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  1. #1

    Default Operation 1K!

    Well I have taken an 18 month hiatus from playing poker online and live.

    I used to play live all of the time with friends and at Turning Stone. I also played some online at Bodog and pokerstars where I made about $300-$400 with random cash games and lucky breaks. All in all I made about 2.5k from playing poker for about 2 years at the end of highschool and beginning of college. But I got so busy at college that I completely stopped playing.

    Well I've come back, I'm on summer vacation and I'm looking to do this thing the right way. Oh and I like money and my summer job doesn't fill my need at $9 an hour!

    I have started playing $10NL and here it begins
  2. #2


    Day 1 (Aug1), started at $25NL and then realized I do NOT have the bankroll to mess around with $25NL. So I decided to try and build a bankroll for it! Started off hot, and then dropped off, but ended up a couple bucks at the end of the day.



    Day 2 (Aug 2), What a fight! Fought and fought and fought to get back to even, ended up down $0.30 on the day.



    Day 3 (Aug 3), A GREAT day! I played great poker, got a couple breaks until the last hand of the day when I was about to get off. As you can see, I had a major drop off at the end of the day from over $50 to about $30. Made a horrible play, I will post it below. I knew I shouldn't call, but I called anyways.



    PokerStars Game #19341860091: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/03 - 22:59:28 (ET)
    Table 'Agamemnon' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: CBat28 ($19.30 in chips)
    Seat 2: demarais1957 ($2.85 in chips)
    Seat 3: ALPAllstar20 ($11.95 in chips)
    Seat 6: Stex8 ($27.60 in chips)
    Stex8: posts small blind $0.05
    CBat28: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [As 3c]
    demarais1957: calls $0.10
    ALPAllstar20: folds
    Stex8: calls $0.05
    vend7 joins the table at seat #4
    CBat28: checks
    *** FLOP *** [4d 5c Ad]
    Stex8: checks
    ShurLocCOMBS joins the table at seat #5
    CBat28: bets $0.30
    demarais1957: folds
    Stex8: raises $0.50 to $0.80
    CBat28: calls $0.50
    *** TURN *** [4d 5c Ad] [4c]
    Stex8: bets $0.30
    CBat28: calls $0.30
    *** RIVER *** [4d 5c Ad 4c] [2h]
    Stex8: bets $1
    CBat28: raises $2.50 to $3.50
    Stex8: raises $22.90 to $26.40 and is all-in
    CBat28: calls $14.60 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet ($8.30) returned to Stex8
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Stex8: shows [4s Ah] (a full house, Fours full of Aces)
    CBat28: mucks hand
    Stex8 collected $36.80 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $38.70 | Rake $1.90
    Board [4d 5c Ad 4c 2h]
    Seat 1: CBat28 (big blind) mucked [As 3c]
    Seat 2: demarais1957 folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: ALPAllstar20 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Stex8 (small blind) showed [4s Ah] and won ($36.80) with a full house, Fours full of Aces
  3. #3
    Stats over the 2,869 hands.

    VP$IP: 22.10
    PFR: 14.88
    W$WSF: 41.02
    WTSD: 28.17
    AF: 4.06
    AFq: 48.91
    3Bet: 2.97
    Fold 3B: 77.32
    Att to Steal: 26.18

    How do these look?

    I have started folding hands worse than QQ to reraises preflop when they are a somewhat tight player.
  4. #4
    Welcome back to teh pokerz!

    Um... First thought when I read this was: "Wow, he needs 40BI's to move up to $25NL? That's a bit much". Then I read that you were starting at $10NL with only 10BI's? WTF mate? That's two extremes in the same operation!

    A3 hand, I probably fold to the Check/raise on the flop, just not worth it with this weak of a hand. You are only 4-handed though, so this isn't too bad. I definitely do NOT just call his weak bet on the turn though, It's raise or fold time HERE to find out if he's serious. River is hard, I know. I've made a similar mistake myself when deep. Looks like a bluff, but you know it isn't, yet call anyways. Ugh. This is how we learn.

    3000 hands is almost meaningless, so FWIW: Pre-flop Stats look a bit loose, but not too bad. Try to call less and/or raise more. At these limits you should be mostly betting or folding all the time. You're really aggressive though, careful not to get reckless! Your AF tells me that you are not calling a lot on other streets, that's good! (AFAIK AF is calculated as #-Raises/#-Calls)

    GL, and don't micro-manage your operation, have fun with it.
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
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    Oh, and your sig banner is messed up you need the
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  6. #6
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    Move down to 5NL, 14 BIs isn't enough to support yourself even as low as 10NL.

    And probably at 6 max you should be stealing more blinds... but I'm a 6 max fish so w/e.

    Good luck!!
  7. #7
    I have some money that I can use to pad my bankroll if needed. I'm going to stick at 10NL for now.

    Took a couple rough beats today, didn't play too bad, ended down $7.40, but I will play again later tonight.

    This guy was a maniac, something like 75/35, I caught him =/

    PokerStars Game #19355866778: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/04 - 14:38:50 (ET)
    Table 'Idomeneus IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Funtoers ($4.55 in chips)
    Seat 2: sandsturm911 ($10 in chips)
    Seat 3: CBat28 ($9.05 in chips)
    Seat 4: Foppa4 ($10.35 in chips)
    Seat 5: AJMcGlock ($2.70 in chips)
    Seat 6: taex01 ($7.75 in chips)
    Funtoers: posts small blind $0.05
    sandsturm911: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Kh Kc]
    CBat28: raises $0.40 to $0.50
    Foppa4: folds
    AJMcGlock: folds
    taex01: calls $0.50
    Funtoers: folds
    sandsturm911: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4s Qd 6c]
    CBat28: bets $1.20
    taex01: raises $6.05 to $7.25 and is all-in
    CBat28: calls $6.05
    *** TURN *** [4s Qd 6c] [3c]
    *** RIVER *** [4s Qd 6c 3c] [8h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    CBat28: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)
    taex01: shows [8d 6d] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
    taex01 collected $14.90 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $15.65 | Rake $0.75
    Board [4s Qd 6c 3c 8h]

    Same Table!

    PokerStars Game #19355747965: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/04 - 14:34:02 (ET)
    Table 'Idomeneus IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Funtoers ($2.55 in chips)
    Seat 3: CBat28 ($11.20 in chips)
    Seat 4: n0iz ($9.05 in chips)
    Seat 5: AJMcGlock ($3.55 in chips)
    Seat 6: taex01 ($8.05 in chips)
    n0iz: posts small blind $0.05
    AJMcGlock: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [9s 8s]
    Venp leaves the table
    taex01: folds
    Funtoers: calls $0.10
    CBat28: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    n0iz: folds
    AJMcGlock: folds
    Funtoers: calls $0.30
    *** FLOP *** [Qd 4s Ts]
    n0iz leaves the table
    Funtoers: checks
    CBat28: bets $0.60
    Funtoers: calls $0.60
    *** TURN *** [Qd 4s Ts] [Jh]
    Funtoers: checks
    CBat28: bets $1.50
    Funtoers: raises $0.05 to $1.55 and is all-in
    CBat28: calls $0.05
    *** RIVER *** [Qd 4s Ts Jh] [Qh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Funtoers: shows [Qc 4c] (a full house, Queens full of Fours)
    CBat28: mucks hand
    Funtoers collected $5 from pot
    CBat28 said, "HOLY ****"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $5.25 | Rake $0.25
    Board [Qd 4s Ts Jh Qh]
    Seat 1: Funtoers showed [Qc 4c] and won ($5) with a full house, Queens full of Fours

    I was drawing awesomely, while having the straight!
  8. #8
    Had a great day today. I think I'm done for the day. Here is the graph for today.



    A crazy hand where slow playing worked

    PokerStars Game #19391685426: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/05 - 20:20:34 (ET)
    Table 'Altair II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: zeglarz ($6.55 in chips)
    Seat 2: DerekEll ($8.55 in chips)
    Seat 3: little luds ($4.85 in chips)
    Seat 4: PPPP77 ($32.10 in chips)
    Seat 6: CBat28 ($21.50 in chips)
    DerekEll: posts small blind $0.05
    little luds: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Tc Td]
    Yoda4711 joins the table at seat #5
    PPPP77: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    CBat28: calls $0.40
    zeglarz: folds
    zeglarz leaves the table
    DerekEll: folds
    little luds: calls $0.30
    *** FLOP *** [5d 5h Ts]
    little luds: checks
    PPPP77: bets $0.40
    CBat28: calls $0.40
    little luds: calls $0.40
    *** TURN *** [5d 5h Ts] [8c]
    little luds: checks
    PPPP77: bets $0.40
    CBat28: calls $0.40
    little luds: folds
    *** RIVER *** [5d 5h Ts 8c] [3h]
    PPPP77: bets $2.40
    CBat28: raises $2.60 to $5
    PPPP77: raises $25.90 to $30.90 and is all-in
    CBat28: calls $15.30 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet ($10.60) returned to PPPP77
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    PPPP77: shows [8h 8d] (a full house, Eights full of Fives)
    CBat28: shows [Tc Td] (a full house, Tens full of Fives)
    CBat28 collected $41.85 from pot
  9. #9
    And here I thought today was over! Got to play with some real donks (wrote their names down for the future).

    Final August 5th

  10. #10
    Wow, that's one hell of a day! You're really lucky your slow-play worked there, allowing your villian to hit big. NH.

    P.S. Your sig banner is messed up. I'm assuming you tried to enter $127.45, but it doesn't take decimals... You'll need to start the banner anew since you can't edit the banner once the goal is "complete"...
  11. #11
    Oh what a sad day.

    Bad Beat #1
    PokerStars Game #19418921762: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/06 - 21:54:02 (ET)
    Table 'Recha III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Foppa4 ($5.75 in chips)
    Seat 2: CBat28 ($2.15 in chips)
    Seat 3: Simpson1988 ($9.85 in chips)
    Seat 6: Jiggy83 ($35.60 in chips)
    Foppa4: posts small blind $0.05
    CBat28: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Ad Js]
    Simpson1988: folds
    Jiggy83: calls $0.10
    Aydou2000 joins the table at seat #4
    Foppa4: calls $0.05
    CBat28: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    Jiggy83: calls $0.30
    Foppa4: calls $0.30
    *** FLOP *** [9h 6d Jh]
    Foppa4: checks
    CBat28: bets $1.75 and is all-in
    Jiggy83: calls $1.75
    Foppa4: folds
    *** TURN *** [9h 6d Jh] [Th]
    *** RIVER *** [9h 6d Jh Th] [Tc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    CBat28: shows [Ad Js] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
    Jiggy83: shows [8s Qc] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
    Jiggy83 collected $4.50 from pot

    #2
    PokerStars Game #19419855291: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/06 - 22:34:23 (ET)
    Table 'Recha III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Foppa4 ($5.65 in chips)
    Seat 2: CBat28 ($9.90 in chips)
    Seat 3: LennonMade ($7.35 in chips)
    Seat 4: LORDCLC ($10 in chips)
    Seat 5: PokerPatton ($6.15 in chips)
    Seat 6: Jiggy83 ($56.20 in chips)
    LORDCLC: posts small blind $0.05
    PokerPatton: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Qd Qh]
    Jiggy83: calls $0.10
    Foppa4: folds
    CBat28: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    LennonMade: folds
    LORDCLC: folds
    PokerPatton: folds
    Jiggy83: calls $0.30
    *** FLOP *** [8s 6h 5d]
    Jiggy83: bets $0.20
    CBat28 said, "for your own sake don't come to this table, jiggy will take your money"
    CBat28: raises $0.80 to $1
    Jiggy83: calls $0.80
    *** TURN *** [8s 6h 5d] [5s]
    Jiggy83: bets $0.50
    CBat28: calls $0.50
    *** RIVER *** [8s 6h 5d 5s] [6d]
    Jiggy83: bets $2
    CBat28 said, "like this hand... r u serious"
    CBat28 said, "if you have a 5 or 6"
    CBat28: calls $2
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Jiggy83: shows [2s 6s] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
    CBat28: mucks hand
    Jiggy83 collected $7.60 from pot

    #3 with a frustration all-in.
    PokerStars Game #19420001008: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/06 - 22:40:31 (ET)
    Table 'Recha III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Foppa4 ($14.10 in chips)
    Seat 2: CBat28 ($6.70 in chips)
    Seat 3: LennonMade ($7.20 in chips)
    Seat 4: LORDCLC ($9.80 in chips)
    Seat 5: givmezechipz ($10 in chips)
    Seat 6: Jiggy83 ($54.05 in chips)
    Foppa4: posts small blind $0.05
    CBat28: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Qs Qd]
    LennonMade: folds
    LORDCLC: folds
    givmezechipz: calls $0.10
    Jiggy83: calls $0.10
    Foppa4: folds
    CBat28: raises $0.40 to $0.50
    givmezechipz: calls $0.40
    Jiggy83: folds
    *** FLOP *** [2s Js 3d]
    CBat28: bets $1
    givmezechipz said, "my bad"
    givmezechipz: calls $1
    *** TURN *** [2s Js 3d] [4c]
    CBat28: bets $2
    givmezechipz: calls $2
    *** RIVER *** [2s Js 3d 4c] [Jd]
    CBat28: bets $3.20 and is all-in
    givmezechipz: calls $3.20
    CBat28 said, "I quit"
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    CBat28: shows [Qs Qd] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
    givmezechipz: shows [Td Jh] (three of a kind, Jacks)
    givmezechipz collected $12.90 from pot


    Not really a "bad beat" but this happened multiple times...
    PokerStars Game #19418463471: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/06 - 21:34:38 (ET)
    Table 'Iphigenia II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: froggie53088 ($10.25 in chips)
    Seat 2: milkman1263 ($2.85 in chips)
    Seat 3: jonigerard ($9.85 in chips)
    Seat 4: Vtrain ($10.10 in chips)
    Seat 5: Drszka101 ($10.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: CBat28 ($9.60 in chips)
    froggie53088: posts small blind $0.05
    milkman1263: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Qd Ad]
    jonigerard: folds
    Vtrain: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    Drszka101: calls $0.40
    CBat28: calls $0.40
    froggie53088: folds
    milkman1263: calls $0.30
    *** FLOP *** [Js Qc 9d]
    milkman1263: checks
    Vtrain: bets $2
    Drszka101: folds
    CBat28: raises $3 to $5
    milkman1263: folds
    Vtrain: raises $4.70 to $9.70 and is all-in
    CBat28: calls $4.20 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet ($0.50) returned to Vtrain
    *** TURN *** [Js Qc 9d] [Qs]
    *** RIVER *** [Js Qc 9d Qs] [6d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Vtrain: shows [Ks Th] (a straight, Nine to King)
    CBat28: mucks hand
    Vtrain collected $19.05 from pot


    PokerStars Game #19417637062: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/06 - 20:59:33 (ET)
    Table 'Iphigenia II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: froggie53088 ($10.15 in chips)
    Seat 3: RMONTY39 ($7.65 in chips)
    Seat 4: oderusdoug ($5.85 in chips)
    Seat 5: Stravanut ($12.15 in chips)
    Seat 6: CBat28 ($11.35 in chips)
    oderusdoug: posts small blind $0.05
    Stravanut: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Ah As]
    CBat28: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    froggie53088: folds
    RMONTY39: calls $0.40
    milkman1263 joins the table at seat #2
    oderusdoug: calls $0.35
    Stravanut: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Kh 4s Jc]
    oderusdoug: bets $0.10
    CBat28: raises $1.10 to $1.20
    RMONTY39: folds
    oderusdoug: calls $1.10
    *** TURN *** [Kh 4s Jc] [Tc]
    oderusdoug: bets $4.25 and is all-in
    CBat28: calls $4.25
    *** RIVER *** [Kh 4s Jc Tc] [9c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    oderusdoug: shows [Qc 9s] (a straight, Nine to King)
    CBat28: mucks hand
    oderusdoug collected $11.60 from pot


    I don't know...

    PokerStars Game #19417513408: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/06 - 20:54:14 (ET)
    Table 'Iphigenia II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: froggie53088 ($9.85 in chips)
    Seat 4: oderusdoug ($2.75 in chips)
    Seat 5: Stravanut ($13.15 in chips)
    Seat 6: CBat28 ($16 in chips)
    froggie53088: posts small blind $0.05
    de_yannick: is sitting out
    oderusdoug: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Ac 9c]
    Stravanut: folds
    CBat28: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    froggie53088: folds
    oderusdoug: calls $0.30
    *** FLOP *** [Kh 3s 8s]
    oderusdoug: checks
    CBat28: bets $0.60
    oderusdoug: calls $0.60
    *** TURN *** [Kh 3s 8s] [6c]
    oderusdoug: checks
    CBat28: bets $1.90
    oderusdoug: calls $1.75 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet ($0.15) returned to CBat28
    *** RIVER *** [Kh 3s 8s 6c] [Ad]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    oderusdoug: shows [As 6d] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
    CBat28: mucks hand
    oderusdoug collected $5.30 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $5.55 | Rake $0.25
    Board [Kh 3s 8s 6c Ad]
    Seat 1: froggie53088 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: oderusdoug (big blind) showed [As 6d] and won ($5.30) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
    Seat 5: Stravanut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: CBat28 (button) mucked [Ac 9c]


    After all this, I'm even on the day. It's been up and down today!
  12. #12
    Well, I hopped on the rollercoaster today.

    Up and down and then a little bit back up I went!



    I had to go for a run after my collapse, played some Michael Jackson to get my spirit back up and went back at it. I had the day off from work so I had a lot of free time and this was my longest and most hands played in a single day. Although I wish I stopped after my afternoon session. I knew it was only a matter of time before my Aces got cracked, and they did, along with Queens twice. ^_^

    Tomorrow's a new day! Stay positive.
  13. #13
    Okay, I'm trying to look on the bright side. I'm still up $75 total. Another ridiculous day. Lost $ with AA and KK today, got boned in a $5 tourney, and lost $37 total for the day.

    The good thing is I didn't get as angry as I did last night. But I just can't believe the bad beats that I have been taking. Some are bad plays, granted, but just straight up, me betting hard with AK and someone calling with Ax and then the river coming x is just hard to take after a while.

    I tilted for a little while, and I blame about $10-$15 on that. But I guess I just gotta cut my losses and make sure to play good poker. I've got the day off from work tomorrow and I hope to play better poker and hopefully the poker gods are with me.

    What do you guys do when you are having a bad session? I find myself wanting to play more tables to get my $$ back, and I know that this is a bad strategy. Do you have any tips?



    Heres a $5, 45 man tourney, haha.

    PokerStars Game #19445241192: Tournament #100777082, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/08/07 - 22:18:52 (ET)
    Table '100777082 3' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 2: Sonnett (1850 in chips)
    Seat 3: CptTilt (1415 in chips)
    Seat 4: CBat28 (1425 in chips)
    Seat 5: pokerjöker (1485 in chips)
    Seat 6: Big Ohm (1360 in chips)
    Seat 7: Brewster63 (630 in chips)
    Seat 8: KaiserBob (740 in chips)
    Seat 9: THC Villan (4595 in chips)
    pokerjöker: posts small blind 15
    Big Ohm: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Ad Ah]
    Brewster63: raises 600 to 630 and is all-in
    KaiserBob: folds
    THC Villan: folds
    Sonnett: folds
    CptTilt: folds
    CBat28: raises 795 to 1425 and is all-in
    pokerjöker: folds
    Big Ohm: folds
    Uncalled bet (795) returned to CBat28
    *** FLOP *** [9d Js Td]
    *** TURN *** [9d Js Td] [Qh]
    *** RIVER *** [9d Js Td Qh] [Jd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Brewster63: shows [Jh 9s] (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
    CBat28: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
    Brewster63 collected 1305 from pot
    CBat28 said, "lol"
  14. #14
    I meant to respond yesterday, but got sidetracked.

    First, in reference to tilt, everyone is different, but most find that taking a break will help them get back on track. You've gone from not playing poker for a year and a half, to playing every day. You just jumped in the pool, but didn't realise that the water is sometimes cold, and you forgot your swimsuit. This is a drastic change for you, and it doesn't sound like you were emotionally ready for it.

    In reference to your "Bad Beats" on Wednesday:
    #1 First thing I noticed, you are a VERY short stack? Why? Pre-flop, Raise to $0.60 with 2 limpers, make them pay to see your hand. I would probably not've made the same play as Jiggy, but he's really deep stacked, you're a tiny stack and it's only 4-handed, so it's really not that bad. Just a 70/30
    #2 Full stack! Good! Pre-flop to $0.50 with a limper. Turn off your CHAT! You are tilting yourself with comments like this! Good raise on the flop. Turn call of that donk bet is HORRIBLE. RAISE that shit up, or FOLD if you believe him, don't let him take charge of this hand yet. River call is bad also. I can tell in just these two hands how loose and passive Mr. Jiggy is. If he's betting, he's got at least a piece of the board. The river is OBVIOUS that he has a 5 or 6. FOLD. Turn OFF your chat. NOW. He's in your head, hard. This should really be the end of your session, you are way too emotionally attached to the results.
    #3 Short stack again, you are losing value. Pre-Flop to $0.60 with 2 limpers! Flop bet is good, Turn bet is Ok, I'd go a little closer to pot with the added straight draw in addition to the flush draw. River sucks, but I would've check/called here. You'll catch a lot of players bluffing their flush draw here, trying to represent the J. Most times they won't have it. Again, turn off your chat. It's generally universally -EV the way that you are using it.
    #4 Pre-flop is either a call or raise depending on the table. A call is fine. TPTK is a good hand, but not great on that flop. Was Vtrain really loose? That would be the only reason I would raise here. This is a tough spot, and really would depend on the read of Vtrain. Also, a push would've been a better raise, since you can't fold when he re-raises, and you'll have better FE...
    #5 Standard idiocy by villian. You can't get away from the Half-stack here.
    #6 You've made your point PF and on the flop. Check behind the turn. You're going to lose to the mini-stack on the river no matter what though. Wah.
    AA tourney hand You were going to lose on that board probably no matter what. Why are you complaining though? It was still early in the tourney, and your M is still just fine. It's not like this one hand doomed your entire tournament.

    In essence, you are tilting for the wrong reasons. You should be tilting for mistakes that YOU make, not theirs. Bad beats are part of the game, have you handed out any recently?
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  15. #15
    Thanks man.

    That post actually helps a ton. I never thought of upping my raise with two limpers. I always just stuck to .40 or .50 raises no matter what. But raising higher with those limpers is really going to make them invest to see a flop in a hand they've already invested in.

    The reason I was low stack is because I had lost some chips earlier. Should I make sure to always stay around $10? As in when I drop below $5 to rebuy back up to $10?

    Again thanks for your help!
  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by CBAT
    Thanks man.

    That post actually helps a ton. I never thought of upping my raise with two limpers. I always just stuck to .40 or .50 raises no matter what. But raising higher with those limpers is really going to make them invest to see a flop in a hand they've already invested in.

    The reason I was low stack is because I had lost some chips earlier. Should I make sure to always stay around $10? As in when I drop below $5 to rebuy back up to $10?

    Again thanks for your help!
    The "raising rule" is to take your standard opening raise ($0.40) and add a BB for every limper. So, $0.50 for 1 limper, $0.60 for 2, $0.70 for 3, etc. It's not an exact science, but it's a good starting point.

    I actually try to not drop below $9 personally. If I get dealt a monster the next hand, I want to try and win as much as possible, and that can only happen if I have at least the maximum allowed on the table.

    Glad to help! Let me know if you have any specific questions.
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  17. #17
    Damn, this is frustrating.

    I've been on a freefall recently. And for some reason I entered a 1500 man $20 tourney in the midst of all of this (not on graph).



    I'm going to keep grinding, but this shit is annoying! Just people hitting their damn 3 outters on the turn or river after committing all of their chips.
  18. #18
    Sorry to hear about the downswing...

    Without posting any bad-beats, post some hands that you had some tough decisions on (whether you folded or not...) There may be something wrong, but in all likelyhood, it's just a BE stretch which we all have...

    Also, TBH, posting your stats would be a LOT more useful than a graph; at least there we might be able to spot something. If you do want to post the graph still, select the one that shows Non-showdown pots also (from the dropdown).
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  19. #19
    Okay, I'm not going to post bad beats because they seem endless recently!

    My non-showdown is horrid, am I too aggressive?


    Here are my stats over all of my hands...


    Here are a few recent bad calls? If anyone could critique my play, I'd appreciate it.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($11.30)
    BB ($10.30)
    UTG ($9.70)
    MP ($15.55)
    CO ($12.15)
    Button ($10.05)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 7.
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.3, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20.

    Flop: ($0.90) J, 9, K (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.5, BB calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50.

    Turn: ($2.40) Q (3 players)
    Hero bets $1.4, BB calls $1.40, CO raises to $11.35, Hero calls $9.10 (All-In), BB folds.

    River: ($25.65) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $24.80

    FTR Hand History Converter Output (intended for copying and pasting into poker forums!):
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP ($10.75)
    Button ($15.65)
    SB ($4.25)
    Hero ($7.75)
    UTG ($12.30)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A.
    2 folds, Button raises to $0.4, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30.

    Flop: ($0.85) J, K, 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $0.6, Hero raises to $1.4, Button calls $0.80.

    Turn: ($3.65) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.5, Button calls $1.50.

    River: ($6.65) 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2, Button raises to $4.5, Hero calls $2.45 (All-In).

    Final Pot: $15.55

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($15.30)
    BB ($14.35)
    UTG ($12.25)
    MP ($5.45)
    Hero ($10.35)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, T.
    1 fold, MP raises to $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($1.15) 7, 9, 6 (2 players)
    MP bets $1, Hero calls $1.

    Turn: ($3.15) K (2 players)
    MP bets $1, Hero calls $1.

    River: ($5.15) 9 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $3, MP calls $2.95 (All-In).

    Final Pot: $11.05
  20. #20
    I totally know how you feel at the moment. I lost 300$ in my last two days (which is pretty much everything I made at 25NL), started off with some bad beats and coolers and then turned into tilt. I then kinda lost my confidence and di'nt want to be aggressive and when I was aggro I was overly aggro in the wrong spots. Then today I was like... OK calm down, I don't wanna move back down to 10NL so just pick good tables and own the fish. I went back to playing my normal game and had a hell of a session to get 150$ back and I hope to keep it going tomorrow.

    Basically just don't get demoralized and play how you normally would (or how you did when you were winning) and you'll get back to winning. Most important don't monkey your money off like I did since it will take a lot of work to make up for it.

    About those hands you played. I guess in your gut you know it's bad to call, but in the heat of the moment it's hard to fold and making those folds is one of the things us beginners need to learn to do.

    3bet AK preflop n get it on that type of flop (in most cases), and your hand 3 is pretty bad btw, not necessarily the calling part, but the bluffing part, he's bet on two streets, he has such good pot odds, unless he was bluffing on flop and turn he won't fold (unless he's a really good player, which he isn"t)... Hand 1 is one of those hands where you know you should fold but it's hard to do so.
    My blog/operation where ill gladly discuss all my poker thoughts/hands etc, all welcome: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...os-192003.html

    6-max NLHE, micro-small stake player
  21. #21
    Your stats don't look that bad to me, though you should attempt to steal the blinds a bit more from LP, and get your PFR up a little bit (stop limping or calling raises!). You're nicely aggressive, though looking at these hands, I wonder at the spots you pick.

    Hand 1: 89s Simple fold Pre-Flop. You're going to be OOP for the rest of the hand with a very mediocre holding. If I HAD to play it because the CO is raising my blinds a lot, then I would actually 3-bet out of the SB. Calling is bad here. The flop lead is good, but I would like to see a little larger bet here than 1/2 pot, every other flush draw is coming with you also. Nice value bet on the turn, but this should be a SUPER easy fold to the push. CO is raising into TWO people here... he WANTS to be called. This would be a much closer decision if it was HU. This is very rarely a bluff, I'd be Very surprised if he showed down less than a K-high flush here.
    Hand 2: AKo Re-buy! 3-bet Pre-flop, take charge of the hand if you are going to be OOP for the rest of it. Check raise is good on this flop. Your turn bet looks like you are scared? Are you? I'd bet closer to $2.50 - $2.80 and then SHUT DOWN, you'll only get more action from hands that beat you. Check/call or Check/fold river depending on your read of Villian, and his bet size...
    Hand 3: JTs What are you doing here? Pre-flop is bad because of villians stack size. Do you have a plan? Are you seriously chasing a gutshot and a BD flush draw? Flop call is bad, you don't have ANY odds... Turn call is just as bad, especially with villians stack size, if you were going to bluff at any point, the turn would've been the place to do it. River looks exactly like what it is, a bluff. You looked like you were on the Spade flush draw the entire time.

    I hope I don't sound too harsh, I just want you to understand that these are pretty good examples of FPS; You had many opportunities in these hands to lose less money, but convinced yourself of the wrong play! Happens to all of us, just learn from it and move on to the next hand of SOLID POKER.
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  22. #22
    THanks for the help. Its harsh, but I need to hear it, helps me out in the long run. Thanks again for the help both of you.
  23. #23
    Well I have made a switch from the 6Max tables to the Full Ring after dropping down from $120 up to up $1.




    Best Hand:

    FTR Hand History Converter Output (intended for copying and pasting into poker forums!):
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($9.80)
    Button ($17.40)
    SB ($8)
    BB ($8.25)
    Hero ($11.10)
    UTG+1 ($13.45)
    MP1 ($14.30)
    MP2 ($4.60)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5, 5.
    Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, 4 folds, BB checks.

    Flop: ($0.35) 5, Q, A (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.10.

    Turn: ($0.55) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.5, MP1 raises to $1, Hero raises to $2, MP1 raises to $3, Hero raises to $10.9, MP1 calls $7.90.

    River: ($22.35) 2 (2 players)

    Final Pot: $22.35

    Worst Hand:
    FTR Hand History Converter Output (intended for copying and pasting into poker forums!):
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($9.85)
    Button ($9.70)
    SB ($9.90)
    BB ($10.10)
    UTG ($11.70)
    UTG+1 ($10.75)
    MP1 ($31.85)
    MP2 ($9.40)
    MP3 ($4.70)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J.
    2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.6, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $1.8, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 raises to $4.7, Hero calls $0.70.

    Flop: ($10.15) 3, 4, 9 (2 players)

    Turn: ($10.15) 2 (2 players)

    River: ($10.15) 8 (2 players)

    Final Pot: $10.15
  24. #24
    TPTK loses in a hand I should have been out of against this very TAGG.

    FTR Hand History Converter Output (intended for copying and pasting into poker forums!):
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG+1 ($4.45)
    MP1 ($0.55)
    MP2 ($15.45)
    Hero ($26.60)
    Button ($9.85)
    SB ($3.25)
    BB ($2.90)
    UTG ($2.85)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.6, Button raises to $2.2, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.45 (All-In), Hero calls $1.60.

    Flop: ($5.20) A, 8, Q (3 players, 1 all-in)
    Hero bets $1.2, Button raises to $3, Hero raises to $7.7, Button calls $4.65 (All-In).

    Turn: ($20.55) 5 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($20.55) 2 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $20.50


    Very small sample on both players.
    PokerStars Game #19697757540: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/17 - 20:34:24 (ET)
    Table 'Henrietta IV' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: DigiSlarks ($13.90 in chips)
    Seat 2: torrecca ($5.35 in chips)
    Seat 3: LittleSunday ($5.75 in chips)
    Seat 4: rivergazer ($6.40 in chips)
    Seat 5: Chaz11771 ($5.90 in chips)
    Seat 6: dyetcoke ($10 in chips)
    Seat 7: comandanteM ($8.80 in chips)
    Seat 8: CBat28 ($7.05 in chips)
    Seat 9: Uglux ($1.85 in chips)
    Chaz11771: posts small blind $0.05
    dyetcoke: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Jc Jd]
    comandanteM: folds
    CBat28: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    Uglux: raises $1.45 to $1.85 and is all-in
    DigiSlarks: folds
    torrecca: folds
    LittleSunday: folds
    rivergazer: folds
    Chaz11771: folds
    dyetcoke: calls $1.75
    CBat28: raises $5.20 to $7.05 and is all-in
    dyetcoke: calls $5.20
    *** FLOP *** [Ks 8s 5s]
    CBat28 said, "JJ"
    *** TURN *** [Ks 8s 5s] [2d]
    *** RIVER *** [Ks 8s 5s 2d] [Js]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    dyetcoke: shows [3d 3s] (a flush, King high)
    CBat28: mucks hand
    dyetcoke collected $9.85 from side pot
    Uglux: shows [As Kc] (a flush, Ace high)
    Uglux collected $5.35 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $16 Main pot $5.35. Side pot $9.85. | Rake $0.80
    Board [Ks 8s 5s 2d Js]
    Seat 1: DigiSlarks folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: torrecca folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: LittleSunday folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: rivergazer (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Chaz11771 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: dyetcoke (big blind) showed [3d 3s] and won ($9.85) with a flush, King high
    Seat 7: comandanteM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: CBat28 mucked [Jc Jd]
    Seat 9: Uglux showed [As Kc] and won ($5.35) with a flush, Ace high
  25. #25
    dude I only looked at the 55 hand above but one piece of advice, when you feel like you have the best hand and you want money in the pot, BET BET BET and BET BIG!!!! People LOVE to call. That's what the like to do most so give them something to call. Don't expect other people to do the betting for you. Yeah sometimes they might fold and you feel like you wasted a chance to win a big pot but the increased size of the pots you win when they don't fold more than makes up for these times when they fold.
  26. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
    dude I only looked at the 55 hand above but one piece of advice, when you feel like you have the best hand and you want money in the pot, BET BET BET and BET BIG!!!! People LOVE to call. That's what the like to do most so give them something to call. Don't expect other people to do the betting for you. Yeah sometimes they might fold and you feel like you wasted a chance to win a big pot but the increased size of the pots you win when they don't fold more than makes up for these times when they fold.
    He was a very aggressive player and had bet/raised me many times, so I felt like I could benefit from a check/call. But I see where you are coming from.

    Here is a fun hand from this morning session. Kind of made my session!

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 ($13.20)
    Hero ($27.55)
    CO ($10.50)
    Button ($9.80)
    SB ($11.45)
    BB ($6.80)
    UTG ($6.30)
    UTG+1 ($10)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5, 4.
    UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 raises to $0.4, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.30.

    Flop: ($1.35) 2, K, 3 (3 players)
    UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $1.3, Hero raises to $3, UTG raises to $5.9, UTG+1 raises to $8.8, Hero calls $5.80.

    Turn: ($24.85) 7 (3 players)
    UTG+1 bets $0.8 (All-In), Hero calls $0.80.

    River: ($26.45) 6 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $26.45
    Main Pot: $26.45, between Hero and UTG+1. > Pot won by Hero ($26.45).

    Results in white below:
    UTG has (straight, seven high).
    UTG+1 has As Ks (one pair, kings).
    Hero has 5h 4h (straight, seven high).
    Outcome: Hero wins $26.45.
  27. #27
    nh
  28. #28
    Well I have figured out some holes in my game that I am working on plugging. I find myself calling too much money on the river just because my curiosity gets the best of me.

    Just finished a session down .5 buy in due to getting rivered once on an all in, and then getting runner runnered on 2 all-ins after the flop, including my AA getting cracked. But I feel that I am playing very good poker.

    I am currently up $41.
  29. #29
    Great success!

    I have had outsanding success so far since switching to $10NL FR (from $10 6-max) over the past week. Over only about 5K hands in the past week due to working about 40 hours trying to make some $$ before I go back to college.

    How do my stats look? I'm surprised at my AF! (UPDATED, had the graph here by mistake).


    And my Graph...


    Here are a few fun hands.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($9.65)
    MP1 ($13.90)
    MP2 ($6.25)
    Hero (CO) ($10.85)
    Button ($17.85)
    SB ($10.40)
    BB ($9.15)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 3 3
    2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.30, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

    Flop: ($1.00) 3 3 J (3 players)
    SB checks, MP2 bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.10

    Turn: ($1.30) A (3 players)
    SB checks, MP2 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.60, 1 fold

    River: ($2.60) 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $3.00, SB raises to $9.40 (All-In), Hero calls $6.40

    Total pot: $21.40 | Rake: $1.05

    Results in white below:
    SB had J J (full house, Jacks over threes)
    Hero had 3 3 (four of a kind, threes)
    Outcome: Hero won $20.35


    Villain was an erratic post flop player, put him on AQ or AK. I'll take these post flop odds of winning anyday!

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP2 ($4.65)
    CO ($9.60)
    Button ($15.75)
    SB ($8.45)
    Hero (BB) ($9.85)
    UTG ($9.90)
    UTG+1 ($7.00)
    MP1 ($8.20)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 9
    3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, MP2 calls $0.40

    Flop: ($1.05) 7 6 J (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.00, MP2 raises to $4.15 (All-In), Hero calls $3.15

    Turn: ($9.35) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($9.35) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $9.35 | Rake: $0.45

    Results in white below:
    Hero had 9 9 (one pair, nines)
    MP2 had A K (one pair, Aces)
    Outcome: MP2 won $8.90


    Villain eventually lost almost the rest of his money to me. He was just a straight maniac/calling machine. (Good combo)!

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (MP2) ($10.80)
    MP3 ($9.70)
    CO ($10.00)
    Button ($9.95)
    SB ($11.60)
    BB ($10.75)
    UTG ($26.10)
    UTG+1 ($9.40)
    MP1 ($8.75)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A A
    UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.60

    Flop: ($1.55) K 6 10 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

    Turn: ($4.55) J (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $4.00, UTG calls $4.00

    River: ($12.55) Q (2 players)
    UTG bets $6.00, Hero calls $4.60 (All-In)

    Total pot: $21.75 | Rake: $1.05

    Results in white below:
    UTG had 5 6 (one pair, sixes)
    Hero had A A (straight, Ace high)
    Outcome: Hero won $20.70





    I am very pleased with my play. I've played a little too aggressive at times and I have been on a few heaters at this limit.

    My bankroll is currently at $226. I'm looking forward to increasing this and taking a shot at $25NL (although I have a ways to go). At what bankroll would be a good time to increase limits, $500?
  30. #30
    Still rolling! The Bankroll has increased to $283. I'm having a spectacular time doing it! I have increased my tables to 6, while sometimes running 8, but I find 8 a tad overwhelming at times, so at 6, I get about 350 hands per hour.

    My sessions usually last between 60-90 minutes and when I find myself making poor decisions/calls/folds that I feel that I would not usually make, I either calm myself down or what I will usually do is end my session.

    Since moving to .10NL FR I have had 8/9 winning days, with 6 out of the 8 winning days with a winning rate of over 18BB/100. What a great feeling. I plan on increasing my bankroll to $500 before increasing to $25NL.
  31. #31
    Hey! Congrats on the recent success!

    Stats are looking pretty solid (18/13) and yes, your AF is pretty darn high, you don't call very much (except Pre-flop? Tighten that up just a smidge IMO)

    $500 is probably the minimum you should have to be playing at $25NL. It all depends on your tolerance for variance, and how many buyins you would like to set your stoploss at (in case you have to move back to $10NL) Personally I waited until I had 25 buyins ($625), but some people even wait until 30 or even 40! buyins to move up... If you do move up at $500, set yourself a reasonable point to move back down if the bad beats start rolling in (probably at $250 - $300) Oh, and DON'T change your game at all when you move up, the players are just as bad, there's just more money on the table!
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  32. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisBCritter
    Oh, and DON'T change your game at all when you move up, the players are just as bad, there's just more money on the table!
    Nice deal, thats what I was banking on (no pun intended ^_^).

    What should I tighten up? My preflop calling you think?
  33. #33
    Hey man, I am right there with you. I am currently at 5NL, currently at $270BR, almost to 10NL.

    My one critique of your posts is that I think you are missing what makes winning poker winning poker.

    You post a lot of big pots where you made a "bad call" or some guy sucked out on you. That's not what its all about. Its all about calculating ranges and figuring out your equity based on that.. in a simplified form, if you feel like you will win X% of the time or better vs a guys range, then you should either call, not call, or raise based on that.

    There are people on this site that can post about this much much better than me. It was when I read the digests here that my eyes were really opened.. now when I make a play, I know exactly why I am, there is almost no guesswork involved... just play the percentages based on your best read possible and let the cards fall where they may. Sometimes the cards are hot, sometimes they are cold.. but knowing you WILL win over time brings a lot of peace of mind and is very anti-tilt.

    So my biggest advice is, don't post the big all in hands... posts the ones where you are unsure of minor nuances here and there in small to medium pots and get advice on those. They are the ones that will make you rise above mediocrity.

    My second biggest advice is to work on the preflop play.. watch some of the videos posted by spenda and company.. they are masters of preflop betting vs ranges. Improving your preflop play will make the biggest immediate difference!

    I hope this meaningless rambling post helps! lol

    Tj
  34. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw
    Hey man, I am right there with you. I am currently at 5NL, currently at $270BR, almost to 10NL.

    My one critique of your posts is that I think you are missing what makes winning poker winning poker.

    You post a lot of big pots where you made a "bad call" or some guy sucked out on you. That's not what its all about. Its all about calculating ranges and figuring out your equity based on that.. in a simplified form, if you feel like you will win X% of the time or better vs a guys range, then you should either call, not call, or raise based on that.

    There are people on this site that can post about this much much better than me. It was when I read the digests here that my eyes were really opened.. now when I make a play, I know exactly why I am, there is almost no guesswork involved... just play the percentages based on your best read possible and let the cards fall where they may. Sometimes the cards are hot, sometimes they are cold.. but knowing you WILL win over time brings a lot of peace of mind and is very anti-tilt.

    So my biggest advice is, don't post the big all in hands... posts the ones where you are unsure of minor nuances here and there in small to medium pots and get advice on those. They are the ones that will make you rise above mediocrity.

    My second biggest advice is to work on the preflop play.. watch some of the videos posted by spenda and company.. they are masters of preflop betting vs ranges. Improving your preflop play will make the biggest immediate difference!

    I hope this meaningless rambling post helps! lol

    Tj
    I post these hands because I thought that they'd be the most entertaining hands of the session! I feel that I make some very good decisions and also some poor one. I'm learning from my mistakes and I do know that I will win over time and have come to grips with that recently. I also have not tilted in a while, which is good. I've become much more disciplined.

    I will look into spenda's preflop plays and I will stop posting my big all in hands and start showing the ones where I have had tough decisions (Although they can be hard to remember after playing for a few hours). And thanks for the constructive criticism.

    BR: 302
  35. #35
    PT3 FTW... are you using it?

    Write down the hand # right afterwards so you can go back to it later..keep a notepad next to you.. it may seem like a hassle but reviewing hands is a key to improvement.

    GL!

    Tj
  36. #36
    I have made the jump to $25NL under rolled! I have about $200 to spare with in my checking account to add to my bankroll in case. And I plan to drop back down if I drop 3 buy-ins. So far so good - up a little over 1 buy-in, in a 350 hand session.

    Villain is 50/17/2. I feel that my bet on the turn showed that I was scared of that club and I should have made it $4?

    PokerStars Game #19878626868: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/08/25 - 00:23:14 (ET)
    Table 'Celaeno V' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Somania ($23.75 in chips)
    Seat 2: spiderspike ($21.75 in chips)
    Seat 3: snesgamer ($25.95 in chips)
    Seat 6: sharky2323 ($23.65 in chips)
    Seat 7: jonyctt ($37.05 in chips)
    Seat 8: rdgoins ($43.75 in chips)
    Seat 9: CBat28 ($29.80 in chips)
    CBat28: posts small blind $0.10
    Somania: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Ah Kh]
    ryanroubos10 joins the table at seat #4
    spiderspike: folds
    HelpMeJesus9 said, "what book did i play that incorrectly by?"
    snesgamer: folds
    sharky2323: folds
    jonyctt: folds
    rdgoins: folds
    Somania said, "reload or remove yourself, you're wasting a spot"
    CBat28: raises $0.75 to $1
    Somania: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [8c Tc Kd]
    CBat28: bets $1.50
    Somania: calls $1.50
    *** TURN *** [8c Tc Kd] [6c]
    CBat28: bets $2
    Somania: raises $4 to $6
    CBat28: ???

    I folded.
  37. #37
    You are setting yourself up for failure! Have patience.

    If that $200 is part of your bankroll, then it is, don't falter on this. Seperating your bankroll from your personal finances is very necessary at any level. 3 buyin stoploss? why? That doesn't give you much wiggle room, I go on 3 buyin swings nearly every other session.

    As far as the hand goes, A flush is a good portion of his range for sure, but it's also blind vs blind.

    Flop needs to be closer to post size or more to drive out the odds for the flush draw, and yes the turn bet needs to be larger, so that if he raises, it's a relatively easy fold. As played, a fold isn't terrible here, but I'd be tempted to call, and check/call a smallish bet from this villian on the river.
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  38. #38
    $200 to play 25nL is suicide man. I have had a few 10+ buy in downswings playing 25NL.

    Even the best players in the world would not attempt to play with less than 20 buy ins, and in fact, most people that play for a living have double the buyins in their working bankroll than you would have when just building a roll.

    I would read all of the posts on here about BR management. Its more about freedom and comfort than anything. Would you be willing to stack off with an open ender and flush draw knowing its for 1/4 of your br? Are you going to hesitate to stack off preflop to a guy running 70/40 preflop with 1010-QQ? How about what you do when you hit that 10 high flush and the other guy shoves?
    So please read all the posts.. 'rilla wrote a great one. Theres another one I recently that drew parallels between playing poker and going camping in the winter time in a place like Alaska. Firelogs are your bankroll. Would you stack only 5 or 6 logs for the entire winter? Or would you pile about 1000 of them to the ceiling to make sure you didn't have even a remote chance of running out? You BR is basically you. With insufficient firewood, you die in a few days; with 4 buyins, it will take less than a few days.

    The best advice I can give.. never deposit money again in your life... ever. What's your rush anyways? Poker is a lifetime game...
  39. #39
    lol, you guys are right. Although I felt like I played the way I usually do, I was scared doing it. I did not feel comfortable when making bluffs (even though I did and took down 2 pretty big pots this way).

    You've talked me into getting back on the grind. I'm up $268, my bankroll is currently at $288 because I gave my buddy $80 to play with and he threw me $80 cash.

    Time to get back to grinding at $10NL
  40. #40
    That's smart man. Now you can play a lot more relaxed. Remember, we are doing this for fun right? Just sit back and enjoy the ride.. revel in the big pots won and immediately forget the beats. Otherwise it can stop being fun fast.

    I am at 10NL as well now, BR at $317 after a short session today... so we are about on the same path. Last one to 100NL is a rotten egg

    Tj
  41. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw
    That's smart man. Now you can play a lot more relaxed. Remember, we are doing this for fun right? Just sit back and enjoy the ride.. revel in the big pots won and immediately forget the beats. Otherwise it can stop being fun fast.

    I am at 10NL as well now, BR at $317 after a short session today... so we are about on the same path. Last one to 100NL is a rotten egg

    Tj
    Haha, to your post a couple times ago, I am using PT3 right now. I have about 35 days left on my free trial. I'll most likely purchase it after that is over. Definitely worth it when multi-tabling.

    I doubt I'll be to $100NL very soon. I start up in my 5th semester of college on Thursday, so poker time will be tough to come by. I'm planning on trying to get about 10-12 hours a week for poker, in between starting Junior classes/homework, ladies , parties, and my campus job with the intramurals and recreation.

    I played about an hour today at $10NL and finished up about $6, but I entered a 180 man $4 SnG with a friend and got about 80th losing QQ to AJ. I didn't have many chips though, so I can't blame him.

    BR: 270.60 (all profit, I have lent out the remainder of my $100 in exchange for cash to various friends).
  42. #42
    Well, after sending my computer in to get it fixed THREE TIMES, it is finally working again. I've been at school for the past week and got in about 1K hands today, finishing up a buy in at $10NL.

    My only problem is, IDK if my college's network can handle Pokerstars? I've played 2 sessions, and a few times during each session it would not allow me to finish out a hand. I would click an option and then it would sit there for 30 seconds before sometimes timing out, and sometimes moving ahead very fast.

    Luckily it caught up in time when I flopped my nut flush and had a raise and a reraise all in, in front of me and took down a $33 pot. Otherwise I would have been a little upset.

    Anyone have any ideas on a remedy for this problem?
  43. #43
    Pokerstars is unlikely to be the problem. It is a very small program. It is likely your internet connection at college. I have this same problems sometimes when playing on wifi.
  44. #44
    Well that sucks. I guess I'll just have to make my poker playing time for off hours, or play in the library where we have a better connection.
  45. #45
    Well tonight I had no problems connection wise (minus me trying out $25NL again because I'm an idiot). Lost about $15 at 25NL in 20 hands? and then won about a buy-in at $10NL in 200 hands.

    My goals for this coming month are going to be much lower due to being back at school, having a part time job and the new SOCOM beta coming out on Friday.

    I'm going to try to play 12K hands (400 per day) and maintain a 10BB/100 winrate. This would be $100 for the month and put my bankroll back to about $270. I plan to move up to $25NL sometime in November.

    BR: $275

    In plain terms.
    Goals for September:
    12K hands
    10bb/100
    Do not play anymore $25NL until I get to $500
    Play a couple cheap (less than $5) MTT.
  46. #46
    Well my connection has been great as of late. I got in about 1400 hands yesterday running at a mediocre 5.5BB/100.

    This was actually the bulk of my hands for the month. Over half. I've been slacking, saying I shouldn't play because I need to do homework or something along those lines and then I'll watch television for an hour.

    I 8-tabled all day and felt like I easily had enough time to make decisions. Here are a couple hands that I felt like I had to fold.

    Something felt fishy about this hand on the flop, which is why I only called.

    PokerStars Game #20244308626: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/09/08 11:28:10 ET
    Table 'Begonia' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: CBat28 ($9.85 in chips)
    Seat 2: Prolifik0119 ($10 in chips)
    Seat 3: Adriano1231 ($1.85 in chips)
    Seat 4: petrovic7 ($10.85 in chips)
    Seat 5: rapacefr ($4 in chips)
    Seat 6: oror ($13.25 in chips)
    Seat 7: xxTottixx ($8.45 in chips)
    Seat 8: Timbaz ($10.15 in chips)
    Seat 9: High%InMny ($7.80 in chips)
    petrovic7: posts small blind $0.05
    rapacefr: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Ah Kc]
    oror: folds
    xxTottixx: folds
    Timbaz: folds
    High%InMny: raises $0.20 to $0.30
    CBat28: calls $0.30
    Prolifik0119: folds
    Adriano1231: folds
    petrovic7: folds
    rapacefr: calls $0.20
    *** FLOP *** [9d Ts As]
    rapacefr: checks
    High%InMny: bets $0.40
    CBat28: calls $0.40
    rapacefr: raises $1.10 to $1.50
    High%InMny: raises $1.50 to $3
    CBat28: folds
    rapacefr: raises $0.70 to $3.70 and is all-in
    High%InMny: calls $0.70
    *** TURN *** [9d Ts As] [4d]
    *** RIVER *** [9d Ts As 4d] [Ac]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    rapacefr: shows [9c 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Aces)
    High%InMny: shows [Ad Tc] (a full house, Aces full of Tens)
    High%InMny collected $8.35 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $8.75 | Rake $0.40
    Board [9d Ts As 4d Ac]
    Seat 1: CBat28 folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: Prolifik0119 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Adriano1231 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: petrovic7 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: rapacefr (big blind) showed [9c 9s] and lost with a full house, Nines full of Aces
    Seat 6: oror folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: xxTottixx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Timbaz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: High%InMny showed [Ad Tc] and won ($8.35) with a full house, Aces full of Tens

    I had about 80 hands on this person and they were 8/6. After the turn 88-AA (minus KK) beats me.

    PokerStars Game #20259137377: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/09/08 21:55:42 ET
    Table 'Peiroos' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: CBat28 ($7.55 in chips)
    Seat 2: GolfBeerLuv ($11.60 in chips)
    Seat 3: raymond7094 ($8.85 in chips)
    Seat 4: netblack ($9.85 in chips)
    Seat 5: Inesiite ($12.20 in chips)
    Seat 6: Und3rtow ($8.05 in chips)
    Seat 7: Rotodyne ($13.65 in chips)
    Seat 8: ezza44 ($5.60 in chips)
    GolfBeerLuv: posts small blind $0.05
    raymond7094: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CBat28 [Ks Kd]
    netblack: folds
    Inesiite: calls $0.10
    Und3rtow: folds
    BP-TheOne joins the table at seat #9
    Rotodyne: folds
    ezza44: folds
    CBat28: raises $0.40 to $0.50
    GolfBeerLuv: folds
    raymond7094: calls $0.40
    Inesiite: raises $0.70 to $1.20
    CBat28: raises $1.30 to $2.50
    raymond7094: folds
    Inesiite: calls $1.30
    *** FLOP *** [Qc Ts 8s]
    Inesiite: checks
    CBat28: bets $1.50
    Inesiite: raises $1.50 to $4.00
    CBat28: calls $2.50
    *** TURN *** [Qc Ts 8s] [9c]
    Inesiite: bets $3.70
  47. #47
    Some more mediocre play on my part going on in the past few days. I just feel like I don't have it as I did when I was playing well at the end of August.

    I have been playing a decent amount of tournaments and doing shitty in them. I placed in a .10 and .25 buy in for a little bit of money. And I played in the $10, $30K guaranteed yesterday afternoon. I was playing great and had double the average chip stack with about 650 people left with the bubble at 540. I had QQ and raised, the player behind me, who had called every1 of my raises called. Flop came K52 and I bet he calls, I bet again he raises minimum - TIME TO FOLD, well I ddin't, I overplayed the QQ and ended up becoming crippled and busting out about 5 hands later just before the money. I learned that I DONT need to win every hand! Lay it down with losing 2/5ths of your chips, it's better than becoming crippled to needing to move all-in afterwards.

    The positive part of my tournaments is that I feel like I can win everyone! I've been reading soupie's guide on MTT and it has been helping. I plan to stay out of the $10 buy ins and stick to the $0.10 - $3 buy-in tournaments.

    My buddy, who was down about $120 who I had kept lending money to because one, I knew he was good for it, and two, I know how good of a poker player he is, finally got a big win. He had won a $4.40 and 180 man and a $2.20 180 man tourney, but had then played out of his bankroll even though I showed him many times this site. Well he played in the $3.30, 3K guaranteed tourney last night and took it down for $860. I am very proud of him and again I am going to preach to him to make sure he plays in his bankroll.

    This month after 3600 hands I am up $42 playing cash (-$15 from $25NL and +$57 at $10NL. My winning rate is at about 6.5BB/100 which is far lower than I would like. I would like to be around 8-10/100 at this level. And then from tournaments I am down about $30, so overall I am up about $12 on the month. Better than losing!

    BR: $285
  48. #48
    Well this month I have opened up my play from the Button. Running at about 23/19 and 4.55 cold call. I am down about $25 from the Button! Which is the most out of all of my positions.

    I'm not exactly sure what to change from this position.

    Anyways, I'm up to $322 and I'm up about $110 this month from cash after 7,711 hands. 7.15BB/100. So I'm about on pace for my 12000 hands (a little behind, but I feel like I can bump it up in the last 10 days). I am comfortable 8-tabling now. I bumped it up to 12 and felt overwhelmed, so my buddy said why not drop back down to 8. This gets me just over 400 hands per hour. So to meet my 12K goal, I need to play about 10 more hours (1 hour a day) for the rest of the month. I plan to get in some good playing tonight and tomorrow during the day.

    BR: 322
  49. #49
    Good steady climb there man.

    Purely hypothetical, but do you think that you might be carrying your bluffs too far from the Button? How many times have you C-Bet into more than 1 opponenet? 2-barreled, and then folded? Called down lighter? Just looking for areas that you can look to find the problem! And if nothing is there, then just gonna have to chalk it up to variance!
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  50. #50
    Well this month went okay. I didn't meet any of my requirements besides playing in some cheap MTT (and losing most of them). I've started playing one table of $25NL to try and get accustomed to it. Been about break-even there. Down $35 in the first couple days this month though.



    So it was an alright month, kind of evened out at the end, I still can't seem to break that $300 mark for good. I keep staying in between $300 and $330.

    Goals for October:
    6BB/100
    10,000 hands
    Play 1 or 2 $25NL tables per session.
  51. #51
    I've taken a hiatus from poker playing again. I ended up cashing out $300 on pokerstars. I have turned $50 into $115 on fulltilt thanks in part to a $35 bonus that they offered me about a month ago, but over the past few weeks I haven't been playing at all.

    I went to Turning Stone Casino a few weekends ago. Brought $200 with me, and lost a quick $100 with my King high flush to someone pairing the board on the river for their boat.

    I then had a great time. I went to get a bite to eat, came back at a different table with $80 and basically took all of the money from the maniac at the table. When I sat down he had about $300. I busted him and I had about $320 when I got up from the table about 2 hours later.

    I then played some penny slots to pass the time while my buddy finished up playing. By accident I bet the maximum which was either $2 or $3 and won $48 on that spin.

    I will probably start playing again come XMas time due to me being in between semesters. The only problem is that my free trial from pokertracker has now expired, so I may be forking over the cash to use it over xmas break.

    Go JETS!

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