Give me my leg (and bankroll) back - Part II

Part I

So I've been reading through a lot of these Poker Etc threads that peoeple have and I think it could really help. I've been following setzy and 75k for a long while and since trainer/euph/anosmic started their own I think it will be a good way to start becomming serious again. So basically here is my situation:

I started donking my way around ring from pushaments in May at 25nl fr. I ran real well, moved up to 50nl and realized I suck at poker and by playing 8 tables I was running like 12/6 (ew). I studied became kinda better and long story short eventually worked my way up to 100nl with ~$3500 bankroll. I played like 40k hands total during this period of a few months (this is a lot for me) mainly 4tabling. I was stupid and cashed out a lot (pretty much all) of my br for business and personal reasons a while back and ever since I seem to have lost my "spark" if you will.

I recently was laid off from my job ( I was working as an aprentice carpenter with my dad) a couple weeks ago and now I have no cashflow. I actually don't mind not having a job since I absolutely hated it, I have no idea how people do that shit for 20 30 40+ years.... not my thing. But anyway I don't know if it is who I am as a person being too lazy or whatever, but I have a lot of time on my hands and just never play poker. I think from Sept - Nov I played maybe 5k hands. Granted I did have my job then working 40-50 hours / week but that's just a lame excuse.

OK SO ENOUGH BLABBERING.

RULES
- I plan on playing 2k hands per day or 10k hands per week MINIMUM. I will post how many hands and how I finished each session in this thread, if my numbers do not add up at the end of week make sure I am told how much of a pussy I am.
- I plan on playing exclusively 6max (starting at 25nl). I had played nothing but full ring up until recently. For that reason, I want to start at 25nl and adjust to playing 6max
- I plan on posting 1-2 hands from my session on FTR. This is obv, FTR got me to where I was today and I <3 you all.
- I WILL NOT BE A CASH OUT FISH. One of my biggest problems is cashing out, $100 here, $200 there.... it really stunts any growth to my BR.

OVERALL GOALS
- 40k + hands for December
- Reach 100nl 6max

I don't plan on posting monetary goals for myself because quite simply I don't think I am good enough. Plus no matter how good anyone is variance can be a bitch. Instead I think a # of hands is a much better idea. Once I feel comfortable at 6max I plan on moving up to 50nl and eventually hitting 100nl. I want 40 buyins for each limit before I move up, this is more for a comfort reason than anything else. This will all be on Pokerstars because Stars is sexy and that makes up for no rakeback. Maybe once I hit my overall goals I'll think about moving elsewhere like FTP but for now it's Stars 4 life.

So I guess that pretty much wraps it up for now. I will probably edit this post 1,000 times and add goals as they come to mind. I appreciate any feedback and luck (obv) that anyone wants to leave and now it's time to hit the felt!


Part II

Well folks, I figured it's about time to get my shit together again. I am still disapointed at myself for never finishing my old goal, but I had my reasons.

Some of you saw my thread about my business, and right around mid-December is when things started to pick up. This required a lot more of my time (and money) and turned my focus off of poker. From about December 15 until February 7th I have had more work and had more stress than I forsaw; everyone only has 24! But, I still feel I made the correct decision and although the business is still taking time, I'm finding myself with more free time again. Here is my current situation:

- I cashed out. I know I know. Stupid. I was really scraped for money, so I took out what was left of my bankroll.
- I am finding I have ~15 hours per week I can purely dedicate to poker. I am not sure if I will take all of this time, but I will play at least 10 hours/week.
- After saying that, my current bankroll stands at a staggering: $59.28.

Goals (I'll add more as I progress).
1) Play low buyin donkaments/ring to run my $59.28 up to $300 where I will switch to 25nl rull ring. I hope to reach this by March 1, 2007.
2) Play at least 10 hours/week (probably more) and record my stats here every day.

I guess you could call this my micro-grind challenge thread now. Everyone that reads this has the permission to slap me across the face if I do not update this at least every other day, so pay attention!

Okay I think that pretty much wraps it up. I hope I don't busto!

GL to ya man, seems like everyone is on a mission nowadays. Its like new years resolutions a month early.

Ok I'll start with Dec 1



I ran pretty good today. I had 2 horrendous beats, but gave a few pretty nasty ones too. All in all it was a good day. Poker is easy when you run well! I plan on posting some hands later, but it's 5am... I need sleep.

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

GL to ya man, seems like everyone is on a mission nowadays. Its like new years resolutions a month early.

Thanks mate! Seeing everyone else do this has motivated me to try it. I have a pretty bad motivation problem that I'm trying to fix and having to post results should help!

GL. I swore I saw you on my tables a few daysish ago, but I wasnt sure if it was you because i thought you played higher.

I was that guy with $10. ;]

Good luck man. Very nice first day for ya.

good luck, so far so good it looks like.

I've just switched to 25nl 6max on stars as well so I'll be interested to see how you do

Originally Posted by euphoricism

GL. I swore I saw you on my tables a few daysish ago, but I wasnt sure if it was you because i thought you played higher.

I was that guy with $10. ;]

Haha, what's your stars name? (Or how about I'll just assume every shortstack is you )

Originally Posted by kmind

Good luck man. Very nice first day for ya.

Thanks man! I hope I run good like yesterday always and forever.

Originally Posted by gnads

good luck, so far so good it looks like.

I've just switched to 25nl 6max on stars as well so I'll be interested to see how you do

Cool man, maybe I'll see you there... just don't call me with air and take the pot away, god I hate that (which is why I like 25nl). How many hands have you been playing?

I played a lot of poker today, 4,600 hands... This the most hands of poker I've EVER played in a day - I use to play this much in a week if I was lucky! I didn't run at hot as Dec 1, but I'm not complaining



Running goot is fun!

gl, I'm in a similar situation, I'm shooting for 2k/day 10k/week @ 50NL.

Don't slack

PS - Did you guys know that AA is the nuts pre AND post flop? (all from today)

damn...nice second day. How many tables are you running at a time?

Originally Posted by givememyleg

PS - Did you guys know that AA is the nuts pre AND post flop? (all from today)

Why isn't your vpip for AA 100%?

AA in the BB and everyone folds.

Originally Posted by jackvance

AA in the BB and everyone folds.

I must be tired.

How do you play 4k hands in a day? I play about 12k a month...

And nice results.

Now have some negative variance, you're making the rest of us look bad...

GL bud, at that rate won't take you long at all to hit 100NL.

Originally Posted by swiggidy

gl, I'm in a similar situation, I'm shooting for 2k/day 10k/week @ 50NL.

Don't slack

I won't slack so you best not either! gl sir. (PS - I like your thread idea in NLHES).

Originally Posted by kmind

damn...nice second day. How many tables are you running at a time?

I play 8 at a time.. I'm thinking about making some tables smaller to fit in 10; but 8 works for now.

Originally Posted by takesix

Why isn't your vpip for AA 100%?

Yeah what jack said... if he wouldn't have answered I would have replied with something sarcastic like "I had to fold AA because I knew I'd get sucked out on."

Originally Posted by Anosmic

How do you play 4k hands in a day? I play about 12k a month...

And nice results.

Now have some negative variance, you're making the rest of us look bad...

lol 4.6k hands is the most I have ever played in a day, but if you want to talk abotu someone about playing a lot of poker talk to Lukie.. he played 100k hands in like 13 days.

And shame on you, don't jinx me!

Originally Posted by ChrisTheFish

GL bud, at that rate won't take you long at all to hit 100NL.

tyty! It'd be nice to just sail up there.

I guess I'll start posting some hands...

Villian is a complete unknown and this is pretty spewy right?:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($15)
Hero ($22.65)
MP ($45.80)
CO ($19.95)
Button ($28.15)
SB ($12)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, A.
Hero raises to $1, 4 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) A, 7, 3 (2 players)
BB bets $14 (All-In), Hero calls $14.

Turn: ($30.10) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($30.10) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $30.10

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I play pretty bad in re-raised pots.... I think that's why my 3bet range is too low. However in this hand villian played bad.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($29.20)
UTG ($8.75)
MP ($36.60)
Button ($30.90)
Hero ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, Button calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, MP folds, Button calls $2.75.

Flop: ($8) 4, Q, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls $5.

Turn: ($18) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1, Hero calls $1.

River: ($20) T (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $20

Day 3:



Yawn, what a crappy and boring day. My stats are a bit looser than normal because I played like 400 or so hands HU on a couple tables. I'm actually not too disapointed by being +41, I was down 5 buyins at one point.

Just a couple hands from today:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($26.25)
MP ($39.15)
Hero ($58.15)
SB ($54.15)
BB ($35.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, T.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) 2, J, 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.5, SB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.25) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $10, Hero raises to $55.65, SB calls $41.65 (All-In).

River: ($112.55) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $112.55

SB has T J (flush, ace high).
Hero has 8 T (straight, queen high).
Outcome: SB wins $108.55. Hero wins $4.

400+ bb pot lol... What a stupid turn card, it gave him like a billion more outs and of course he can't fold with a Royal Flush draw... esspecially at these limits.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($20.95)
Hero ($26.45)
MP ($16.80)
CO ($8.70)
Button ($65.95)
SB ($14.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K.
Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, Button raises to $3, 1 fold, BB raises to $10, Hero raises to $26.45, Button folds, BB calls $10.95 (All-In).

Flop: ($50.50) J, 8, 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($50.50) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($50.50) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $50.50

BB has A A (one pair, aces).
Hero has K K (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins $45. Hero wins $5.50.

It was so obv... BB is a villian I have like 400 hands on and runs ~19/10 but hardly ever 3bets let alone 4bets... Now that I look back at it I think I could have folded. Just not good enough to laydown KK pf yet.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($13.75)
MP ($17.35)
CO ($24.45)
Button ($16.45)
SB ($35.10)
Hero ($26.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 8.
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.85) 7, J, 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $1, CO folds, Button raises to $2, Hero raises to $5, Button raises to $16, Hero raises to $30.1, Button calls $0.19 (All-In).

Turn: ($47.15) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($47.15) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $47.15

Hero has 7 8 (two pair, jacks and eights).
Button has T 9 (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Button wins $33.25. Hero wins $13.90.

God unraised pot... I'm such a fish. I had a lot of unlucky/bad beats however I did not play very well.

Originally Posted by givememyleg

I played a lot of poker today, 4,600 hands... This the most hands of poker I've EVER played in a day - I use to play this much in a week if I was lucky! I didn't run at hot as Dec 1, but I'm not complaining



Running goot is fun!

Good to see your still running well. I thought this was weird...my stats after 4,700 hands:

I only 2-3 table though, can you still get reads with 8 tables?
ps. sorry to hijack your thread

Originally Posted by gnads

Good to see your still running well. I thought this was weird...my stats after 4,700 hands:

I only 2-3 table though, can you still get reads with 8 tables?
ps. sorry to hijack your thread

Not too shabby sir. Yeah I can still get reads whilt playing 8 tables, but I'm not as focused as I would playing less. I don't really need reads that much persay at the lower limits, but I try to pay attn when hands go to showdown or when someone is involved in a big pot. I quickyl double click on their name and will write something like "CS" (calling station) or "SP" (slow plays)... just minor stuff like that.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($28.20)
MP ($24.65)
Button ($28.85)
Hero ($28.20)
BB ($29.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 7.
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) T, 9, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

River: ($11) J (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BB folds.

Final Pot: $21

Was just PRAYING he had the A ... First straight flush since summer.

Day 4:

I played 0 hands of poker today and it doesn't look like I am going to get any in. Oh well, in 3 days I already played ~10,000 hands and that's my goal for a week so I don't have a problem taking a day off. I'll play around 2-3k tomorrow. Peeeeeeeeace brothas.

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Was just PRAYING he had the A ... First straight flush since summer.

I like a river push. He's folding everything but the A or perhaps K to a PSB anyway, but there's no way he could or should lay down the A-high flush if you push.

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Was just PRAYING he had the A ... First straight flush since summer.

I like a river push. He's folding everything but the A or perhaps K to a PSB anyway, but there's no way he could or should lay down the A-high flush if you push.

Good point.

Day 5:



Wow was today ever lame. I played so unbelievablely bad for the first 1k or so hands... took a break and played boring break even poker for the next 1k. This was one of those days where I couldn't get anything going, sets were not hitting, big hands not getting paid off, etc. I also was making waaaaaay too many call downs with mediocre hands, my w$@sd was ~10% lower than normal. I think one of my biggest leaks is calling down bets with hands like mid-pair/tpnk etc in unraised pots.

I've been breakeven for my last 5k hands now - I hope tomorrow will be better.

Some terribley played hands:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($13.40)
CO ($10.40)
Button ($16.50)
SB ($16.10)
Hero ($48.20)
UTG ($14.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 7.
UTG raises to $0.5, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25.

Flop: ($2.50) 5, 9, 2 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1, Button folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.25, UTG folds, CO raises to $9.9, Hero calls $6.65.

Turn: ($22.30) K (2 players)

River: ($22.30) Q (2 players)

Final Pot: $22.30

Hero has 6 7 (high card, king).
CO has 9 9 (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: CO wins $22.30.

Meh, I dunno maybe this wasn't that bad, he was a shortie and he could easily have tp so I guess gambool.... but he also could have had a higher fd. Shrug.

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POKERSTARS GAME #7322053959: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/12/06 - 03:49:07 (ET)
Table 'Murzim II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: chipstar1 ($28.35 in chips)
Seat 2: specia1_k ($32.50 in chips)
Seat 3: heslife777 ($15.20 in chips)
Seat 4: superhun123 ($4.90 in chips)
Seat 6: givememyleg ($39.50 in chips)
superhun123: posts small blind $0.10
givememyleg: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to givememyleg [A K]
chipstar1: folds
specia1_k: calls $0.25
heslife777: folds
superhun123: calls $0.15
givememyleg: raises $1 to $1.25
specia1_k: calls $1
superhun123: folds
*** FLOP *** [4 9 4]
givememyleg: bets $1.50
specia1_k: raises $1.50 to $3
givememyleg: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [4 9 4] [3]
givememyleg: checks
Rush3420 joins the table at seat #5
specia1_k: bets $1.50
givememyleg: calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** [4 9 4 3] [K]
givememyleg: checks
specia1_k: bets $1.75
givememyleg: calls $1.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
specia1_k: shows [4 A] (three of a kind, Fours)
givememyleg: mucks hand
specia1_k collected $14.55 from pot

For some reason the coverter wouldn't work with this hand. The reason I called down is because villian was 80/30/4 and a complete and utter fish. He was one of those people you LOVE to have at your table but was always getting the best of me... I don't think I won a pot from him. I still played this bad....

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($22.90)
UTG ($16.10)
MP ($7.45)
Hero ($38.95)
SB ($15.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, 4.
UTG raises to $0.5, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds.

Flop: ($1.85) 2, 3, 5 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50.

Turn: ($3.35) 2 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $2.5, UTG folds, MP calls $2.50.

River: ($8.35) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $4.25, MP calls $3.95 (All-In).

Final Pot: $16.55

MP has J Q (two pair, jacks and twos).
Hero has 4 4 (two pair, fours and twos).
Outcome: MP wins $16.25. Hero wins $0.29.

I thought the board was 2 3 5 6 J

Day 6:

I feel like absolute shit so no poker for today. I've already been laying down for pretty much the whole day (minus looking at some houses) so this needs to go away soon. I might also need to take like 5-7 days (!!!!) off because I might be moving into a house and have no electricity/internet for a week if not more. That would be teh suck, but we will see what happens.

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Day 6:

I feel like absolute shit so no poker for today. I've already been laying down for pretty much the whole day (minus looking at some houses) so this needs to go away soon. I might also need to take like 5-7 days (!!!!) off because I might be moving into a house and have no electricity/internet for a week if not more. That would be teh suck, but we will see what happens.

Wish I would have listened to myself:



I feel like shit. Absolute shit. I felt like shit before I started playing and now I feel even worse. Bad run? Doubtful, I have some serious leaks that need plugging. I need to do something. I think I am going to review everything single fucking hand of my last 5k hands and see wtf is going on.

I just realized I'm not that good - Salsa4ever

That is pretty much how I feel right now. Maybe even worse. I know understand why I never pursued past 100nl and was pretty much break even the whole way through. In my introduction post I said I ran my br up to ~3500, but it's not like it was a breeze. That took over 4 months, and most was built from 25/50nl - plus a few MTT cashes. Once I hit 100nl, I was pretty much 1bb/100. I had my reasons for cashing out most of it (business, money problems) but I really did feel like I would never progress any higher. I felt that I "mine as well cash out" because I would never do well higher than 100nl. And since I wouldn't I only needed a small bankroll for the smaller limits - and I needed the money - I took it.

As I read everything I just said it sounds ridiculous. I think I am a decent player, I think I can make money playing this game and I know it could be that magical word called variance; but it really isn't that simple. The amount of regulars at 200nl and above (even the amount at 100nl these days) is absurd. Sometimes I just watched the 200/400+ nl games and I see the same people all the time. I just don't see how I could bring my game up to there and seriously think about beating it. I don't know if it is a confidence issue, motivation issue, or whatever; but I can't see me bringing my skill as it stands today and beating those levels. I am even nervous to take shots at 100nl. I have some learning to do.

At the small stakes if someone were having trouble beating it, I would just tell them to play abc smart poker. Why? Because that's what I do and it works for me - kind of. I really like dnuts post Don't be a poker pansy; it pretty much describes how far along I am skill wise. I swear he could have based that entire thread off of me alone. I pretty much only think abc, bet fold to aggression, cbet and check turn if called and I missed, etc etc. Granted I do not need to get tricky at these limits, but if my overall goal is to move to an area where I do, I need to start learning.

I don't know if this post is because of my last 6k hands, or if because I am just in a contemplative mood, but nonetheless I know I need to change. "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity." If I'm not running hot, I do not make money. It's that simple. If my sets aren't getting paid, my big pairs folding around, etc etc, then I make no money. I hope I find myself emotionally strong enough to make is through this because shit, if I feel this crappy from breaking even at 25nl I can't imagine dropping 5+ buyins at 200nl+. I am not mentally ready to play higher limits. I am not mentally ready to lose even $100 in a hand at 100nl. I even find myself feeling it when I lose a big pot at 25nl. I don't know, maybe I am a "poker pansy" or whatever, but until I learn to get over the fear I will never be as good as I can.

I am glad I did start this thread. I think without it I wouldn't be dedicated to poker nor would I be analyzing my game as much. I have played more hands so far this week than I have the past couple months, and I am happy with that. I am not going to get upset with myself if I do not make as much money as I wanted this month, so long as I play as many hands as I said. I keep telling myself it is long term and just play 1,000,000,000,000 hands and eventually I'll come out on top. I might not be a very good player, but hell I am good enough to be micro stakes.

Only time will tell.

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Sometimes I just watched the 200/400+ nl games and I see the same people all the time. I just don't see how I could bring my game up to there and seriously think about beating it. I don't know if it is a confidence issue, motivation issue, or whatever; but I can't see me bringing my skill as it stands today and beating those levels. I am even nervous to take shots at 100nl. I have some learning to do.

I was having a conversation just yesterday with one of my MTT compadres. He was talking about looking up tourney results for people like beLOW aBOVe, Tmay, etc and being disheartened by how well they were doing. I think he said beLOW has cashed 90K this month already (LOL). I told him that it can be inspirational as well, keep working on your game and you should be able to at least approach this level of success. I told him to think about how much his game has improved over the last year - he said he can see a huge difference just since May. I'm constantly amazed at how far I've come and what I've learned since I signed on here. Think about that for a bit and hopefully it will improve your confidence and your perspective. I like what you're doing with this thread, keep it up.

Here's something from the back of a Starbucks cup that I liked:

Originally Posted by Anne Morriss, Starbucks customer

The irony of commitment is that it's deeply liberating - in work, in play, in love. The act frees you from the tyranny of your internal critic, from the fear that likes to dress itself up and parade around as rational hesitation. To commit is to remove your head as the barrier to your life

Thanks cob, you da man brotha!

Week 1 Update:

Ok week 1 comes to an end. I wanted to play at least 10,000 hands of poker and finished with 12k. So I played even more than I planned on, and made a little money. Here are my weekly stats/graph:




Played for exactly 18.00 hours with 8 tables running constantly. Basically made all my money the first 2 days and have been break even for the last 5. Shrug, I have a lot of things to work on and until I feel comfortable I won't be playing any higher than 25nl.

Here are my goals for week 2:

- Play at least 10k hands.
- Post more hands.
- Start reading T&P (still haven't!!).
- Take shots at 50nl.

I know people say (I have even said it myself) how 25nl and 50nl have no difference at all, but I'm just taking my time moving up. My bankroll isn't very large atm so mentally I don't know if I'd be able to handle a 4 buyin downswing at 50nl quite yet. But I'll try to play some of my hands at 50nl this week. Oh one last goal, WIN MONIE$!!

Originally Posted by givememyleg

I just realized I'm not that good - Salsa4ever

That is pretty much how I feel right now. Maybe even worse. I know understand why I never pursued past 100nl and was pretty much break even the whole way through. In my introduction post I said I ran my br up to ~3500, but it's not like it was a breeze. That took over 4 months, and most was built from 25/50nl - plus a few MTT cashes. Once I hit 100nl, I was pretty much 1bb/100. I had my reasons for cashing out most of it (business, money problems) but I really did feel like I would never progress any higher. I felt that I "mine as well cash out" because I would never do well higher than 100nl. And since I wouldn't I only needed a small bankroll for the smaller limits - and I needed the money - I took it.

As I read everything I just said it sounds ridiculous. I think I am a decent player, I think I can make money playing this game and I know it could be that magical word called variance; but it really isn't that simple. The amount of regulars at 200nl and above (even the amount at 100nl these days) is absurd. Sometimes I just watched the 200/400+ nl games and I see the same people all the time. I just don't see how I could bring my game up to there and seriously think about beating it. I don't know if it is a confidence issue, motivation issue, or whatever; but I can't see me bringing my skill as it stands today and beating those levels. I am even nervous to take shots at 100nl. I have some learning to do.

At the small stakes if someone were having trouble beating it, I would just tell them to play abc smart poker. Why? Because that's what I do and it works for me - kind of. I really like dnuts post Don't be a poker pansy; it pretty much describes how far along I am skill wise. I swear he could have based that entire thread off of me alone. I pretty much only think abc, bet fold to aggression, cbet and check turn if called and I missed, etc etc. Granted I do not need to get tricky at these limits, but if my overall goal is to move to an area where I do, I need to start learning.

I don't know if this post is because of my last 6k hands, or if because I am just in a contemplative mood, but nonetheless I know I need to change. "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity." If I'm not running hot, I do not make money. It's that simple. If my sets aren't getting paid, my big pairs folding around, etc etc, then I make no money. I hope I find myself emotionally strong enough to make is through this because shit, if I feel this crappy from breaking even at 25nl I can't imagine dropping 5+ buyins at 200nl+. I am not mentally ready to play higher limits. I am not mentally ready to lose even $100 in a hand at 100nl. I even find myself feeling it when I lose a big pot at 25nl. I don't know, maybe I am a "poker pansy" or whatever, but until I learn to get over the fear I will never be as good as I can.

I am glad I did start this thread. I think without it I wouldn't be dedicated to poker nor would I be analyzing my game as much. I have played more hands so far this week than I have the past couple months, and I am happy with that. I am not going to get upset with myself if I do not make as much money as I wanted this month, so long as I play as many hands as I said. I keep telling myself it is long term and just play 1,000,000,000,000 hands and eventually I'll come out on top. I might not be a very good player, but hell I am good enough to be micro stakes.

Only time will tell.

WOW! I finally got the chance to come back and read this whole thread and this post in particular. I've been here recently. Good luck man, I think some of us will help each other out of this funk that is the "Why the fuck can't I beat $25NL" blues.

oh yea, Don't discount Rakeback dude. $300+ last month for me, and I work full time. It'll cover some swings. And try some bonus sites for a change. Stars will help your game but not the roll. Nice run.

It sounds like you got a handle of things. I wouldn't stay around 25 NL any longer and try and move up the ranks as quickly as possible.

Week 2: Day 1

I feel like I'm just wasting my time.



I don't have much to say, don't want to think about poker right now. I'm not mentally ready to play this game as much as I always thought I could.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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MP ($48)
Button ($55.35)
Hero ($50)
BB ($98.20)
UTG ($40.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, 6.
1 fold, MP raises to $1.5, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.25, BB raises to $6, MP folds, Hero calls $4.50.

Flop: ($13.50) 6, J, 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $11, Hero raises to $44, BB calls $33.

Turn: ($101.50) Q (2 players)

River: ($101.50) A (2 players)

Final Pot: $101.50

Hero has 6c 6d (three of a kind, sixes).
BB has Qs Qc (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: BB wins $101.50.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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BB ($44.90)
UTG ($59.05)
MP ($63.80)
Hero ($49.35)
SB ($47.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K.
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $34, SB raises $13.25, Hero calls $13.25.

Flop: ($97.75) 2, 6, J (2 players)

Turn: ($97.75) Q (2 players)

River: ($97.75) A (2 players)

Final Pot: $97.75

Hero has Kh Kd (one pair, kings).
SB has Qh Qd (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: SB wins $97.75.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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MP ($50.45)
CO ($60.40)
Hero ($50.95)
SB ($85.30)
BB ($21.80)
UTG ($61.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, T.
UTG raises to $2, MP calls $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8.25) 2, 7, 3 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $1, Hero raises to $7, BB calls $7, UTG folds, MP folds.

Turn: ($23.25) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13, BB calls $12.80 (All-In).

River: ($49.05) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $49.05

BB has 8c 3c (two pair, eights and threes).
Hero has Ts Th (one pair, tens).
Outcome: BB wins $48.85. Hero wins $0.20.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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SB ($12.35)
Hero ($24.40)
UTG ($24.50)
MP ($8.65)
CO ($31.20)
Button ($20.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 4.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button raises to $0.5, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, Button calls $0.25.

Flop: ($3.25) 2, 5, 3 (4 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $3.25, UTG calls $3.25, Button folds, SB raises to $5.5, Hero raises to $23.65, UTG calls $20.40, SB calls $6.10 (All-In).

Turn: ($62.15) 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($62.15) J (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $62.15

SB has 6d 6s (two pair, sixes and fives).
Hero has Ad 4d (straight, five high).
UTG has 2c 2d (full house, twos full of fives).
Outcome: UTG wins $62.15.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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SB ($24.85)
BB ($15.25)
UTG ($15.70)
Hero ($26.95)
Button ($16)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) 8, T, Q (2 players)
SB bets $1.75, Hero raises to $4.5, SB raises to $23.85, Hero calls $19.35.

Turn: ($49.95) 6 (2 players)

River: ($49.95) J (2 players)

Final Pot: $49.95

SB has Qh 9h (straight, queen high).
Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: SB wins $49.95.

Don't mind me... I'm just really not in a good mood. Maybe I'll try this casino whoring I've been hearing about.

Blaaah, I don't wanna sound ridiculous. I guess it just sucks more to me and is having a larger impact than usual because it all happened within 25 mins at my first shot at 50nl. I'm in no way crying my little eyes out or beating up the dog, I just really don't think I could mentally handle playing this game "professionally"... and I think this proves it.

For a while now I've always wanted to play poker "for a living" because quite frankly, I've hated every single job I have ever had. I hated waking up early, I hated driving there, I hated my bosses, I hated being there when I just wanted to have my own time. Also I think another reason I wanted to is because I'd love to answer the question "What do you do?" with "I play poker."

I don't want to turn my project thread into a soap opera or anything, but I think I just need to write right now. No one is going to care how many bad beats I took or how bad I played, and I'm not looking for any sympathy (seriously).

I guess I'm just not ready atm. I mean if breaking even at 25nl, then a 3 buyin swing at my first shot at 50nl makes me feel this bad, is it even worth it? Not by any means am I saying I'm giving up on this 10k+ per week goal, and I'm still going to get it done... but it just seems that it is becomming clear to me that once poker becomes the primary source of income, it becomes a job. Well duh I know you're thinking, that's the definition of a job. But I hate jobs, I've hated every job I've ever worked. Once it becomes something I have to do rather than something I want to do, it's no longer fun.

lol... I'm going to get out of the house or something right now. No more poker today, hopefully tomorrow I'll run at 49.54 bb/100 and make up for my losses.

Amen sir. Jobs suck, but poker as a job is tough tough tough and it doesnt take much to start to hate it. It takes a degree of mental toughness that few people can handle long term without melting down. I certainly melted down.

Good thread man. I only just decided to look through some of these other operation threads just now. Poker is tough to to full time and it takes a while to figure that out. Keep plugging away though, someday we'll all be killing 2kNL for 3ptBB/100.

Stick with it man. Those are some tough beats but it seems to me that you are getting your money it while you're ahead so eventually it's going to start flowing back to you.

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

WOW! I finally got the chance to come back and read this whole thread and this post in particular. I've been here recently. Good luck man, I think some of us will help each other out of this funk that is the "Why the fuck can't I beat $25NL" blues.

oh yea, Don't discount Rakeback dude. $300+ last month for me, and I work full time. It'll cover some swings. And try some bonus sites for a change. Stars will help your game but not the roll. Nice run.

Thanks jyms (what does jyms mean anyway?). I was just having a rough time and I feel better about it now. As for rakeback, once I feel I start to get ahold o fmy game and beocme more serious I plan on switching to a rb site. However, as it is today I'm happy just chillaxin' at stars. Maybe next week I'll put some money over on ftp or something.

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

It sounds like you got a handle of things. I wouldn't stay around 25 NL any longer and try and move up the ranks as quickly as possible.

Yeah, I think I could have the ability to move up however I don't think I am ready mentally. I want to spend some more hands here and progressively moving up when I feel ready. At one point losing $200 in one hand was okay with me, but I have to "relearn" the security or something.

Originally Posted by euphoricism

Amen sir. Jobs suck, but poker as a job is tough tough tough and it doesnt take much to start to hate it. It takes a degree of mental toughness that few people can handle long term without melting down. I certainly melted down.

Yeah this is something I am learning fast! Poker as a job when it is a thought sounds like a dream life... but as a practice, totally different.

Originally Posted by Irisheyes

Good thread man. I only just decided to look through some of these other operation threads just now. Poker is tough to to full time and it takes a while to figure that out. Keep plugging away though, someday we'll all be killing 2kNL for 3ptBB/100.

Thanks man! This means a lot as I've been following your thread since you started it and I remember when you were having your massive downswing.... you looked very very strong as a person working through it and keeping a postive attitude; I look up to that.

Originally Posted by gnads

Stick with it man. Those are some tough beats but it seems to me that you are getting your money it while you're ahead so eventually it's going to start flowing back to you.

Those hands I posted I was ahead, I didn't post the ones where I was making stupid plays. But thanks man, I'm going to keep playing and hopefully I will just be able to chart this off as "one of those days."

Week 2: Day 2

No hands today. I didn't really feel like playing today. I had a nice relaxing day with the girlfriend and had a seminar for one of my businesses to attend to from 5-11. That didn't leave much time but I think I needed the day off. Tomorrow I will play 2k+ hands and I can only cross my fingers that I'll show you some green instead of red.

Just want to say thanks to everyone for the kind words and encouragment. It really helps knowing people are following/reading this thread! A good quote I heard today: "It is easy to let yourself down, but hard to let someone else down." I probably slaughtered the exact wording of it, but it makes sense. If I told myself I am going to play 10k hands per week, I could easily make up excuses. People (including myself) do not find it hard to let themselves down. But when I post here and make it public what my goals are, I don't want to let this thread down and I want to be able to show I can do this. It really does help!

Week 2: Day 3



This really isn't fun. That is all.

Giveme, can you help me with my poker tracker graph? How do I get the options for Hands 10^3, does it requrie a min. amount of hands? And how do i get the option for "Amount" I don't understand my graph options.

legman, don't get down because you ran bad in your first hands at 50nl.

post your hands in the sh forum and keep thinking about play at that level. get ready to go own it.
i'd also suggest lurking some of the games, finding a few weaker/fishier regulars that you want to sit with, and just making observations/taking notes in general.

hope to see you kicking ass going forward.

$69 in red at 50NL is only a bit over a buyin. You'll be in green in no-time. Just keep playing your A game when you're not tired and pay attention to other players.

Like I know anything about 50NL, 5NL sure

Thanks for your replies everyone. I've been having some shit for luck and am playing bad at the same time. I felt like absolute shit losing almost everything I made in week 1 in a couple days. I'm not use to this extreme variance, esspecially not use to running -50 bb/100 in 500 hands. Oh well, I took 3 days off and read/re-read a lot of guides on here. I also ordered Theory of Poker and One of a Kind off of Stars FPP so once I get those I'll read em. Well anyway, here is today's update:

Week 2: Day 5



Anything in the green is good at this point. I didn't get to play as many hands as I would have liked, but I was in a rish so only had ~2 hours of play.

My stats are nittier than normal. I stoppepd cold calling with weak hands and limping in with hands like 56s/KJ etc etc in EP and instead just folded them. This is why my VPIP is ~2% lower. I also started limped 22-88 in EP instead of raising. Which is why my PFR is lower than usual. I want to see how this works out vs raising all PPs from all positions.

So far this week I have only played 5k hands so I have to play at least 5k more in the next 2 days. I am definetly not going to let a this downswing impact my 10k/week goal. Once again thanks to all who have commented and I hope it's just up, up, and up from here on out!

Originally Posted by Phantaroth

Giveme, can you help me with my poker tracker graph? How do I get the options for Hands 10^3, does it requrie a min. amount of hands? And how do i get the option for "Amount" I don't understand my graph options.

Hey there, sorry I didn't see your question. First off, do you have Poker Grapher? I don't make the graphs with PT, I make them with Poker Grapher. You can download it here: http://83.149.84.143/~muse/pokerpatternsv17.zip (thank sandstorm for the link). Once you install it, it's very easy to use. Hope this helps, if any more questions I'll be happy to try and help!

Week 2: Day 6



Another okay day. I'm still negative for the week by $100 or so. I hope tomorrow I can get to break even/green. Need to play around 3k hands tomorrow and I might even play a little game called "play as many hands as it takes to get out of the red." I guess we will see how I feel, but I really don't want to end the week negative. Damn 50nl and losing 5 stacks in 500 hands. I sure hope I don't run like utter shit my next shot.

A few hands:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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Hero ($24.55)
SB ($22.50)
BB ($41.95)
UTG ($23.75)
MP ($25)
CO ($26.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A. MP posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, MP folds, CO calls $2.75.

Flop: ($7.60) 5, J, T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($7.60) J (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $5, CO folds.

Final Pot: $11.60


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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Hero ($28.30)
Button ($22.40)
SB ($41.70)
BB ($23.75)
UTG ($24.75)
MP ($22.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, K.
UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, UTG folds, MP raises to $22.95, Hero calls $18.95.

Flop: ($46.50) 5, 5, 6 (2 players)

Turn: ($46.50) 9 (2 players)

River: ($46.50) 8 (2 players)

Final Pot: $46.50

MP has Ts Ks (one pair, fives).
Hero has Ad Kc (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins $46.50.

Villian is the same in both hands above, and these were back to back. His stats were 100/75/5 over 19 hands............ It sure felt good stacking him with A high.

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Button ($14.70)
Hero ($28)
BB ($5.25)
UTG ($13.60)
MP ($21.30)
CO ($12.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.75, BB calls $1.50, UTG folds, MP calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($9) 4, 9, J (5 players)
Hero bets $7, BB calls $3.50 (All-In), MP raises to $19.55, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls $12.55.

Turn: ($51.60) A (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($51.60) A (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $51.60

Hero has Qd Qs (two pair, aces and queens).
BB has 8d 8s (two pair, aces and eights).
MP has Qc Td (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $51.60.

I definetly didn't think I was winning that hand....

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BB ($21.30)
UTG ($43)
MP ($26.50)
CO ($8.25)
Button ($20.30)
Hero ($60.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4) 2, 4, J (4 players)
Hero bets $3, BB raises to $20.3, MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls $17.30.

Turn: ($44.60) 5 (2 players)

River: ($44.60) 8 (2 players)

Final Pot: $44.60

Hero has Jc Jd (flush, jack high).
BB has Th As (flush, jack high).
Outcome: BB wins $44.60.

lolz. The worst part about this is no matter even if the fish didn't go nuts I was destined to not win anything this hand. Before button folded he said "man I have 44," so my set over set would have tied.

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SB ($5.35)
Hero ($28.45)
UTG ($29.15)
MP ($30.75)
CO ($24.80)
Button ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.5, 2 folds, SB calls $0.40, Hero raises to $3.25, MP calls $2.75, SB folds.

Flop: ($7) 7, 8, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.5, MP raises to $9, Hero calls $4.50.

Turn: ($25) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $6.25, Hero raises to $16.2, MP calls $9.95.

River: ($57.40) Q (2 players)

Final Pot: $57.40

Hero has Js Jd (one pair, jacks).
MP has 8h 8s (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: MP wins $57.40.

Sigh, I had no reads and didn't really know what to do once min-raised on the flop.

Week 2: Day 7



Yeah yeah yeah... I know I know, I was suppose to play 3k hands. I woke up really late (around 1:30pm) and didn't get around to starting my session until 3pm. Because of this I only had about an hour and a half to play. I'm not too down about it though, I ran goot and I'm technically still at my goal for hands per month. I didn't play 10k hands this week but I still have over 20k for the month.

Week 2 Update:

So week 2 was extremely lame money wise, but it was necessary. It really taught me the need of having mental control when playing poker. It taught me that poker really is a long term game and the only way to make more money is to play more hands. Sure you could run HOT at 30 bb/100 your first 500 hands, but you can also run -20 bb/100 over the next 2k. I really appreciate the replies I had from everyone when I was running like shit and I am glad that I made is through the week:




I know I ran really bad at my first shot at 50nl, so bad to the point where it made me go crazy and want to quit all together. Losing $232 over 500 hands is nothing to some, but to me it was painful. Not only painful money wise, but because I made $405 my first week it made it seem like everything I did, all the time I put in, was going to waste. Long story short - I learned a lot.

Here is my graph over the first 2 weeks of Dec:



Now keep going up!! Tomorrow I will be gone all day out of town but Saturday is a clean slate and a new start!

Your rate is extremely solid right now, it's just skewed by your 50NL run.... those were some horrible beats.

How's it going? Any updates?

Originally Posted by gnads

How's it going? Any updates?

Don't mind me, nothing to see here.

Stopped playing?

Originally Posted by kmind

Stopped playing?

Kinda...

It kinda sucks because I really wanted this to happen, and I will start playing more but I've been busy with other things. Poker isn't my main income (and I don't think I'd ever want it to be) so when other things call, I must answer. But I'll finish this stupid thread someday!

Well folks, I figured it's about time to get my shit together again. I am still disapointed at myself for never finishing my old goal, but I had my reasons.

Some of you saw my thread about my business, and right around mid-December is when things started to pick up. This required a lot more of my time (and money) and turned my focus off of poker. From about December 15 until February 7th I have had more work and had more stress than I forsaw; everyone only has 24! But, I still feel I made the correct decision and although the business is still taking time, I'm finding myself with more free time again. Here is my current situation:

- I cashed out. I know I know. Stupid. I was really scraped for money, so I took out what was left of my bankroll.
- I am finding I have ~15 hours per week I can purely dedicate to poker. I am not sure if I will take all of this time, but I will play at least 10 hours/week.
- After saying that, my current bankroll stands at a staggering: $59.28.

Goals (I'll add more as I progress).
1) Play low buyin donkaments/ring to run my $59.28 up to $300 where I will switch to 25nl rull ring. I hope to reach this by March 1, 2007.
2) Play at least 10 hours/week (probably more) and record my stats here every day.

I guess you could call this my micro-grind challenge thread now. Everyone that reads this has the permission to slap me across the face if I do not update this at least every other day, so pay attention!

Okay I think that pretty much wraps it up. I hope I don't busto!

*slap* - pre-emptive cause I know you'll forget sooner or later and I don't wanna have to type it up later.

Originally Posted by THaC

*slap* - pre-emptive cause I know you'll forget sooner or later and I don't wanna have to type it up later.

I'll save this slap for when it's needed.

Day 1:

I really wish I could get Poker Tracker to work for sngs, but for whatever reason it's an unbelievablely complicated process (for me anyway.) I'm not one that usually finds it difficult to figure things out, but I can't seem to import them correctly. If anyone could help me out with this I'd really appreciate it. Anyway, here's my micro $3.4 turbo stats:

Donkaments played: 35
Total Buyins: $119
Total Winnings: $161
Net: +$42
ROI: 35.29%
Pre Bankroll: $58.88
Current Bankroll: $100.88

Donkaments are so easy compared to ring. All I have to do is push allin and cross my fingers, except my fingers really start to hurt.

Ciao for now.

gl legs!!! just dont withdraw

Originally Posted by givememyleg

I really wish I could get Poker Tracker to work for sngs, but for whatever reason it's an unbelievablely complicated process (for me anyway.)

Its simple enough.

Assuming PS: Import HHs as usual, from the "Tournament results - Manual entry", select auto-request summaries, let PT do its thing. Then you can select "Import hand histories/tournament summaries" and have it read the results from your email.

That said the latest PS update breaks the auto-request feature, see PT forums for the fix.

GL

Keep it up man! Don't get bogged down on the bad days, everyone seems to have them.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

gl legs!!! just dont withdraw

This shouldn't be a problem any longer! I finally have some other income coming in and the debt is decreasing so it's j ust grind grind grind!

Originally Posted by draylor

Its simple enough.

Assuming PS: Import HHs as usual, from the "Tournament results - Manual entry", select auto-request summaries, let PT do its thing. Then you can select "Import hand histories/tournament summaries" and have it read the results from your email.

That said the latest PS update breaks the auto-request feature, see PT forums for the fix.

GL

Yeah, I have my POP3 setup for gmail, but for some strange reason it does not detect the e-mail messages Stars is sending me. They are physically getting sent to me because I can see them in my inbox, however PT can not find them. /Shrug. I made a post about it in the PT forums so hopefully I can get it fixed. For now I learned how to manually import them, which would suck over time!

Originally Posted by litetruck

Keep it up man! Don't get bogged down on the bad days, everyone seems to have them.

Thanks man! I'm following your thread also, can't wait to see you move up in limits!

Just updating to let you know I didn't quit already. No poker today, but that's fine since tomorrow is free all day up until around 11pm. I hope to play for about 4 hours, which would roughly be about 40 donkaments.

Grind grind grind!

Good luck man, keep griding

Today's Results:



Not too bad, was going to try and squeeze in 10 more but have to do some work for the business tonight.

Operation total: +$75.40
BR: $133.28

Originally Posted by Kauf Jr.

Good luck man, keep griding

Ty, you too!

GL man! I used to grind out the SNG's as well. How many tables are you playing at once? I used to play about 2x SNG tables and 1x MTT table at the same time.

Originally Posted by silu_nz

GL man! I used to grind out the SNG's as well. How many tables are you playing at once? I used to play about 2x SNG tables and 1x MTT table at the same time.

It averages about 10. I am trying to work my way up to 18!

Get a roll soon. Those micro S&G's can fry your brain in a hurry. What's your immediate plans? Are you going to be a S&G player now if things go well? I know you can beat the $25NL stakes, do you not think the $10NL game on stars would be faster and easier? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this. You said $300 to move to $25NL, is that because your confidence in beating the game? I would tell anyone looking to grind a a BR to play $25NL they need $500 but less is acceptable if you can easily replace the lost money if you bust. Is that just your "I'll take a shot $$ figure".

It's funny, that when I read your posts on the move to $50NL, I had the same thoughts and feelings. Trust that you can beat that game. It's not much tougher. It's no different than the move from $10NL to $25NL. You just have to watch your tables. Don't stay sitting at a table just because. I don't care if I'm up a buy in or down a buy in. Once a player or two has switched out, I re-evaluate. GL, you have a lot of people backing you up. Don't give up on it.

Also, I will say this to anyone thinking of cashing out. This thread should show you what it can do to your poker "career". The absolute worst thing you can do when grinding Micro limits is cashout. Everyone has a reason to cashout. I have to sell my house because I'm falling too far behind. Sure I could cash out most of my $1300 and probably buy another 2 or 3 months of room, but how does that help? My $1300 could be $13000 in a year. That is a lot more help than any $1K could do for me now. I know Givememyleg started a business, and it will potentially give him more money than poker could, and that's fine. It's possibly one of the only reasons I would ever cashout my BR, to make more money, but for someone cashing out to pay phone bills, rent or just to pay living expenses is just prolonging there agony another month, keep grinding, get a job, and get to $100NL where small cashouts will mean something more than a one time $500 bill.