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  1. #1

    Unhappy Operation: Build the Game (was: 100NL)

    (edit: I revised short term goals - they are good but not tangible, and BR is too nitty because my shitty dayjob provides me with basic needs. I don't have to withdraw to buy food/pay rent so I can lower BR.)

    Bankroll req (modified)

    10NL: 30BI (drop down at 20)
    25NL: 40BI (drop down at 30)
    50NL: 50BI (drop down at 40)
    100NL: we'll see at €5k mark.

    Starting roll for today: €1167

    I put such a big number of buyins for couple of reasons:
    - boss network players are baddish but pretty aggressive
    - I'm risk averse
    - deepstack tables
    - my job income sucks, so I need to boost it with withdraw €100/month
    - when I complete my operation, I will be ready to quit job and go pro, at least to the time when I gather funds to start my own company.

    Withdraw handicap: €100/month, because my paycheck amount is laughable and without some basic "having fun in life" I will just go crazy. But I won't withdraw, when it will lower bankroll to dropdown value. Maintaining stakes is the most important thing.

    Primary longterm goal:

    Build well rounded tight aggressive game, that is enough to beat 100NL full ring games.

    Secondary goal:

    Beat 100NL FR on Boss network for more, than 4PTBB/100 8-tabling and maintain 20k hands/month


    20k hands x 0.08bb/hand x €1/bb x 4PLN/€ = 6400PLN


    It's more than enough to live comfortably with budget:

    2000PLN to growing bankroll ("if you withdraw without growing your bankroll you'll finally go broke" - SmackinYaUp)
    1000PLN to investing in low risk assets (because I already got one high risk asset lol)
    3400PLN to live comfortably in my poor-ass country.

    So I'll play some €10nl, to refresh my strategies and complete roll requirements, after that I will post some hands in order to improve strategy and learn.

    8-10 hours of play per week (avg 2h/working day, 2 days off).

    Jumping up stakes rules:
    - reducing multitabling to 4 tables in first 20k hands (learning and improving winrate), then 8 tables (improving hourly rate)
    - game selecting to avoid tougher unknown regs
    - stop loss at -2BI of bad plays, tilt, or when I feel I'm just getting owned

    After sessions I will be posting some hands to brag/comment/critique/analysis/etc.
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-25-2010 at 06:34 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  2. #2
    First session went as bad as it could.

    1k hands, 5 buyins down, to €1105, but my play wasn't that bad except maybe one river call in small pot. Mostly coolers, set vs set, aces cracked, missed flops and challenged c-bets etc.

    Everytime I start operation, the very next sessions I get owned, wtf.

    I'm going to stick to 10nl until I get €1250 roll, because it's time to get down to basics.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  3. #3
    gl sire
  4. #4
    Good luck to you sir. Hope all goes well!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vrax View Post
    Goal: Beat 100NL FR on Boss network for more, than 4PTBB/100 8-tabling.

    Bankroll req (yes, I'm bankroll nit):
    10NL: 40BI
    25NL: 50BI
    50NL: 75BI
    100NL: 100BI

    I put such a big number of buyins for couple of reasons:
    - boss network players are baddish but pretty aggressive
    - I'm risk averse
    - deepstack tables
    - my job income sucks, so I need to boost it with withdraw €100/month

    (edited: those requirements are so fucking nitty that I'll probably cut it down, maybe 40/50/60/70 would be better, what do you think? )

    Starting roll: €1150

    So I'll play some €10nl, to refresh my strategies and complete roll requirements, after that I will post some hands in order to improve strategy and learn.

    8-10 hours of play per week (avg 2h/working day, 2 days off).

    Jumping up stakes rules:
    - reducing multitabling to 4 tables in first 20k hands (learning and improving winrate), then 8 tables (improving hourly rate)
    - game selecting to avoid tougher unknown regs
    - stop loss at -2BI or when I feel I'm just getting owned

    After sessions I will be posting some hands to brag/comment/critique/analysis/etc.
    I'm not a math wizzz at all but I'm confused about your BR. You said you'll be starting with 1150 and play 10nl until you fulfill BR requirements? What am I missing?

    Other point is you have set a stop loss (not that I totally agree with this) of -2bi's but then in your first update you're down 5bi's. Not ragin on ya just pointing it out. Was this a decision you made to make an exception to your rule or did you lack the discipline to adhere to your own rule? If the later is true then you need to work on that, otherwise it's all good.
    "You start the game with a full pot o’ luck and an empty pot o’ experience...
    The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."

    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX View Post
    Do you have testicles? If so, learn to bet like it
  5. #5
    About stop loss - yeah, I close tables after losing two stacks, Usually it happens, after few lost medium pots, some bad decisions, too light calls etc. This time, it was mainly instant destacking by set over set in first 15 minutes, then two biggish pots:

    AA<KQs, pot flop, 1/2 turn, got rivered, led 15bb blocker, cry-called minraise on scarish board.

    AA<some rags, PFR, pot flop, shove turn, rivered.

    JJ on T9x board: got it in vs 60bb stack in raised pot, but the opponent's line screamed he had a one pair beat (passive stats, donk lead, minthreebet, shove flushed turn which I called without redraw).

    I should close down after that, but got tilty, started to play my C-game, it wasn't enough to reduce losses. Maybe it's because I started this thread and I tried too hard to win and post some bragging hands. Ego got in the way and I paid for it. Lesson learned.

    About roll requirements: those are minumum amounts, so if I go down to €399, I jump down to €5nl. In order to play €25nl, I need 50 buyins, 50x25=1250.

    But now I took weekend off to review my plays and read some Harrington.
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-04-2010 at 09:15 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  6. #6
    So your stop loss is on a per table bases rather than the session.

    What about the bankroll I'm still confused. You say
    About roll requirements: those are minumum amounts, so if I go down to €399, I jump down to €5nl. In order to play €25nl, I need 50 buyins, 50x25=1250.
    But you started off with 1250 right? I'm sure there is just something I'm not getting but thought I'd ask.
    "You start the game with a full pot o’ luck and an empty pot o’ experience...
    The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."

    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX View Post
    Do you have testicles? If so, learn to bet like it
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13 View Post
    What about the bankroll I'm still confused. You say But you started off with 1250 right? I'm sure there is just something I'm not getting but thought I'd ask.
    No, I started with €1150, so I needed €100 more to move up. But the first session after posting operation, I lost €50 (€1100 roll).

    For today: I managed to book small winning sessions for €30, the roll for now is €1130. €120 to move up. Actually, I could move up right now, because was winning reg there (70k hands in Jan-Apr 2010, 7ptbb/100). The problem is, I took a couple of months break from poker and I'd like to make sure, my game is in shape and I really crush those games before I go back to €25NL. Another reason is, that I wan t to develop a reliable nit-crushing strategy based on stealing small to moderate pots - and on €10nl ill-timed spews are cheaper


    Thanks for encouraging, I'll write more soon.
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-12-2010 at 10:26 AM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  8. #8
    Hi Vrax

    You are rolled to play €25NL, even a bit €50NL, and it seems you are capable of beating them soundly, so just move up, don't worry about winning €30 here or losing €50 there, or reaching $1234.56 bankroll, since it doesn't really matter cos you are already well rolled.

    I've found tracking my results so obsessively only leads to results orientation. Since I've started back playing poker I'm only checking my bankroll every week or so and I am so much less* results orientated, and I just hop between 10NL, 25NL and 50NL depending on my mood etc.

    Anyway, good luck, I've got similar targets so ill check back in often



    *That sounds all wrong but I cant think why!
  9. #9
    Another session, up only €1. Ahter 500 hands I was up €23, but decided to wait for the blinds to come then turn off tables. But in last orbit, I made one biggish mistake, then made bad river call (paid off chased nutflush of passive nit with my top set), cooler set over set in limped pot vs shortish player, then my AK lost 70BB vs 77 on K79. The problem with waiting for big blind is, that I lose my focus and just want to end session, so those last hands are usually played poorly. And if I catch cooler just before ending session, I'm easy to put on tilt. Fuck that, when I feel I don't want to play, I will just turn off all the tables without waiting, I only play 6-8 tables so whatever.


    I grind two hours, win bunch of small pots by timed bluffs and thin valuebets, then some fucking nit flops overset on me or calls big barrels with his NFD and all the profit flushes into toilet. Frustrating.


    Roll: €1149, pretty much breakeven since operation started.
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-14-2010 at 05:23 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  10. #10
    I've found tracking my results so obsessively only leads to results orientation. Since I've started back playing poker I'm only checking my bankroll every week or so and I am so much less* results orientated, and I just hop between 10NL, 25NL and 50NL depending on my mood etc.
    Well, shit, that's me! I shold givew less damn about results and just focus on good play, but it's easier said than done.

    There's a small HEM icon in system tray, it shows profit for current session, when I point cursor over it. Anyone knows how to turn this off?
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-14-2010 at 05:22 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrax View Post
    Well, shit, that's me! I shold givew less damn about results and just focus on good play, but it's easier said than done.

    There's a small HEM icon in system tray, it shows profit for current session, when I point cursor over it. Anyone knows how to turn this off?
    Dunno about the system tray icon, try the HEM forums?

    I devised a number of ways to stop myself from looking at HM and cashier during the session, eventually I used ahk to block the buttons, so I couldn't check even if I wanted to.
    If the need to look at HM was so overwhelming then I'd have to shut down the poker client, then I'd realise that the need to look at the cashier was just some form of massive tilt, and the only thing you can do when you are on tilt is to stop playing.

    It only took a week or so before I got bored of trying to click a button I couldn't click and started ignoring it. The poker room i use now shows my balance in the lobby, but I don't even look at it now.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrax View Post
    Another session, up only €1. Ahter 500 hands I was up €23, but decided to wait for the blinds to come then turn off tables. But in last orbit, I made one biggish mistake, then made bad river call (paid off chased nutflush of passive nit with my top set), cooler set over set in limped pot vs shortish player, then my AK lost 70BB vs 77 on K79. The problem with waiting for big blind is, that I lose my focus and just want to end session, so those last hands are usually played poorly. And if I catch cooler just before ending session, I'm easy to put on tilt. Fuck that, when I feel I don't want to play, I will just turn off all the tables without waiting, I only play 6-8 tables so whatever.


    I grind two hours, win bunch of small pots by timed bluffs and thin valuebets, then some fucking nit flops overset on me or calls big barrels with his NFD and all the profit flushes into toilet. Frustrating.


    Roll: €1149, pretty much breakeven since operation started.
    Don't look at each session trying to make a profit, it just doesn't work like that and most people here know it but don't acknowledge it. Nearly every blog on here is like won $35 lose $20 won $50 lost $95.65 but it doesn't matter - what if you had lost the first hand, and then spent the rest of the session winning a bunch of small pots with well timed bluffs and value bets and breaking even, you'd have ended the session feeling much better even though it went exactly the same.

    I agree on don't wait for the bb if you are quitting, look up your bb/hand for playing those last few seats oop, and that is all you are losing by not playing them.
    The ohhhhhhhhhh but I might get dealt AA thought is the same thought fish have when they play two J3s pf because ohhhhhhhhhh they might flop a flush.
  13. #13
    Thanks
    Duck Hunter for your advice abut not looking at profits whlile playing. I hid my taskbar and problem solved.

    I was sitting on €1168 roll, according to roll requirements I should play until €1250, but fuck it, I decided to take graduation exam and jumped on 4 tables €25NL without overlapping.

    500 hands, €7 profit, one biggish spew and one fancy play. Bunch of tightish/spewish shortstacks, so raping nits by position was somehow limited.

    Lots of guys posting operations post here their leaks and go for plugging them - be it discipline, having unbalanced spots, too passive, too nitty, too aggro whatever. I'd like to try something different. I'll try to notice biggest, most common leaks of my reg opponents and develop tactic to exploit it.

    My short term goals:
    - learning to think in terms of ranges not "just hands"
    - learning to put people on actual ranges, not just "he 3bet pre he has aces, he flatted my opening, he has pocket pair"
    - completing Spoony's exercises
    - post at least one hand per daily session in FR subforum and learn from other players advices
    - try to finally understand "ISF theory"


    AQ spewy hand:

    SB 3bet/folded to me once, when I had AK on CO and 4bet shipped vs his blind, he timebanked before folding.

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.25 BB (10 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+2 (€25.84)
    Hero (MP1) (€24.40)
    MP2 (€25.11)
    CO (€4.63)
    BB (€10.28)
    UTG (€35.78)
    MP3 (€4.26)
    Button (€31.92)
    SB (€15.11)
    UTG+1 (€18.37)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, Q
    3 folds, Hero bets €0.50, 4 folds, SB raises to €2.25, BB calls €2.25, Hero raises to €24.40 (All-In), SB calls €12.86 (All-In), BB calls €8.03 (All-In)

    Flop: (€40.50) 8, 4, 10 (3 players, 3 all-in)

    Turn: (€40.50) 9 (3 players, 3 all-in)

    River: (€40.50) K (3 players, 3 all-in)

    Total pot: €40.50 | Rake: €2

    He timebanked again, then called with queens. I misread him, I thought he plays back often from blinds vs small raises, he just was getting dealt big pairs.

    About 2x opener: I use it fairly often, it sets up SPR to commit vs short fishes and "play some poker" vs deep nits. The hand is suited, so I don't fear multiway action.

    The best play pre was probably fold to 3bet (villain fount to be tight 3bettor, QQ+, AK+), or with limited information I dah, just call preflop and try to break the other player (fish who cold called). Shoving with two blockers and getting a chance to play 3way allin with perceived 30-50% equity isnt that bad, right?

    Fancy play of big blind special

    Is b/3b line better, when straight/flush will probably just call river lead, but won't check back and can talk himself to call huge c/raise?


    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.25 BB (8 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+1 (€24.75)
    SB (€10.87)
    Hero (BB) (€26.66)
    MP2 (€25)
    UTG (€4.23)
    MP1 (€42.98)
    CO (€18.70)
    Button (€19.27)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, 7
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls €0.25, MP1 calls €0.25, 3 folds, SB calls €0.25, Hero checks

    Flop: (€1) 7, 5, K (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets €0.75, UTG+1 calls €0.75, 2 folds

    Turn: (€2.50) 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets €1.50, UTG+1 calls €1.50

    River: (€5.50) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets €3, Hero raises to €13, UTG+1 calls €13

    Total pot: €31.50 | Rake: €1.55
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-19-2010 at 06:32 AM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  14. #14
    Post the spew hand! And explain your thought process to go along with it. We can have a look and correct your logic to save you money in the future.
  15. #15
    dzien dobry my wifeys polish. but thats about the extent of the polish i know other than bad words. GL dude.
  16. #16
    1.2k hands today, lost €10. First I was up €25, down -€15, then quick slide to -€77 (spew, horrible plays mostly), tightened up, but got passive, tilty but tables suddenly got more fishy, and my C game reduced losses. But I got a lot of expensive lessons, players are a bit more aggressive on cheap streets, like to hero call big bets and make "what the fuck" calls when it's cheap.

    I need to revisit my preflop game, and stop doing what I like the most - building pots OOP with inadequate value.

    Time to post hands in FR section.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  17. #17
    Spew for the day.

    Big bluff + weird line + bad board + fish = total disaster.

    All conditions "how to pull a successful bluff" were here broken.

    My huge bluff was called by Ace high first time in my life.

    By raising turn I wanted to set up pot to bluff river, when Ax misses the wheel.
    I was planning to shove every card except Ace, 4 and heart. In retrospect, it's horrible play, even when he folds missed Ace, because there are too many rivers that won't allow me to pull the trigger.


    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.25 BB (7 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (BB) (€25)
    UTG (€11.98)
    MP2 (€66.52)
    CO (€25.38)
    SB (€23.21)
    MP1 (€11.23)
    Button (€27.18)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J, K
    UTG calls €0.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls €0.25, CO bets €1.37, 1 fold, SB calls €1.37, Hero raises to €3.99, 3 folds, SB calls €3.99

    Flop: (€9.85) 3, 5, 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (€9.85) 2 (2 players)
    SB bets €1.25, Hero raises to €5, SB calls €5

    River: (€19.85) 8 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero raises to €16.01 (All-In), SB calls €14.22 (All-In)

    Total pot: €48.29 | Rake: €2.40

    His AJs was good.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  18. #18
    Found out, that my preflop game is a big mess. Before I go back on NL25, first I'll have to form preflop ranges, put it on paper and keep it as sanity check. My biggest weakness, when moving up is, that I start to think "those regs are tighter, their ranges are mixed, they can find laydowns with one pair hands and I can't just wait for big flops and stacks flying, I need to beat them in small pots, where they don't seem to have much". So, I start to 3bet more, get some folds, take down more pots preflop and on flop. All good, but there's a moment where I overdo those aggressive plays and start losing, and the losses are fast and big. Then tilt, some suckout, more daring plays (read: horrible spews), and couple buyins down into drain. Last time I made back nearly all tilt losses but in the long run, that kind of approach is no good.

    I need to put on paper my game and tactics, clean up mess in my head, do some math and mess with Pokerstove and Flopzilla, just to be sure, that the play I make is the right +EV play, not just some tilt induced spew.

    The plan for preflop strategy:

    1. Form tight, reasonble preflop ranges: EP, MP, LP, BTN, SB/BB - straightforward, for value.
    2. Form mix-up add-on range, mainly for EP (and for MP), just to balance strength on all kind of boards
    3. Form MP/LP add-on range for:
    - semibluffing (best of 'usually fold' hands, with big pot potential)
    - bluff 3betting tagfishes who open or isolate with 15-20% of hands but 4bet only 1% (lol kings plus). Important: don't follow up with c-bet, when after multiple folds they finally call and get ready to check/shove.
    - overlimping

    I'm going to put some of the work in this post, just to check my thought processes.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  19. #19
    My preflop ranges (will be edited and updated constantly)

    No raises in front, first to act

    EP:
    Value: 88+, AJs+, AK, KQs - 5%
    Shania: {45s-78s} 0-100% depending on table conditions

    Notes:
    - very strong on high boards (lots of sets and top 2p combos), if I want to and have a read, I can trip barrel regs off all one pair hands, and they can't do much about it because of game theory
    - even without AQo, it's still strong on Ace high boards. Besides, opponents are scared to play back on Axx so I don't need that many Aces in range.
    - mediocre on medium boards (only 88-TT for sets)
    - better on flushboards, than standard range with more PP's and AQ (that's why I removed AQo and put KQs instead) - more oportunities for b/3b semibluffing balanced with sets/AA against raises "to see where im at" done by lot of regs.
    - very weak on low boards (467, 356, 664 etc.), can't do much about it without weakening entire range. To compensate it just a bit, I made a mixup add-on: openraising 50-100% of {45s-78s}. Regs don't usually exploit it for the max, but some of them learned floating and it's nice to see their 66 on 569 against my 78s lol.

    MP:
    Value: 55+, AJ+, KQ, J+J+s, ATs+, 98s-JTs
    Shania: 25-50% of (45s-78s, 46s-79s) just to balance on low boards

    Notes:
    - no low PP's, mid sooted connectors instead. SC's don't hit that hard, but they hit more often, draw with more outs, so they are better to play against check/minraises, donk bets and players who like to test my c-bets, but they don't have balls to fire mulriple barrels.

    CO:
    Value: 22+, A2s+, AT+, J+J+, JT, T+T+s, 45s+, T8s-J9s
    Shania: not needed, basic range is wide enough
    Add-on: T9, K6s+, Q7s+, J8s, 46s-79s

    About add-on:
    - designed mainly to exploit weak players, who limp too much and are passive postflop
    - those are best of "usually fold" hands, to semibluff, isoraising donators, limping behind multiway when I don't have loose/aggro players with position on my left.
    - it shouldn't be overused vs tight limp/callers, who can play back light. Against them better to limp behind and pressure them in unraised pot, when they nit it up postflop ("don't go broke in unraised pot" mantra")

    BTN:
    Not many strict rules, but I'll need some semi-structure, just for reference and sanity check.

    Value: Cutoff range with its addon
    BTN Add-on: K2s+, Q5s+, T+7+s, 98, A9o for purposes already described


    to be cont.
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-21-2010 at 06:50 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  20. #20
    Played 10NL to test preflop opening strategy and some anti-tagfish postflop plays. On 10NL I don't face many 3bets, take more, than my fair share by questionable c-bets and obvious bluff lines (small pots), but I guess it won't fly that often in €25NL. I actually can't widen my 3bet range, when most players have PFR=4 or less.
    On €25NL it's a bit different, more regs, a bit wider ranges (like 16/12's, 12/10's etc. starts to be more common, less 2/2's, 12/2's, 40/10's or so)

    So, I noticed, the most frequent mistakes made by regs, when they are getting 3bet:
    - opening too wide and flat or 4bet with QQ+AK only
    - flatting too wide, and folding too much postflop
    - isolating fishes superwide without paying attention who is sitting on their left (me lol)
    - trying to adjust by random and too frequent 4bet bluffs with air (where just tightening up would do the job)
    - generally having fixed preflop ranges in certain position

    When they get called behind, they usually:
    - cbet too much OOP or just c/f too much when they start to feel owned
    - have unbalanced c/c range (usually weakish/marginal) and c/r range (too strong or just doesn't exist)
    - have unbalanced double barrel range, don't have stack-a-donk range (or it's supernarrow and superstrong, like sets+)


    Pumped roll to €1200, took €100 as planned. With the €1100 roll, I will swith betbeen €10NL and €25NL, depending on mood table conditions and my condition.


    Things to do before next €25NL shot:

    1. Building 3betting exploiting game
    2. Building basic floating game
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  21. #21
    Betatesting anti-tagfish counterplays:


    3betting non-nut hands:

    #1:
    Two blockers against 4bet range, taggy had high fold3bet stat, late position, high chance his PFR is just iso-raise.

    flop plan: c-bet one broadway boards (Axx-Jxx) and hit boards, stackoff on safe TP and JTx boards.

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (10 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



    #2: Pretty rare play, 3betting EP raiser by when I'm in EP too. Tight opener, very straightforward vs 3bets (will 4bet KK+, flat maybe AKs, capable of folding mid pairs pre, doesn't stackoff light even in 3bet pots). I could flat pre, but I don't want more callers behind and bad relative position, and my watch indicated it's time to mix up so I 3bet smallish, to get call from all PP's and AK which will checkfold most missed boards. If I hit pair, I go pot control mode, unless it's QJ/QT, then I'll protect against AK by bet/folding flop, and stacking off turn, if blank falls and he open checks.

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (10 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (CO) (€10.70)
    BB (€9.94)
    UTG (€13.36)
    UTG+1 (€10.34)
    UTG+2 (€1.67)
    MP1 (€9.65)
    MP2 (€10.15)
    MP3 (€8.11)
    Button (€13.58)
    SB (€14.17)



    Total pot: €0.95 | Rake: €0

    #4: Tagfish regs open widish preflop, isi-raise even wider, call a bit more deep, but when don't hit hard, they turn weaktight on expensive streets.
    His range on flop: mid PP's, draws (I believe he calls all his suited connectors vs my "obvious AA"), on turn he folds all weak pairs, non-combo draws and maybe even QQ, raises/calls 2p or better. EZ double barrel?

    [Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (10 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (€22.16)
    Hero (Button) (€19.95)
    SB (€8.59)
    UTG+1 (€18.25)
    UTG+2 (€11.37)
    UTG (€10.47)
    MP1 (€9.91)
    MP2 (€19.54)
    MP3 (€26)
    CO (€21.65)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 3, K
    2 folds, UTG+2 calls €0.10, 2 folds, MP3 calls €0.10, CO bets €0.60, Hero raises to €1.40, 4 folds, CO calls €1.40

    Flop: (€3.15) 2, 3, 10 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets €2.10, CO calls €2.10

    Turn: (€7.35) 8 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets €4.70, 1 fold

    Total pot: €7.35 | Rake: €0.36


    #3, Tagfish, opens a lot, folds a lot to 3bets, when calls, usually plays poorly postflop. "3bet, float or just fold" hand, but I like floating more when I have BTN, so this time, instead of usual muck pre, I decided to 3bet. With his high % fold to 3bets, it should show profit in a vacuum.

    Hero (CO) (€10.70)
    BB (€9.94)
    UTG (€13.36)
    UTG+1 (€10.34)
    UTG+2 (€1.67)
    MP1 (€9.65)
    MP2 (€10.15)
    MP3 (€8.11)
    Button (€13.58)
    SB (€14.17)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 7
    3 folds, MP1 bets €0.40, 2 folds, Hero raises to €1.20, 4 folds

    Total pot: €0.95 | Rake: €0


    #5: Poor 3bet by me, villain was way to tight. Even when he continues only with big pairs, I can't bluff here, because with his low PFR and EP he has big pair like 50% of the time. Not enough for bluffing (I need about 65% fold% in vacuum) and flopped TP doesn't have much value postflop against him.

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (8 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (CO) (€12.93)
    Button (€9.85)
    SB (€10)
    UTG (€11.49)
    BB (€10)
    UTG+1 (€9.57)
    MP1 (€10)
    MP2 (€14.48)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q
    1 fold, UTG+1 bets €0.30, MP1 calls €0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to €1.20, 3 folds, UTG+1 raises to €3.40, 2 folds

    Total pot: €2.85 | Rake: €0

    With hands I put my thought processes, if you find flaws in my thinking, I'd be glad to get some feedback.
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-25-2010 at 07:41 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  22. #22
    Ready to barrel blank river:

    Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €0.10 BB (9 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (€9.90)
    UTG (€9.65)
    MP1 (€9)
    MP2 (€19.34)
    MP3 (€3.67)
    Hero (Button) (€12.98)
    SB (€7.10)
    UTG+1 (€2)
    CO (€15.09)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 3, 5
    2 folds, MP1 bets €0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls €0.30, 1 fold, BB calls €0.30

    Flop: (€0.95) 9, Q, A (3 players)
    BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (€0.95) Q (3 players)
    BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets €0.70, 2 folds

    Total pot: €0.95 | Rake: €0.04
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  23. #23
    Last few days I haven't played, because I was busy with other stuff. I'm also studying theories from TOP and NLHETP books, to get better grasp on a game.

    Roll for now €1155
    won €105
    withdrawn €100



    Yet another winning month, but broke even with bankroll - only 10k hands, failed shot at 25nl and below average winrate 5ptbb/100 on €10NL. But I made some effort to add some grand theft poker to my game and last 2k hands in 10nl show this, so there's some improvement I think.

    [URL=http://img691.imageshack.us]


    Plan for October is about 15-20k hands, and another shot at €25nl.

    To learn:
    - preflop against a raises(s)
    - fighting c-bets by raising and c/r (forming ranges)
    - thin VB rivers
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-29-2010 at 02:17 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy

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