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 Originally Posted by Silly String
Great thread Max. I appreciate the time you put into this thread.
Here is my HH for the Q & A:
I've run into this situation a few times lately, where the turn bet/raise is either going to commit us or I can just shove. I don't want to fold out worse hands with an overbet, but I hate calling a river where I'm likely beat.
Unfortunately I don't have a great read here since I'm fairly new to the table. My image must be TAG and I'm playing tight. The villain here is loose and aggressive, probably about 50/15, aggressive but not a maniac post flop. He likes to call in position with any 2 suited or connecting cards.
On the turn do you push him all in or raise a callable amount with the intention to get it all in on the river regardless?
Note: With a high set, I'll sometimes slow play into an uncoordinated board(Please do not make this the emphasis of your critque unless it would help the hand dramatically).
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($7.85)
UTG ($27.45)
MP ($8.90)
Hero ($10.40)
Button ($9.30)
SB ($9.75)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q  , Q  .
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.5, Button calls $0.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.40.
Flop: ($1.65) 3  , Q  , 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button bets $1, UTG folds, Hero calls $1.
Turn: ($3.65) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.5, Hero raises to $5, Button calls $3.50.
River: ($13.65) T (2 players)
Hero bets $3.9 (All-In), Button calls $2.80 (All-In).
Final Pot: $20.35
This is another reason why i don't like slowplaying, especially OOP: your hand becomes very obvious on later streets and also is hard to play. I'd just bet the flop, the turn, and the river.
But you did slowplay, which isn't bad, so i'll comment on how it plays out. The button bets on the flop, but that doesn't necessarily mean that much because with two checks in front of him he could be betting a wide range. It's fine to just call this bet, but i'd probably lead the turn 2.4 or so. If he has a hand like a set or two pair that he's going to stack off with, he'll raise you and you can just push. If he doesn't, well he would probably be checking behind anyways or betting and folding to a c/r. However, with the lead you can get possibly value from the turn and river. If he calls the turn lead i'd value bet the river.
As for c/r the turn, i'm fine with the c/r size as long as you push the river. I'm not sure why you think you're possibly beat on this river, pushing will get a lot of calls from weaker hands that would've otherwise checked behind.
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