love your attitude nibbles. hope everything goes well for you at the tables.
12-02-2008 03:51 PM
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love your attitude nibbles. hope everything goes well for you at the tables. | |
12-02-2008 05:55 PM
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Thanks Ryokan. I see you're new to the site. I'm fairly new myself. Welcome. |
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12-03-2008 02:23 AM
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Yawn. Just got eliminated in 25 cent MTT. Finished in 29th place out of 3000+ players. Still can't final table, Oh well. Played a few hands of ring game but didn't amounnt to much. End of day bankroll id $37.21. I am sooooo tired. Tomorrow will bve rough day. |
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12-03-2008 03:25 PM
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1st one ever. Had to post. And u wouldn't believe the weak hand opponent stacked off with. Gotta luv the penny tables. This hand got my roll back up to forty, btw. |
12-04-2008 04:25 AM
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Actually, I have a question about this. Is it better to play many tables at once? Or is it better to keep grinding away at one table? I mean you have more hands to play at many tables but then again, playing at one table will save your bankroll from taking a lot of hits? Any ideas on this? |
12-04-2008 08:23 AM
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Well Nibbles, your bankroll building scheme sounds much more reasonable than the last guys. He made it sound like he was doing it just to do it, but you on the other hand are doing it because you know you can take a loan from a friend and turn it into cold hard cash. Just watch your ass so that way variance doesn't find you and hit you in the back of the head again. I have tried what you are doing numerous times and once i get the roll up to like 50-100 bucks i get stupid and play bigger games instead of proper BR management. So don't make the same mistake as me, remember that the swings in no limit are hard and heavy and if variance begins to whoop on you, just go play limit for the day. It helps, trust me. I am now back in the online poker groove and have been steadily cashing in freerolls trying to build a 100 dollar bankroll and then i can start playing for real. I hope yours goes much quicker and i will keep an eye on your blog. Good luck |
12-04-2008 01:13 PM
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LOL WOW thanks chadherczeg. "Im just doing it just to do it' huh? Man glad you know me SOO well that you can just make assumptions about me. Thats good. For your information I might be doing if just for a hobby for now, but if things go good it can turn into a side/primary income. I don't think there is anything wrong with having poker as a hobby and grinding a small amount into something bigger. | |
12-04-2008 05:24 PM
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12-04-2008 10:59 PM
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Big nothing of a session. Small pot pokered my way up to a little over $42 but some luckbox chased his gutshot to snatch my meager but hard earned profits. End of day roll is $39.24. Was pretty much card dead this session. Hey, can't win everyday. |
12-05-2008 03:33 AM
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Well i JUST did my first session of multi tabling on Wednesday/Thursday morning (four tables), and at first it IS weird. I think i prefer it just for the simple fact that say you are card dead on ONE table (like you were today nibbles) well on another table you could be running HOT and be raking. And on another you could be running a lil below and another a lil above. | |
12-05-2008 04:23 PM
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Played a quick session and ground out a buck and some change. Then I decided ro read my thread top to bottom, and I noticed I planned on playing SnG's when my roll got up to $30, but I forgot. So I played my 1st SnG since my return and I took 1st place in a 9 handed $1.20. It was soooooo sweet because some luckbox playing push and catch poker jumped out to a 5000+ chip stack early. He couldn't miss and was talking (typing) a ton of smack. He constantly attacked my blinds and pretty much bullied the table. I just played my game, no stress. Long story short, he and I are heads-up and he has a 2-1 chip advantage. He won more pots but I won the big ones. We were heads-up for about 15 minutes before I was finally able to drop the hammer on him for the win. I had forgotten how much fun sit 'n goes are (when you are running good). I will take the same buy in approach that I do with MTTs. I grind out my buy ins on the ring games, then I play. |
12-05-2008 04:39 PM
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I should have finished reading my thread before I jumped into SnG. This was actually my 2nd SnG since my return to online play (not that it matters). I broke my rule of playing SnG while bankroll was below $30 and I lost (deservingly so). Oh well, that was then. |
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12-06-2008 12:22 AM
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Came back home, still feeling good about my little SnG victory and decided to play another one. Finished 4th. No big deal. Got in a 2nl ring game and just wasn't feeling it. My pocket queens went down to opponents pocket kings. I only lost $1.50 on that hand (I buy in for $5) so that's a positive. I take this as a sign not to play anymore tonight. I had a few beers, far from drunk, but there's always tomorrow. Bankroll is at $41.52. The $50 odor isn't as strong as it once was. |
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12-06-2008 02:03 AM
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12-06-2008 03:07 PM
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Welcome back Slevin. U caught me at a bad time. I've got a bad case of second best. My roll is back down to $35.08. Almost 10 bucks in two days, that's the worst downswing for me so far, and I'm gonna play again tonight. I've been doing a good job of recognizing the good players, but like I've said before, the maniacs get the best of me. Look at these two hands. |
12-06-2008 03:31 PM
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As I sit here stewing about my loss (can't call it a bad beat because I was behind the entire hand, but for some reason it feels like a bad beat), it is finally starting to sink in what makes a good poker player good. I mean, everyone is a good poker player when they are getting good cards, but how do you play when you aren't getting the cards. Right now I feel like breaking all my rules and playing SnG's or move up to 5nl to recover my loses quickly. But that would be the move of a bad player. I feel like playing right now, but that would be a bad move as I am still upset. Can't let emotions rule my game. Results aside, was that a bad call? The pot only had 57 cents, I was far from pot comitted with less than the nutz. Alot to learn. |
12-06-2008 03:36 PM
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Another bit of insight, when I win I like to savor the victory. I like walking away up for the session / day. But when I lose I wanna get right back in there and try to win my money back. That has definitely got to be the sign of a loser. Wanting to play when losing but not when winning. Hmm. |
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12-06-2008 04:46 PM
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Nibbles i had the same problem for idk how long dude. Trust me. To this day I STILL want to leave whenever i rake in a good sized pot, but I've started to get over that. At first I just had to MAKE myself stay at the table. And in the end I would usually end up with A LOT more money then what i would have had had i left the table early. | |
12-06-2008 04:52 PM
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12-06-2008 09:30 PM
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12-06-2008 11:45 PM
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12-07-2008 04:26 PM
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Harley, Slevin, Dranger, Thanks for your posts. I think it helps with my progress when I see others have had the same struggles and are handling them. I've given more thought as to why I'm quicker to leave when ahead than behind. Losing sucks. But losing when you WERE ahead really bites the big one. Like in a casino, everybody is a winner, they just don't leave that way. Walking out shaking their heads wondering why they didn't quit while ahead. But poker isn't a casino game where they house has a huge edge. I've got to adjust my mindset to really profit from this fact. The days where I am hitting flops and my hands are holding up, I limit my play to protect my profits, but the days "luckboxes" are sucking out on me I extend my play trying to recover my losses. I see now that this is bass ackwards. I saw an interview with Phil Ivey on YouTube where he spoke about how long he played when winning versus losing. Seemingly apparent, but for me it wasn't. |
12-08-2008 02:55 PM
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Yesterday's seesion was a big nothing. Dropped my roll down to $33.07. But today is a new day!!! Grinded out a 200+ hand session (I don't multi-table so that's alot) and ran fairly well. Not only did I hit a few sets, but I got paid off as well. My roll sits at $43.05. It feels great to recover. I'm only taking a short break and then I am starting a new ring session at a new table. I wasn't really ready to leave the table but two guys who have taken my money before got in seats behind me for full buy in. So I ran like a little b*tch, I wasn't about to give up my hard earned profits. At a new table they have to take it 3 bucks at a time. |
12-08-2008 03:50 PM
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Dude u should just TRY 2 tables at once and do u use auto top off? i JUST started using both of these things and my profits increased by leaps and bounds. I think maybe try 2 tables for half hour to an hour. Evaluate after you're done and see if you want to continue doing it you know? | |
12-08-2008 04:18 PM
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I've tried 2 tabling before but it was a wash at best. Win some on one table, lose some on the other. And that was best case scenario. I don't mind playing one table at a time. I watch TV while I play (any action I miss, I just replay the hand), so multi-tabling would be too much. Maybe in the future. |
12-08-2008 10:48 PM
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No way I make 700 hands tonight. Guests showed up and spent time with them. Played a few hands but not into it, made 39 cents. Gonna call it a night at the tables. Will just scroll through the threads and get ready for this weeks FTR freeroll on Stars. My bankroll could use the padding. |
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12-09-2008 03:19 PM
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Ok, today is the day I will hit 700 hands. I just knocked out a seesion of almost 140 hands. Roll is up to $47.18. |
12-09-2008 06:03 PM
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These dollar donkeys are getting on my last nerve. 2NL players know them. Buy in for $1 and it's an all in fest. Like roaches they are overrunnung the tables. I keep having to change tables this session b/c of them. They just cost me a sweet pot. I had 44 in the BB but 3 of them go all in (not a raise-reraise all in, just all in into a $0.03 pot). Of course I can't call since best case I'm looking at 4-6 overcards. Would have flopped my set and cleaned up. Lord I can't wait till my roll can handle 5NL. Gotta take a break cause I'm pissed. Idiots! |
12-09-2008 06:19 PM
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nibbles, if you had called the flop would have been different. (not a joke post) Plus, these types of players are at all limits. | |
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12-09-2008 09:06 PM
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12-09-2008 10:34 PM
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12-09-2008 11:42 PM
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12-10-2008 09:18 AM
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Nice edits. I made the correct play, be satisfied with that. Wasn't a whine, though. Justa short piece on table selecttion. |
12-10-2008 10:38 AM
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12-10-2008 04:30 PM
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Small pot poker'd my way to the $50 mark, but my set of 7's (pocket pair) got rundown by a str8 chaser. Anyway, after 154 hands and a rundown, I am taking a breather. Roll sits at $48.80. |
12-10-2008 06:14 PM
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I'm done with ring games for the day. my KK ran into AA and got felted. I will play 1 $1 SNG, then a 50 cent MTT, and possibly the 25 cent MTT if I get knocked out early. Can't win everyday. Not too long ago my roll dropped down to the low $30's, but I recovered. Normal swings of the game. Roll at $45.80. No stress. |
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12-10-2008 06:43 PM
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I'm not even gonna play remaining MTTs. Save my money for tomorrow. In my SNG my KK ran into AA again!!! That has got to be a sign. Gotta be. I wasn't pissed b4, but now I am fully on tilt. If I kept playing now I'd pretty much be throwing it away. Till tomorrow. |
12-10-2008 07:40 PM
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I read a few other threads and I realize I focus too much on my bankroll. I am only down 1 buy in after over 200 hands of play. I am being extremely unreasonable with unrealistic expectations. Losing is a fact of playing poker. One has to lose, period and I need to deal with it better. I am not the only person this type of things happen to, and for others it is usually for a whole lot more money. I feel better now and am about to enter another ring game. Play my game and deal with the outcome. No more cry baby bullcrap. |
12-10-2008 11:11 PM
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Ahhh.... You have just matured as a poker player with that last post nibbles. It took me losing damn near my entire roll to realize what you have. Now, I don't tilt for ANYTHING unless I get a BUNCH of RIDICULOUS beats put on me, at which point I go to youtube and watch funny vids lol. | |
12-11-2008 05:39 AM
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12-11-2008 02:53 PM
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Got a lot more hands in last night, but not much success. Roll is at $42.27. I will play only 1 session and 1 buy in today. I will also play the 50 cent MTT. That's it. I will limit my play when running bad. |
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12-11-2008 04:24 PM
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Dont limit your play when running bad, unless you feel its overly affecting your game. Just suck it up and make sure u get in there and play your a-game (says me whos just a big whinger when im losing lol). | |
12-11-2008 11:43 PM
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12-11-2008 11:52 PM
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Feeling pretty good. Placing 4th in the FTR freeroll puts my roll at $51.42. Feels good to hit the $50 mark. The sad thing about the freeroll is that a bunch of outsiders cracked the password and jumped in. I was looking forward to mixing it up with rilla and flomo and those guys. Somebody even put up a portion of their bankroll as a bounty for knocking him out of tourney. That would have been a ton of fun. Oh well. I was the last FTR person to be eliminated. I doubt our experienced regs gave their A-game when those freeroll hunters flooded the tourney and started donking it up. U know how they play freerolls. I am soooooo looking forward to the next event. Hopefully they do a better job of password protection, so we can mix it up amongst ourselves and see who's really who!!! |
12-11-2008 11:55 PM
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12-13-2008 01:51 PM
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Played a little poker last night. Played some ring to grind out a buy in for $1MTT, then finished 400+ place for an essential double up. Roll sits at $53.82. About to start a session. Although I really feel like jumping up to $5nl I wont. I now fully understand how crucial it is to have a proper roll for the stakes that you play. And not just from a mathematical standpoint (variance), but mental as well. I stop playing "my game" and revert back to the tight-passive style I used to play when I had a $5 bankroll. Being properly rolled allows me to call the 5xBB raise with 22 even though I missed the last 12 flops with pocket pairs. Proper roll allows me to raise opponents c-bet because I "think" he missed the flop. I now understand the real value of a proper bankroll and how it impacts your play at the table. I know for all you guys it is "no duh" but for me it is "click". I planned on moving up whe I hit $65, but now I think I will make it $90. Boy, do I have a long way to go. Back to the grind. |
12-13-2008 08:50 PM
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Played another short ring session to win the buy in for an MTT. Didn't cash for the 1st time in a while. Finished 542 but tourney paid 360. I said no more whining, so I wont even post what happened, but gat damn these players drive me crazy!!! Built up a nice stack too, but anyway. Maybe I should move up to the $2 MTT. At what buy in do you see a noticable difference in MTTs? I noticed that some of the low stake MTTs ($5-$19) they start u off with 3000 chips. That would be a great experience b/c your allowed to play more actual poker. |
12-13-2008 09:12 PM
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What are you jelous of nibbles? to 'outluck' someone you have to have had your money in bad in the first place, is this really something you would like to be doing? This grind is hard but it's more a test of your character and discipline than anything else. You probabally already know by now that poker skill wise, you can pick up what you need to beat 2nl by following these forums and reading for 1-3 days. What you can't pick up by reading is the quality of character and discipline of mind needed to succesfully develop a bankroll, that has to come from within you. |
12-13-2008 10:22 PM
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12-13-2008 10:43 PM
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I think u guys missed my point. It's ok to play poker for fun every now and again. The grind can get to you after a while. So as opposed to playing 25NL or 50NL, I dropped down to ten cent tourneys. $0.10. Dimes. Just to have a little fun. Test my luck. Gambowl a little bit. As long as I'm not risking a significant portion of my roll (which i'm not in these dime tourneys) its kool and the gang. I never said I was going to play outside of my bankroll. I specifically stated I wouldn't. If you are refering to me possibly playing $2 MTTs, my bankroll can handle that. |
12-13-2008 11:58 PM
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Wow guys some great advice guys. Goodluck to you nibbles, you will be at 5nl in no time |
12-19-2008 01:46 PM
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Yo nibbles where u at? I noticed you haven't posted in almost a week. You haven't gone and donked ur roll of at 25nl like I almost did have ya? | |
12-19-2008 06:45 PM
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LOL!!! No Dranger. I took a break. Been busy X-mas shopping and all that crap. All done now though. Played a little last night and some more today. My roll is up to $58.99 and I'm feeling fine. I was playing everyday and I see now that it was too much. I got to the point where I was just going through the motions and not playing poker. Not the case now though. Picked off two bluff attempts for big pots today b/c I was paying attention. Breaks are needed. But this weekend I will log hella hours at the tables. I feel recharged. Still grinding! |
12-20-2008 04:11 PM
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Good to hear. Keep it up man! I took a break last week after a pretty shitty downswing, but I started playing again Monday and I feel a LOT better about playing again. Hopefully we both break into 5nl around the same time! | |
12-21-2008 04:16 PM
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Touched the $60 mark twice but couldn't maintain. Roll is down to $54 and change. I am officially on tilt. Suck outs are killing me. It's back to the times of whatever my opponent needs they catch. 1 outers, 2 outers, whatever. Small pot poker my way to profit and then... The inner peace from a week long break negated by a weekend of running bad. Oh well. |
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12-24-2008 11:35 AM
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Roll is at $57.11. Haven't been playing as much poker due to the season. Nothing to do today so plan on playing a bunch. Last night I had a very good poker experience. I was at a table and my KK went down to AA dropping my stack from $4.50 to $1.53 (I buy in for $3). Of course I got upset, but I didn't leave (which I usually do) and I didn't tilt. I just played my game and grinded back up to 5 bucks. That felt good. |
12-24-2008 04:21 PM
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Hey Nibbles it's been awhile since I checked in on ya. Looks like over all you've been doing well. Glad to see the BR growing and sounds like you're growing as well. | |
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12-25-2008 07:52 PM
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Why do you buy in for $3 ??? | |
12-26-2008 02:23 AM
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Hey Harley! I only play 1 table at a time. I haven't had success playing more than one table. Boredom isn't an issue for me as I watch a sporting event (MMA kicks ass, Go Giants, pray for the Knicks) or bootleg movies over the internet while I play. |
12-26-2008 03:06 AM
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Nice work man! I've been sick lately (still am actually) but i put in a short session tonight and broke the $40 mark (again). I'm hoping this time I can actually maintain it and get it going in the right direction. Things have been a lil hectic with Christmas and all that but ah well. Now that the holidays are almost over hopefully I'll have some more time to play. Good luck on breaking $70 tomorrow. | |
12-26-2008 11:07 AM
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But in the future you will be forced to play with 100BB max. So why not start getting used to the bet sizing and what not now??? | |
12-26-2008 11:58 AM
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Get well soon Dranger. Sick during the holidays sucks testes. Can't even use a sick day. |
12-26-2008 07:45 PM
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I really have no idea how I'm turning a profit. Luckboxes have so much success against me. These guys are re-raising me to catch their runner-runner to beat me. It's like they are psychic and predict that both cards they need are coming. Small pot pokered my way to almost $69 (hours of grinding), finally catch my monster hands and luckboxes suck me down. Roll is at $64.35. I should have just left the damn table. I'm taking a break now to cool off. I now that it happens to everyone, but it happens to me all the time, no exaggeration. It is almost like I'm being set up. Grind, grind, grind, ok. Here Nibbles. Here is your monster hand... haha, didn't hold up. And it's not an obvious draw that you might get away from. No sir. It is a "how did you call my flop and turn bets" one outer or runner-runner. Anyway, screw it! |
12-26-2008 08:27 PM
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12-26-2008 10:28 PM
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12-26-2008 11:54 PM
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I live in Queens. Good to see fellow New Yorker around the forums. | |
12-27-2008 12:02 AM
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12-27-2008 01:15 AM
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I hear you guys. I can appreciate the benefits of multi-tabling, but the times I've tried I either lost or broke even (win some on 1 table, lose some on the other). No stress playing 1 table. I am satisfied with that for now. When I am "crushing" the micros I will expand my game and add more tables, but for now it is Kool n' the Gang. |
12-27-2008 03:03 PM
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Just completed a big nothing session. Got felted when my TPTK went down to a set, then spent the next few hours grinding it back up. Role is at $64.30. Gonna get something to eat then do another session later tonight. I really want to hit the $70 dollar mark this weekend. |
12-27-2008 08:37 PM
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Evening session not so good either. Dropped $1 at a ring game, then played $1 MTT. Finished in 340 something place for a double up. Built up a nice 10,000 chip stack until my QQ ran into AA (how many times can that happen, rash of those things for me lately), then my TPTK went down to overpair. Ended the tourney on the losing side of a race (my AJ suited vs 88). No surprise. At least I cashed, but so disappointed. One has to be lucky to win a MTT, and I definitely ain't that. |
12-28-2008 10:20 AM
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This morning I made my 1st final table in a MTT. I don't know if I can really count this because it was only the 10 cent 360 man turbo. But a final table nonetheless. I finished in 4th place and won $2.80. |
12-29-2008 12:52 AM
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Up and down session. Logged just under 200 hands. Decided to end on the up. Roll is at $69.25, just short of my $70 goal. I figured I'll call it a night b4 I lose a few dollars trying to win 75 cents. I am pretty much done grinding for the day. I will play one 10 cent tourney then go to bed. See I f I can make another FT. |
12-29-2008 03:17 PM
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The poker gods are smiling on me. I think I will play my first $2 MTT today as it seems luck is finally on my side. Played a little over 100 hand session and up a buy in (I forgot to change my buyin from $3 to $2). Roll is at $71.57. Taking a break now as a bunch of LAGGs have overrun the tables. That's another problem I have with 2NL. Players constantly come and go changing the dynamic. Tables break up often also. I've noticed that is not the case in 5NL. |
12-30-2008 12:02 AM
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12-30-2008 02:45 AM
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Was steaming so much I couldn't fall asleep (I might have a problem if losing $3 bothers me so much, and it's not even about the money) so I played a 10 cent 360 man turbo. Finished in 2nd place. Had a slight chip advantage heads-up but couldn't maintain. It has been so long since I played heads up. I don't even remember how I won the Heads up tourney so long ago. I don't even like playing 6 max/shorthanded these days, much less one on one. |