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  1. #376
    also a random comment about variance :

    today my closest poker friend - a 5 ptbb winner at 2-5 and 5-10 over his past 170k hands - dropped 12k at 2-5 and lower. The ev graph was pretty much a straight line towards break-evenville.

    seriously.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  2. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    also a random comment about variance :

    today my closest poker friend - a 5 ptbb winner at 2-5 and 5-10 over his past 170k hands - dropped 12k at 2-5 and lower. The ev graph was pretty much a straight line towards break-evenville.

    seriously.
    Blaah yah I heard/witnessed this on crypto.

    No more running bad boys! Time to turn things around.

    gl gen, and I applaud you for making school #1 priority. I can't do it.. this thesis is getting nowhere.. sigh. How's your stuff going?
  3. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    also a random comment about variance :

    today my closest poker friend - a 5 ptbb winner at 2-5 and 5-10 over his past 170k hands - dropped 12k at 2-5 and lower. The ev graph was pretty much a straight line towards break-evenville.

    seriously.
    Blaah yah I heard/witnessed this on crypto.

    No more running bad boys! Time to turn things around.

    gl gen, and I applaud you for making school #1 priority. I can't do it.. this thesis is getting nowhere.. sigh. How's your stuff going?
    I can see the light at the end of the tunnel

    Should be finished by early June. Man it's killing me to watch ppl grind 80k hand months and make the maniez, but I just really have to get this over with.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Thanks for offer . Just started up again after a couple months break and running hot atm. Havnt had a heap of tough hands, but this one I guess confused me as there were multiple options on every street:

    $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG titu49 ($20.97)
    UTG 1 reyes666 ($76.10)
    CO DyingWolf ($46.75)
    BTN Hero ($53.15)
    SB Calicles ($52.15)
    BB kaurty ($55.25)

    Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BTN
    titu49 calls $0.50, 1 fold, DyingWolf raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, 2 folds, titu49 calls $2

    Flop: ($8.25, 3 players)
    titu49 checks, DyingWolf bets $3, Hero calls $3, titu49 calls $3

    Turn: ($17.25, 3 players)
    titu49 checks, DyingWolf bets $6, Hero calls $6, titu49 calls $6

    River: ($35.25, 3 players)
    titu49 checks, DyingWolf bets $11, Hero calls $11, titu49 folds

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    No reads on either person beyond small sample stats suggesting DyingWolf as very laggy and titu as very loose passive. One of my things is where I might normally semi-bluff, but get offered good odds.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  5. #380
    Flop I c/r this hand fairly often, or lead out. As played, turn I call given the odds he's giving. River - he's not betting into two ppl here with worse than A high, so despite the odds we're getting, I fold here. If this was HU, I might call.
  6. #381
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    PFR acts before me on all streets. Its funny, if he bets say $5 on flop I probably raise him, but for only $3 into an $11 pot the odds just win me over. Do you think his range is weak enough and contains enough stuff that beats me but would fold to a river shove?
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  7. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    PFR acts before me on all streets. Its funny, if he bets say $5 on flop I probably raise him, but for only $3 into an $11 pot the odds just win me over. Do you think his range is weak enough and contains enough stuff that beats me but would fold to a river shove?

    I wouldn't get too fancy here, we don't know what the player left to act has. We could own ourselves bluff raising, if he's strong here. If you were last to act, its possible, but we aren't repping anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    PFR acts before me on all streets. Its funny, if he bets say $5 on flop I probably raise him, but for only $3 into an $11 pot the odds just win me over. Do you think his range is weak enough and contains enough stuff that beats me but would fold to a river shove?
    I've never given 'odds' as much thought as I probably should, but I seem to have the opposite reaction you do. When I see that small bet and I have an over and the NFD i'm just thinking about building the pot in position so I make it 13$ and it also often gives us an opportunity to see a free turn card that we can check behind if that is what we're feeling.

    I just call pre and I fold the river as you played it.
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    Yeah, this thought occurred to me too. If I read that small bet as weakness, then I add a lot of fold equity to my pot equity, meaning I should really be more likely to semi-bluff here than v's a std c-bet.
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  10. #385
    these guys know what they're talking about

    fwiw I had already seen this hand posted in your blog after offering to give out a thought process and I immediately was like wtf no flop raise

    maybe if I'm high in an hour or so I'll give some sort of mathematical rationale for the flop CR or lead

    hit me with another one of you want
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    Ok, I thought this was an interesting spot. Looks standard at first, but I think maybe stack sizes change things a bit.

    $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG dr-gonzo ($51.50)
    UTG 1 reijokinnas ($58.35)
    CO xxxspykexxx ($41.35)
    BTN Hero ($35.80)
    SB Ozka ($27.30)
    BB Gantsgorn30 ($49.00)

    Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BTN
    2 folds, xxxspykexxx calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, Ozka calls $2, Gantsgorn30 calls $1.75, xxxspykexxx folds

    Flop: ($7.25, 3 players)
    Ozka checks, Gantsgorn30 checks, Hero bets $4, Ozka raises to $8, Gantsgorn30 folds, Hero raises to $33.55, Ozka calls $17.05

    Isolation PF is v's a 50/5 serial limp/call/fold'er. Two guys who flat me are both kind of 30/10 type guys. No good reads beyond stats. I dont believe my A or 8 are valid outs, so I'm really only going for the flush, but I cant fold to the min-raise, and flatting with him being so short cant be good, but I'm about to stack off as a 30% chance. Maybe not c-betting is an option, but I think I have too much equity for that.
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  12. #387
    bj - If villain c/r you here was a full stack, I might even say flat his c/r. I don't think the 8 is a clean out all that often, and I don't think we have that much fold equity on this type of board. But given his stack, shovey shovey.
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  13. #388
    an interesting question is whether or not there s a point where playing the flop vs a short and vs a deep stacked opponent become similar facing the flop CR.

    as played there's nothing wrong with flatting the flop raise and evaluating the turn. he s usually not folding when you nut and may play passively if one of a million turn cards hit, giving you a free river (if a turn J, T, 9, 8, 7, K or Q doesn t improve his hand) so I think flatting the flop raise is def +ev.

    as to whether shoving is more +ev, we d have to know more about the villain to know what kind of range he s representing here since some ppl will raise this with a with variety of shit and some will only raise this with top 2 or better.

    without knowing that, we just have to assume he s somewhere in between, giving us something like 38% equity vs his CR range which easily justifies shoving with all the money in the pot but probably makes calling a better play just to fold the turn unimproved to a decent-sized bet
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    I assume he's got at least TP+draw or better. I dont remember having much of a read on him.

    If we call and he shoves turn we have to call $17 into a $23 pot, which isnt a hard fold with only 1 street to come, and we can call flop with $4 into $19 pot on pot odds alone. I think it comes down to FE and I really dont think I had any there.
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    Mind looking at one more?

    Villain in this hand is running at 15% 3-bet and high c-bet. Flop is a fairly standard attempt by me to exploit his range, good or bad? I know most bluffs without equity are bad, but his range is so wide here I figure I pick up the pot a lot and he cant continue with much. Then on turn I find myself with a PSB and backdoored a FD. Was confused how to handle it. I figured rather than push I'd put in a 2/3 psb and give myself odds to call if he shoves over. I figure I'm representing either a set or FD so he may find a fold here:


    $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($56.15)
    UTG 1 ($177.21)
    CO ($99.70)
    Hero (BTN) ($52.45)
    SB ($100.25)
    BB ($56.10)

    Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BTN
    3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $4.75, Hero calls $3.25

    Flop: ($9.75, 2 players)
    BB bets $4, Hero raises to $13, BB calls $9

    Turn: ($35.75, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB raises to $38.35, Hero calls $14.70
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  16. #391
    gotta run right now but interesting hand ; i ll think about it and respond soon.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  17. #392
    k i m pretty baked and exhausted right now after throwing a party but my first reaction is that preflop is o.k. to good, flop is meh to o.k. and turn is bad to meh. i ll try and spit something coherant out after I wake up.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  18. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    k i m pretty baked and exhausted right now after throwing a party but my first reaction is that preflop is o.k. to good, flop is meh to o.k. and turn is bad to meh. i ll try and spit something coherant out after I wake up.
    Which part of turn do you think is meh? I think once he bluff raises turn, he should certainly be continuing on this card. The call though... I'm not sure about.
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  19. #394
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    Spoke to Griffey about it. I think I like his line of calling flop and betting if checked to on turn, raising if he bets turn and a spade comes in, or just folding turn if it doesnt and he bets. Turn I have to call $15 into $90 after I bet, so I've got odds, unless of course he's either already hit or has a better FD (A or K). Is that what makes the call bad?
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  20. #395
    I prefer floating the flop to raising because we're repping sets and AA-KK as well as FD's and bluffs when we raise

    By just calling the flop we can rep a wide range of stuff as strong as TT or even JJ, depending on his preflop history/reads of you, and the BD Jhi FD will come in handy some % of the time. There's also the added benefit of him dbl barreling a K on the turn since our range looks like small pairs so often.

    Aggros don't care about monsters and just tend to put ppl on bluffs or draws so I think you'll see villain 3 bet shove a wide range of made hands here (prob 99+ and some good/spewy villains will 3 bet shove AQ or AK since you rarely have AK bluffing in this spot and they have good equity vs your overs + FD hands).

    I think the key to this hand is that I don't see most aggros who are used to playing 3 bet pots OOP (and this villain def qualifies based on OP) showing up on the turn here with many midstrength made hands (stuff like TT-QQ with no spade), since those will mostly shove AI on flop.

    If we could put lots of those midstrength made hands in villain's range on the turn then a decent-sized bet (like the one you made) would be good since the flush getting there is presumably a better thing for our range than his.

    If I had to guess at a range distribution for the aggro 3-bettor's bet-call line on the flop I'd suggest that it's polarized to monsters and floats with the bare A or K(less likely)hi backdoor spade draw. Based on this assumption, he's check-shoving his ENTIRE RANGE on this turn (since nothing makes ppl spazz out more than floating with then picking up a BDFD), pricing you in and dominating you.

    So as played I'd just check back the turn and bet the river for about half pot when checked to.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Thanks, lots to think about there.
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  22. #397
    just lost 7k vs a bunch of donks at 2-5 and lower playing late night my 2nd day back grinding after a bunch of school shit

    why does this always fucking happen
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  23. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    just lost 7k vs a bunch of donks at 2-5 and lower playing late night my 2nd day back grinding after a bunch of school shit

    why does this always fucking happen
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    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  24. #399
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    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  25. #400
    Oh man... that sucks dude.

    I took a week off and played my first session like 3-4 days ago and dropped like 6k in the first hour

    Poker variance knows when you're vulnerable!

    Good luck if you play today!
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  26. #401
    WTFFFF, I sat at your table for ~10minutes in which you proceeded to bust about 2 guys and were sitting with 400bb stacks when i left...

    sick
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  27. #402
    hehe thx guys. words can t describe how tilted I was last night. I owned hard in my first 2 sessions back then lost it all and then some in a single session... almost all to Geo (u know how that feels obv) and some guy who kept calling oop and check-shoving any pair, gutter etc vs my overpairs.

    the guy twice ran 200$ into 1500$ and then left. anyways it's over now... back to the grind baby.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  28. #403
    Oh man.. geo owns my life.... he runs like goddd.. moreso than Rav even!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  29. #404
    made it back and then some tonight. shipit.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  30. #405
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    made it back and then some tonight. shipit.
    lol obv

    nh
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  31. #406
    it helps sitting at plo w a 1400bb stack
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  32. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    it helps sitting at plo w a 1400bb stack
    lol sick... 200nl?
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    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  33. #408
    m hmm
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  34. #409
    If 55 hadn't lost to K7hh on 529hh for a 2.7k pot, I'd have had an awesome comeback session tonight. I was down a tonne at one point but for whatever reason didn't feel too stressed about it. Maybe the massive swing I had this week helped to be a bit equanimous in the face of more and more variance.

    I still don't have HEM running so I can't say how many hands I've played, but it's probably close to 20k in 5 days (something like 7k mpps) and I have to say it feels great.

    Plo has been amazing ; I've added hero calls to my basic set of tools. There's nothing as sick as playing late-night sessions vs drunk bastards who will literally never fold anything pre or postflop pre-river. For those of you who've been kept to the world of no-limit, a fish who chases stuff is a virtually limitless proposition in plo. Gutterball you say? Fuck the gutterball, he's got TWO back door FD's to go with it. I CALL.

    My results still haven't been all that good but I feel a hunger to play that is unlike anything I can remember for a very long time. Hopefully I can find time and run with this.

    Peace.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  35. #410
    So I doubled my online BR in about 12 days of playing after finishing up some school shit.

    Right now my main site just switched software and I'm kind of disappointed. Not only does the new software fking blow but I got my AA cracked in the ver first orbit trying it out!

    Either way, I won't be playing much between now and June. This sucks because I feel awesome about my game, both in NL and PLO but hopefully I can put in a few hands here and there and stay sharp for an intense summer grind.

    Gl at the tables.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  36. #411
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    Nice couple of weeks .

    Shitty software sucks .
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  37. #412
    man u have no idea

    as Griffey so eloquently put it, us Interpoker regs just went from awesome software, amazing support and good games to fk my life.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  38. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    man u have no idea

    as Griffey so eloquently put it, us Interpoker regs just went from awesome software, amazing support and good games to fk my life.
    godd damn we got ownnnnnd harrrrrrd ... fkfkkfkffkf
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  39. #414
    I'm kind of coming around on the switch of sites : I feel like the games are pretty damned good. The software still tilts me hard, but I spoke to support and they said they'll be working on changing that.

    On most sites, reassuring comments from support are empty, but Interpoker support is so legendary that I'm pretty pumped.

    HOWEVER, the most important news is that after miraculously saving my sportsbetting account, I WENT 0 FOR 8 IN YESTERDAY'S NCAA ACTION.

    I mean seriously, you have to try really really hard to blank 8 flips (I was betting point spread).
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  40. #415
    What did inter support say they were going to fix?

    I still haven't given Boss a go yet..... maybe today...
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  41. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24
    What did inter support say they were going to fix?

    I still haven't given Boss a go yet..... maybe today...
    the clutter around the betting menu. I like the greater speed of the new network and I think game selection is a little better. also it's not HUD compatible so ppl can't get stats as easily, which favours me since I don't use any.

    support said they'd had quite a few complaints about the betting menu and that they'd be looking into it.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  42. #417
    Not HUD compatible?? Wow... sooo not using Boss geez
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    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  43. #418
    ya that s kind of why I like it
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  44. #419
    Sooo from what i hear... Boss isn't compatible with HEM but it IS compatible with PT3.. so people definitely have stats I'd imagine!
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    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  45. #420
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24
    Sooo from what i hear... Boss isn't compatible with HEM but it IS compatible with PT3.. so people definitely have stats I'd imagine!
    wtv i don t think i ll be using stats anytime soon

    p.s. make sure to run bad in your HU matches
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  46. #421
    I've booked wins in 16 of my past 19 sessions.

    Winning constantly tends to help my game initially (I force things less, avoid spewy plays since I'm in no hurry to "give back" my winnings). I think, however, that I've crossed a threshhold into dangerous territory where I'm so used to pots getting shipped to me that I'm getting a bit careless.

    The past two times I played, I think I've gotten dangerously close to overaggro spewtardedness. I'm gonna have to watch this.

    GOGO GADGET NITBOT.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  47. #422
    glad to hear somebody is running hot, other than rav, haha. im going to be flying into montreal on the 24th of April, hopefully you guys are all around

    also, since when have you not used stats? ive never really understood that. i mean, i get why relying on stats too much is a bad thing, but wouldnt you gain at least something by having some stats? i just see it as something that cant hurt when kept in check, which im sure you would
  48. #423
    playing without stats forces me to avoid ever going into bot-mode

    sounds great for the 24th.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  49. #424
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    Just tried out the new Inter software and I dropped seriously like 6k euros in the first 2 hours on the site. I was seriously wondering if it was rigged until I made most of it back in the next 4 hours. It has so many bad things about it I can't name them, but the games are good for sure. If they can change a few basic things like how fucking fast it is (8 tabling is nigh impossible and even 6 tabling is a recipe for a timeout every fucking orbit) then maybe it will be bearable.

    It would suck to have to move all our rolls somewhere else when Inter has been so good to us
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  50. #425
    ya it s funny i ve kind of warmed to the software

    i guess that s normal for any site... plus their supposed to be getting resizeable tables soon.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  51. #426
    auto rebuy would be nice too
  52. #427
    Just had my 1st losing session since making that post about being careful not to spew. I have to say, it's been a pretty awesome run.

    I haven't gone robusto or anything, but I've managed to book a profit in something like 22 of 25 sessions, some small and some pretty decent-sized. It's been mainly at lowstakes since poker isn't my focus right now, but I have to say it's amazing what 3 elements have done for me :

    -fear of losing, hence only playing when the games compel me to
    -stakes that won't hurt even if I drop a few buyins (may seem counterproductive to above point, but minimizes tilt if things go bad)
    -leaving my ego completely at the door
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  53. #428
    ok gonna have to regroup after back-to-back meh sessions. made my 1st all-out spew in quite a while, 4 betting small then snap-calling a shove pre w A9s in a spot with no history (wtf??!!).

    just gotta keep it simple.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  54. #429
    hmm was up 6k on tonight s session then lost 25 consecutive BI s at plo
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  55. #430
    ok that was kind of pointless but one of my bigger days just turned into my biggest loss ever so all i wanna say is

    FUUUUUUUUUUCK
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  56. #431
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    hmm was up 6k on tonight s session then lost 25 consecutive BI s at plo
    wtf stop loss imo?

    what stakes were 25 buyins? grosss
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  57. #432
    he's baaaaack!!! +1 for big losing days yest

    yey
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  58. #433
    haha i was at some GOLDEN late-night tables and was sitting with 3.9k euros at a 2-4 table and 400bb + stacks at 3 separate 1-2 tables (so actually maybe i was up way more than 6k??? fk me) then lightning struck and i lost 3 consecutive 300bb pots at the 2-4 table with the nuts all in pre or on the flop (the worst was losing JJxx to KK xx ai on J26r for 2.2k euro pot) and suddenly BAM it s all gone on the 2-4 table.

    i tilt-left my other tables then as I was closing the software I forgot that I had 900 euros on ANOTHER 1-2 table and the biggest fish from the 2-4 table that had hit n run me decided to sit vs me.

    1 hour later he left with a 1500bb stack. it wasn t pretty.

    Shitty to hear you had a bad one yest too alex.

    Oh well, I m working off of 25 for 28 winning sessions since I started back up in mid august. Last night hurt but time to get back at it and grind away bitches.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  59. #434
    just reviewed that session mentally from last night and realized that I was up 7k euros at my high point, which makes it even sicker to think that I ended up down 5k euros, all at 1-2 and 2-4!!!

    i haven t been so hellbent on winning it back in a looooong time so I think I ll post in this thread with updates for my next 4 or 5 session on how i m feeling, just to write shit down and ensure that i m not getting tilty in that WINITBACKNOW mentality.

    not gonna move up instakes or anything (although it s pretty fkign tempting), just gonna try to stay with the simple, straightforward grind.

    update coming in a few hours
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  60. #435
    update after day 1 of recovery :

    just grinded about 4.5k hands and played pretty awesome. amazingly, biggest pot of the day was losing 1.1k euro PLO hand to a 1 outer but oh well, feel like I had my A game for a good portion of the huge grind.

    Made back some of last night s losses so hopefully i m back on the runhot bandwagon. also was fun watching Rav go deep in 4 tourneys including a win in the 100$ rebuy on interpoker and final table (as we speak) of the stars 33$ rebuy as well as 11th in the 100$ rebuy.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  61. #436
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    update after day 1 of recovery :

    just grinded about 4.5k hands and played pretty awesome. amazingly, biggest pot of the day was losing 1.1k euro PLO hand to a 1 outer but oh well, feel like I had my A game for a good portion of the huge grind.

    Made back some of last night s losses so hopefully i m back on the runhot bandwagon. also was fun watching Rav go deep in 4 tourneys including a win in the 100$ rebuy on interpoker and final table (as we speak) of the stars 33$ rebuy as well as 11th in the 100$ rebuy.
    Good job on the comeback dude! You should post some hands in the PLO section.

    Oh and good job Rav! You should get an OP imo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  62. #437
    have played really, really well the past few days and all I have to show for it is a mini-downswing. highlights include losing A5 to JJ ai on 2344 turn 250bb's deep and KK to KJ on AKQ board ai on flop 200bb s deep... AA is my biggest loser... ETC ETC BLAHBLAH RUN BAD

    but

    i m playing pretty fking well and not too worried. so i guess this is a win, not a fail. things will turn around.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  63. #438
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    have played really, really well the past few days and all I have to show for it is a mini-downswing. highlights include losing A5 to JJ ai on 2344 turn 250bb's deep and KK to KJ on AKQ board ai on flop 200bb s deep... AA is my biggest loser... ETC ETC BLAHBLAH RUN BAD

    but

    i m playing pretty fking well and not too worried. so i guess this is a win, not a fail. things will turn around.
    Where are you findin these donks that are stacking off so deep with such nonsense? geeez.. I miss those! stakes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  64. #439
    bossssssssssss

    mainly 2-4 euro but the beats lately have been at 3-6 euro
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  65. #440
    just grinded a pretty awesome awesome session

    i dropped 4k but I feel like I hit a new high point in my game.

    the losses aren t really worth talking about but, just in case ppl care about hearing about grossness, today s sesh at 2-4 and 3-6 included losing :

    AA to KQ ai pre in a blind war

    JJ to 66 vs the same guy ai pre in a blind war

    AK in a rr pot vs same villain AI on turn vs his 89 that called full pot on flop w gutter on K56 board and nutted turn

    losing 400bb s with sets vs draws AI on flop

    and biggest hand of the day was 3 betting the flop w 55 on 346dd board 2.6k euros deep at 3-6. villain calls and turn is offsuit 2

    i pot it for 800 (1.3 buyins on turn lol) and villain snaps

    riv is 6d completing flush and boat, villain insta shoves for 1.5k into 2.2k and I snap fold.

    the regs were all laughing about me 12-tabling and challenging me to HU deathmatches... I m chatbanned for some reason so too bad I can t keep up the smacktalk.

    Besides all of that, I finally feel like my confidence, hand-reading, tilt-control have come together so that I m willing to take on anybody at midstakes for as many hands as they want.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  66. #441
    Just played a few tables of 5-10 euro (about 1.7k usd). late night games looked golden and I destroyed them :



    there were lots of bluff river shoves and value ownage.

    i definitely felt like I had it coming after the way i ve run over the past 20k hands or so.

    shipit. funny thin is only about 400 hands from that graph are 5-10 and the rest are 1-2...
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  67. #442
    BossMedia Game #1785348836: Table Table TH 3689 - €5.00/€10.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:19:51 - 2009/09/24
    Seat 7: Sombrita!! (€2605.50)
    Seat 9: Push8Push (€143.35)
    Seat 10: HERO (€1082.00)
    Seat 6: SER-AR (€397.93)
    Seat 8: Klein (€2455.74)
    Sombrita!! posts the big blind of €10.00
    SER-AR posts the small blind of €5.00
    HERO is the button
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HERO
    Klein raises €35.00
    Push8Push folds
    HERO raises €98.75
    SER-AR folds
    Sombrita!! folds
    Klein calls €98.75
    *** FLOP ***
    Klein checks
    HERO bets €159.37
    Klein calls €159.37
    *** TURN ***
    Klein checks
    HERO checks
    *** RIVER ***
    Klein bets €398.43
    HERO goes all-in with €823.88
    Klein folds

    BossMedia Game #1785345835: Table Table TH 5885 - €5.00/€10.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:05:10 - 2009/09/24
    Seat 2: NoFoldem^^ (€1589.05)
    Seat 3: HERO (€1577.00)
    Seat 5: Alex4EveRR (€477.25)
    Seat 4: Sombrita!! (€1372.37)
    Seat 1: ed66 (€794.73)
    NoFoldem^^ posts the small blind of €5.00
    HERO posts the big blind of €10.00
    ed66 is the button
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HERO
    Sombrita!! folds
    Alex4EveRR raises €30.00
    ed66 calls €30.00
    NoFoldem^^ folds
    HERO calls €30.00
    *** FLOP ***
    HERO bets €71.25
    Alex4EveRR folds
    ed66 raises €142.50
    HERO goes all-in with €1547.00
    ed66 goes all-in with €764.73
    *** TURN ***
    *** RIVER ***
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot €1621.46 | Rake €3.00
    ed66 won (€0.00), mucks
    NoFoldem^^ won (€0.00), mucks
    HERO won (€1621.46), showed

    BossMedia Game #1785344894: Table Table TH 5885 - €5.00/€10.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:00:23 - 2009/09/24
    Seat 3: HERO (€1000.00)
    Seat 5: Alex4EveRR (€453.50)
    Seat 1: ed66 (€980.12)
    Seat 2: NoFoldem^^ (€1527.05)
    Seat 4: Sombrita!! (€1416.12)
    Alex4EveRR posts the small blind of €5.00
    ed66 posts the big blind of €10.00
    Sombrita!! is the button
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HERO
    NoFoldem^^ folds
    HERO raises €35.00
    Sombrita!! folds
    Alex4EveRR folds
    ed66 calls €35.00
    *** FLOP ***
    ed66 bets €75.00
    HERO raises €243.75
    ed66 calls €243.75
    *** TURN ***
    ed66 bets €281.25
    HERO goes all-in with €721.25
    ed66 folds

    BossMedia Game #1785345272: Table Table TH 3010 - £5.00/£10.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:02:21 - 2009/09/24
    Seat 1: HERO (£1017.00)
    Seat 2: NoFoldem^^ (£2526.50)
    NoFoldem^^ posts the small blind of £5.00
    HERO posts the big blind of £10.00
    NoFoldem^^ is the button
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HERO
    NoFoldem^^ raises £25.00
    HERO raises £80.00
    NoFoldem^^ calls £80.00
    *** FLOP ***
    HERO bets £120.00
    NoFoldem^^ calls £120.00
    *** TURN *** 8c:
    HERO bets £200.00
    NoFoldem^^ calls £200.00
    *** RIVER ***
    HERO goes all-in with £617.00
    NoFoldem^^ folds
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  68. #443
    grinded a few K hands early this morning and felt great. ran bad but made the maniez.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  69. #444
    oh man... ppl are the hugest spazzjobs lol.

    First AK hand, I think that is a horrible board to cbet, and you're almost never getting a fold and getting jammed a lot. You plan on b/c? River is... the kind of spazzy thing i'd do haha. Risky after his sizing though, I'd prob like it more if he bet less.

    QJ hand - haha nice... I guess he had AJ or JT or something.

    8Thh hand is weird - I mean you have direct odds to flat turn, but I suppose s hoving can't be bad if you actually do have FE, which apparently you do. Spazzzes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  70. #445
    +19k in the past 24h hours
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  71. #446
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    +19k in the past 24h hours
    lol sick.. shippp it. how many hands?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  72. #447
    prob about 5k
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  73. #448
    looool

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  74. #449
    [x] chasing losses at higher stakes ftw
  75. #450
    btw griff in the AK hand from above I m not worried about winning the hand all that often on the flop...
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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