Quote Originally Posted by XTR1000
Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
So I did give him correct odds. To give him incorrect odds...hmm, I tried doing this mathmatically and couldnt, anyone know the formula?
Amount to bet be "z"

You want z / pot + z + stack(effective) -z > villians equity

or z > villians equity * (pot + z + stack(effective) - z)
z > villians equity * (pot + stack(effective))

So with numbers from your first example

z > .22727 * (45.5 + 38.84)
z > 19.16
Thanks, I had similar but not quite, must have gotten myself confused.

One thing that occurs to me though, whatever he's calling with, be it TPTK, 2P, Set, he's going to end up on the river with a tiny stack/pot ratio. Even with my $15 bet, he's going to have less than $25 left with a pot of $75, can he really fold if he misses on the river? So theres definately reverse implied odds on his behalf to consider as well as the implied odds. Even if say he only calls half the time on the river, that $15 bet is effectively $27 which is easily enough.

I think thats valid reasoning anyway.

Quote Originally Posted by Keith_MM
do you find that those general styles of play maintain through the different levels or do they differ between levels on a site.
Yeah, so far I have. It was the same from 25nl to 50nl on Everest, the same from 50nl to 100nl on iPoker and the same from 50nl to 100nl on Everest. I'm not sure why its the case, I can only assume its a bit of a case of monkey see, monkey do. They learn off each other.

Quote Originally Posted by Keith_MM
Also found the devonshire tea reference above amusing as I don't think you could get much further away from Devon.
Lol true, but devonshire tea's are very popular in Australia, definately one of my favorite snacks!!


Quote Originally Posted by daven
agreed. I had a bad experience reading about non-showdown winnings and trying to make mine better. 4 buyins later I gave up, and now I've won it back with value bets...
Yeah, I'd really been working on (and having success with) barrelling and representing ranges, and really focusing on my aggression on Everest, and it just backfired here. Hopefully at 100nl I can work that stuff back in, because it sure makes poker more interesting, but for now its mainly back to grinding value bets.