervous. Just gotta work hard I guess like most things. I’m also planning on moving out (bout time lol) so a lot of my spare time next weak I’ll be looking at apartments.

you're right against the wall for your 6 months with a BR greater than 500 or I quit forever threshold in your first post.

Good luck.

Well I'm done with 10nl...


It's just like my 25nl graph only upside down lol

Gonna start playing 25nl now probably 4 tables for a bit. weeeeeeeeeee

Fuck…

Down $100 today after moving to 25nl

I hate short stacks
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($41.70)
MP ($6.10)
CO ($6.30)
Button ($45.50)
SB ($23.05)
Hero (BB) ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 8
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.75) 10, 9, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.75) J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($0.75) 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises $3.50, 1 fold, Hero raises $23.75 (All-In), CO calls $2.55 (All-In)

Total pot: $12.85
Main pot: $12.85 between CO and Hero, won by CO

Results:
Hero had 6, 8 (straight, Jack high).
CO had Q, K (straight, King high).
Outcome: CO won $12.25

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($21.55)
UTG ($5)
Hero (MP1) ($25.35)
MP2 ($19)
CO ($23.95)
Button ($8)
SB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, A
UTG (poster) bets $0.25, Hero raises $1.60, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold, UTG (poster) calls $1.10

Flop: ($5.05) Q, 3, 10 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $4.10, SB calls $3.40 (All-In), UTG calls $3.40 (All-In)

Turn: ($15.25) A (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($15.25) 2 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $15.25
Main pot: $15.25 between UTG, Hero and SB, won by SB

Results:
SB had 10, 10 (three of a kind, tens).
UTG didn't show
Hero had Q, A (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Outcome: SB won $14.50

Could not have played this one worse should have folded to the flop reraise but to be honest even pushing against this villain would have been better
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($39.50)
SB ($29.40)
BB ($7.05)
Hero (UTG) ($30.85)
MP1 ($34.55)
MP2 ($28.90)
CO ($41.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, J
Hero bets $1, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.10) 5, Q, A (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.30, 1 fold, CO raises $6.60, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.30

Turn: ($17.30) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

River: ($24.80) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Total pot: $31.80
Main pot: $31.80 between Hero and CO, won by CO

Results:
Hero had A, J (one pair, Aces).
CO had A, Q (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Outcome: CO won $30.30

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($27.45)
MP ($25)
CO ($24.90)
Button ($27.05)
SB ($11.85)
Hero (BB) ($27.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, J
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.75) 6, 8, J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($1.95) 10 (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises $4.20, SB raises $6.40, Hero raises $16.30, SB calls $3.60 (All-In)

River: ($23.95) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $23.95
Main pot: $23.95 between SB and Hero, won by SB

Results:
SB had 9, Q (straight, Queen high).
Hero had 6, J (two pair, Jacks and sixes).
Outcome: SB won $22.80

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($14.25)
Hero (SB) ($25)
BB ($32.90)
UTG ($22.80)
MP1 ($33.90)
MP2 ($18.75)
CO ($24.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero bets $1.40, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1.25, MP2 calls $1.25

Flop: ($4.75) 5, 8, 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $4.10, MP1 calls $4.10, MP2 raises $17.25 (All-In), Hero raises $19.40 (All-In), MP1 calls $19.40

Turn: ($69) 7 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($69) 2 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $69
Main pot: $56.50 between Hero, MP1 and MP2, won by MP1
Side pot 1: $12.50 between Hero and MP1, won by MP1

Results:
Hero had A, A (two pair, Aces and fives).
MP1 had 3, 5 (three of a kind, fives).
MP2 didn't show
Outcome: MP1 won $66

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($22.05)
UTG ($18.85)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($15)
MP2 ($34.80)
CO ($31.55)
Hero (Button) ($33.70)
SB ($20.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
UTG bets $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises $1.60, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.55) 4, 5, J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.10, UTG raises $6.20, Hero raises $29 (All-In), UTG calls $11.05 (All-In)

Turn: ($38.05) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($38.05) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $38.05
Main pot: $38.05 between UTG and Hero, won by UTG

Results:
Hero had K, K (two pair, Kings and Jacks).
UTG had 5, 5 (full house, fives over Jacks).
Outcome: UTG won $36.20

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($30.70)
UTG+1 ($34.35)
Hero (MP1) ($27.15)
MP2 ($25)
MP3 ($15)
CO ($20.70)
Button ($60.50)
SB ($22.65)
BB ($4.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, K
2 folds, Hero bets $1, 5 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) A, 4, K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.90, BB raises $3.05 (All-In), Hero calls $1.15

Turn: ($8.20) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.20) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.20
Main pot: $8.20 between Hero and BB, won by BB

Results:
BB had A, A (three of a kind, Aces).
Hero had A, K (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: BB won $7.80

My initial thought was that I need to stop stacking off with over pairs but after reviewing these hands and villains stats now I’m stumped. Stars 25nl seems looser than 10nl.

BR $400

I'm gonna go puke

Man was I tilted last night lol.

Hit the tables today with a clear head and ran goot. Probably should have dropped back to 10nl but I decided to give myself a 1 BI stop loss and just play with the $400 BR. Up to $490 now and I’ve realized I need to stop getting so mentally frustrated at 25nl. You play with more money and your BR swings bigger… Duh?

Had my first day of Uni today which was kinda overwhelming. Missed most of my first class trying to get my bearings and frankly felt a little weird being around so many people my own age. The class work seems pretty straight forward nothing particularly intimidating which I was kinda worried about. Loads of cute girls and definitely can’t complain about the guy to girl ratio. Just need to grow some balls and break the ice…

I want to bang my modern texts lecturer.


This hand is kinda cool to me
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($27)
SB ($14.85)
BB ($5.35)
UTG ($53.20)
Hero (UTG+1) ($25)
MP1 ($8.35)
MP2 ($25.20)
MP3 ($46.75)
CO ($20.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 10, 10
UTG calls $0.25, Hero bets $1.25, 7 folds, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($2.85) J, K, 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2

Turn: ($6.85) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($6.85) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $8, Hero calls $8

Total pot: $22.85
When he over bet the river I immediately thought he had the higher straight for some reason (he was pretty tight passive) and almost hit fold but stopped thought for a second realized that was stupid and basically put him on his hand (kj).

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($27.95)
Button ($19.55)
SB ($24.65)
Hero (BB) ($49.15)
UTG ($16.10)
UTG+1 ($28.05)
MP1 ($2.10)
MP2 ($30.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K
5 folds, Button calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero bets $1, Button calls $1

Flop: ($2.60) 8, 7, J (2 players)
Hero bets $2.10, Button calls $2.10

Turn: ($6.80) A (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, 1 fold

Total pot: $6.80
Thoughts?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($25.80)
UTG ($10.35)
UTG+1 ($30.35)
Hero (MP1) ($26.55)
MP2 ($19.15)
MP3 ($24.60)
CO ($38.75)
Button ($20.25)
SB ($21.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 10, 10
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, 2 folds, Button calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 10, 8, 2 (4 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.75, Hero raises $5, 2 folds, UTG+1 raises $27.85 (All-In), Hero calls $20.80 (All-In)

Turn: ($54.95) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($54.95) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $54.95
I so wish it was the Kd on the river it would have crushed him lol (A high flush draw)

BR = $620

Making 25nl my bitch.

Tomorrow i'm going to attempt some EV calculations about c-betting in 3 bet pots.

Villain is 74/23/60

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($28.40)
UTG+1 ($25.95)
MP1 ($60.45)
MP2 ($23.45)
Hero (MP3) ($35.25)
CO ($5.50)
Button ($24.75)
SB ($16.90)
BB ($19.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $1, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises $4.10, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $3.10, MP1 calls $3.10

Flop: ($12.65) 6, 3, 7 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $10.20, 1 fold, MP1 raises $20.40, Hero raises $20.95 (All-In), MP1 calls $10.75

Turn: ($74.95) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($74.95) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $74.95

Results:
MP1 had 2, 4 (straight, seven high).
Hero had Q, Q (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: MP1 won $71.95

UTG1: Wow MP1 you really suck

UTG1: You only had some crazy percentage to win that I just now made up in my head and is completely wrong

UTG1: I would rather not play with you please leave the table

MP1: certainly my good man

MP1 leaves table

UTG1: thank goodness the lucker has left

ME: …wat?

Fucking poker.

Just lost a couple of big pots in quick succession.

First hand villain is 17/4/18 over almost 400 hands.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($23.65)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($8.80)
MP2 ($25)
CO ($13.85)
Button ($97.20)
SB ($22.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.25) 8, 7, 9 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.25, 3 folds, Hero raises $4.20, UTG+1 calls $2.95

Turn: ($9.65) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.80, UTG+1 raises $20.55 (All-In), Hero calls $12.75 (All-In)

River: ($50.75) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $50.75

Very next hand same table same villain

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($23.75)
BB ($48.25)
UTG ($21.65)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($13.85)
MP2 ($96.95)
CO ($22.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K
5 folds, Hero bets $1, 1 fold, BB raises $3.50, Hero raises $10.30, BB raises $42, Hero calls $13.70 (All-In)

Flop: ($50.10) 9, Q, 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($50.10) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($50.10) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $50.10

Results in white below:
Hero had A, K (high card, Ace).
BB had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $68.35

Not sure how I feel about this. I think I leveled myself but I figure he sees me as pretty tilted and does this with a fairly wide range… Stats suggest otherwise I guess. My 4bet should have been a shove for meta looks more tilted. I don’t know.

Weeeee next hand villain is 100/0/10 over only ten hands.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($12.70)
Button ($29)
SB ($15.90)
BB ($27.75)
UTG ($35.95)
UTG+1 ($25.60)
Hero (MP1) ($25)
MP2 ($25)
MP3 ($25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, Q
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.75, Hero raises $2.40, 4 folds, SB calls $2.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.80) 10, 3, 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.70, SB calls $4.70

Turn: ($15.20) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $8.80 (All-In), Hero calls $8.80

River: ($32.80) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $32.80

Results in white below:
SB had K, 10 (three of a kind, tens).
Hero had Q, Q (two pair, Queens and tens).
Outcome: SB won $31.20

I’ve also started playing retarded against short stacks. I’m gonna go do some reading for uni might play later.

BR $525

Meh.

We’ll I’m an idiot. For some reason 25nl turns me into a tilted retard. Lost 4 BI to bad beats and then went on to lose more playing drunk/tilted and chasing loses at 6-max 50nl. So stupid and now I’ve gotta regrind. I’m gonna play good today full ring 25nl max 14 tables.

BR $410

Back to 10nl…

Played bad and ran bad at 25nl. Back to 10nl to make a few BI and take another shot. Can’t remember how many times I’ve done this now. Gonna play 6-max exclusively for a while to make 10nl more interesting. 6 tables max.

Well you’ve gotta love poker. I was feeling really shitty about myself and my play having moved back to 10nl recently but after looking over HEM I realized I’m -$250 in all in EV. Problem with this is it reinforces by belief that I’m cursed at 25nl lol.

Playing 6 max I’m down a buy in so far.

Villain is 60/10/26 over 50 hands.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($25.60)
CO ($10)
Button ($11.60)
SB ($22.10)
BB ($46.50)
Hero (UTG) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A
Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) A, 7, 2 (3 players)
BB bets $0.60, Hero raises $2.55, 1 fold, BB raises $3.90, Hero raises $7.05 (All-In), BB calls $5.10

Turn: ($20.45) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.45) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.45

Villian is 24/20/50 over 40 hands. Looking back I played this really badly. I hate taking a passive line with the nut draw. Probably should have check called turn.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($10.05)
BB ($10)
UTG ($16.05)
MP ($10)
Button ($10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K
2 folds, Button bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.20, 1 fold, Button calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.60) 6, Q, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button calls $2

Turn: ($6.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.80 (All-In), Button calls $6.75 (All-In)

River: ($20.10) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.10

No history with villian.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($36.05)
CO ($8.35)
Button ($9.70)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($9.65)
UTG ($10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K
1 fold, MP bets $0.20, 1 fold, Button calls $0.20, Hero raises $0.80, 1 fold, MP calls $0.65, Button calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.65) 7, 6, 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $2, MP calls $2, 1 fold

Turn: ($6.65) K (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP raises $8, Hero calls $3.15 (All-In)

River: ($20.95) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.95

Current bankroll= $340

So I’ve been naughty playing 25nl under rolled. Really enjoying 6 max playing 4 tables at the moment. I’m planning on keeping $200 on stars and withdrawing every time I make a $100 obviously redepositing as needed. This will hopefully stop me checking the cashier screen every five minutes become tilted I’m down $5 and trowing away an BI.

Villian is 51/15/45 over 40 hands.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP) ($35.65)
CO ($25.45)
Button ($13.45)
SB ($24.65)
BB ($26)
UTG ($14.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4, 4
1 fold, Hero bets $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 6, 10, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.90, Button calls $1.90

Turn: ($6.15) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

River: ($6.15) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4, Hero calls $4

Total pot: $14.15

Playing 10nl FR again. I run so good at 10nl it’s sick. Should be rolled for another shot at 25nl by the end of the week.

I just spent $500 on DVDs and I’m supposed to be saving money lol. Also I’ve discovered beef jerky which imo is the shit. Gonna play residentevil 5 now.

got stats?

Originally Posted by daven

start with $200 on stars, play $5nl until you reach $250, move up to 10nl and finish clearing the $50 first deposit bonus - then start looking around/thinking about other bonuses. Where are you based?

I started $200 last year, pulled out $5k recently and still have a bunch online. It can be done.

I really enjoy your honest post, honestly I see a lot of similarities, I am done playing drunk. For me the worst is winning thousands on bodog and then getting drunk and gambling them away in the rigged casino. For me continually learning to disengage my emotions and not play hammered is helping, although I did break my monitor today.

I really think losing is a good thing in the begginning especially if its all obvious azz shit we can fix. Good luck and I look forward to reading more of your posts!~

Graph since moving back to stars.



Stats


(I know I know nit)

I’m saving posting my 25nl stats until I’m back in the green. I know this is stupid but I really feel I should be able to beat 25nl without help and don’t want to take away from the epicness of when I do post it. The stats themselves are basically the same as my 10nl stats. I really feel I’ve worked out 25nl and if it wasn’t for an insane run of bad luck would still be there. I will post a graph for the month which will show this.

Haven’t been putting in any hands recently because I haven’t really been in the mood. I’m sure the itch to play will come back. I need to stop playing as a means to kill time poker is work!

It’s an hour and a half drive to where I go to uni. Every day I have to make the trip to and from and I feel it’s really taking a lot out of me. I can’t see how people drive for a living lol. The sooner I find my own place closer by the better.

BR $430

Well it’s that time again. The BR is at $505 which means it’s time for another shot at 25nl. Not gonna lie I’m getting pretty sick of this shit. I don’t know how I’ll react if I take another beating. Pretty sure I would have made it last time if it wasn’t for an insane run of bad luck but meh.

I will play a standard TAG game.
I will play 8 tables and slowly increase as my roll and confidence at the level increases.
I will not play tired.
I will not play when I’m not in the mood.
I will use a 2 BI stop loss limit for each session.
I will ALWAYS put my opponents on a range.
I will own.

Originally Posted by Pig_Vomit

Well it’s that time again. The BR is at $505 which means it’s time for another shot at 25nl.

GL man!! gogogogogogogo.

this time!!!!
20k hands at 5ptBB/100 please.

Thanks for the encouragement guys. I’ve been running good. Up a little over 4 BI in my first decent session of 25nl. I honestly think that tables on average are looser at 25nl. I don’t want to adjust my game too much as I know I’ll probably level myself but I’m thinking toning down some of the aggression such as blind stealing and raising limpers may be warranted. I just feel like I’m being floated a lot which I know I’m not it’s just players not recognizing that I’m tight and that they should fold when I bet lol. This being said if in my next session I’m sitting at a table and its nit town I’ll exploit it.

Here’s some hands.

Villain is 11/11/30 with a steal of 30 over 35 hands. Should I be waiting for more history against opponent before I try this play? Thoughts on second barrel?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($26.80)
MP1 ($25.35)
MP2 ($5.05)
CO ($4.90)
Button ($27.65)
SB ($26.80)
Hero (BB) ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 4
5 folds, SB bets $0.90, Hero raises $2.75, SB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 5, 3, 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4

Turn: ($14) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.50, 1 fold

Total pot: $14
Main pot: $14 won by Hero

Results in white below:
Hero had 5, 4 (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero won $20.85

Villain is 60/30/16 over 25 hands. Should I have folded turn?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($32.25)
BB ($31.90)
UTG ($35.95)
UTG+1 ($24.55)
MP1 ($22.55)
MP2 ($10.65)
Hero (CO) ($26.45)
Button ($11.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A
4 folds, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) J, J, 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

Turn: ($6.10) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises $8, Hero calls $4

River: ($22.10) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $20.90 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $22.10
Main pot: $22.10 returned to BB

Results in white below:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $41.95

Villain is 16/0/16 over 58 hands. I hate this spot.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($26)
Button ($5.30)
SB ($14.75)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($27.95)
UTG+1 ($12.65)
MP1 ($25.60)
MP2 ($20)
MP3 ($5)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, 2
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 5 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.75) 10, 2, 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, SB raises $1.50, Hero raises $3.75, SB raises $13 (All-In), Hero calls $10

Turn: ($29.75) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($29.75) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $29.75
Main pot: $29.75 between SB and Hero, won by Hero

Results in white below:
SB had A, 2 (three of a kind, twos).
Hero had 3, 2 (full house, twos over threes).
Outcome: Hero won $28.30

Played a session tonight and lost a BI. Pretty happy with this as I actually thought I’d hit my stop loss but it looks like I was picking up a lot of small pots. Loses were due to opponents drawing out so whatever as long as my expected EV keeps going up. Getting drawn out on (and more importantly my reaction to it) is a pretty big part of why I failed 25nl last time so it’s very important that I strictly enforce my stop loss. Can’t wait till I post my march graph I’m pretty proud of it in a masochistic kind of way.

I’ve got a lot of life shit I’ve been neglecting recently particularly uni stuff but I also need to sort out an apartment and other assorted crap. I’m feeling really lethargic lately. If I’m not going to put in the work then I’m wasting my time. I don’t want my academic life to mirror my poker life. I’m going to try and not play too much this week so I can get on top of all my shit before it becomes overwhelming.

It’s been an interesting month. Ran like shit but whatever. Back at 25nl and I’m going to kick major ass in April.