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 Originally Posted by bigspenda73
Could you discuss Implied Odds as it relates to Omaha. I feel I have less implied odds in Omaha due to the fact that opponents will just not stack off when scare cards hit.
Because of this I have a greater tendency to be more aggressive with my draws b/c I feel like
1. I will not get paid off if I complete my hand making calling a pot sized bet getting 2:1 incorrect
2. I create the greatest chance for fold equity against other draws as well as against 2pr/bottom set type hands.
Lastly, could you explain value betting when the scared card comes completing your (most of the time obvious) draw.
That's a hard question to answer. I'll make some preliminary musings, and think about it some more during dinner
1. A good time to call is in a multiway pot where you have the draw to the nuts. NFD facing a flop bet of about 6-10 BBs and there's another 2 callers between you and the bettor. Perfect time to flat call. You don't want to raise and eliminate worse draws.
2. In fact, flat calling the flop with an 8 or 9 out draw is never that bad.
3. You need to make a read. If you're playing against someone who can make folds you bet and raise your draws. If you're playing against someone who just won't fold, call and you'll get implied odds.
4. A good spot to call is if you have a nice draw, lets say a 13 out straight draw and the pot on the turn is $100, and you both have $150 behind. When villain pots it for $100 to you, there's no point raising. Because you know he can't get away from the last $50 if you hit your straight, but you can lay down your no-pair if he bets the last $50 on a safe river.
5. Generally, OOP dictates betting and last to act dictates calling. If you go check-call check-call bet when the scare hits on the river, you're not getting paid off. But it's significantly more difficult for your opponent to fold if he's checked to you and you make a half pot bet. If he consistently folds, then you're going to make a lot of value off him every time you half pot a scare card that doesn't make your hand. Whereas if you've been betting with a NFD and your opponent is chasing with a Q or K high or a straight draw and you hit the river and pot it again, you'll get paid.
6. If there's any non-negligible chance you're winning right now, you have to be betting and raising. AA+NFD is one of these spots.
7. If you need to eliminate opponents, bet and raise - e.g. 789T with a 9-high flush draw on a A96 board is an ideal time for this. Because the ace is out there, the most likely draw that actually beats you is not available. So stuff like Q/J/T-high flush draws are more likely to fold to your show of strength and you clear your outs. But if it's heads up you can call a PSB because your opponent won't be sure what draw you've got and will have to pay you off a bit.
8. The more possible draws there are, the more implied odds. That's just what Sklansky says in NLHP and it applies to Omaha too.
9. When in doubt, play your draws aggressively. I don't know if it applies at your stakes, but if you want to play your made hands fast (as you almost always do), then you need to balance.
10. Heads up against a competent opponent if you don't think raising is a viable option in the circumstances with a NFD and nothing else, and you're facing a large potsize bet with no other draws on the board, you'll want to fold.
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