Operation: This is how your really SmashEm

Thanks guys.

Griffey, thanks for the comments here are my thoughts:
1 - You may be correct that 40bb/100 might not be sustainable, but with that said I have seen many people say that even 15bb/100 isn't sustainable unless you are some sort of pro. I truly believe that a high winrate, whether its 40bb or even 25bb is in fact sustainable... but time will tell. This is primarily because of table selection and the fact that I am playing with terrible players on a regular basis.
2 - As far as the redline, I agree, if you are smashing it then just keep smashing it. However, the reason I am focusing on my redline is because it is a tell tale sign that I am "off my game". If you look at my chart, you will see my winrate slowed down between 8-16k hands... this is 100% due to redline going down, folding too much etc... I have the redline back under control now, and will post more about this soon as I plan to talk about redline winnings soon.
3 - I have thought about it, infact years ago I played over 1 million hands 2-tabling and 4-tabling. However, single tabling is precisely why I believe I can maintain a high winrate. I am constantly studying villains, their play, hand histories on the go etcc... whereas I do not have the time for this when multitabling and I turn into auto-pilot mode.
4 - you are correct here and I agree. My only reasoning behind targeting 40bb is because I truly believe my style and strategy is not very susceptible to "running bad". There are so many ways to keep your greenline moving upwards at this stake it is crazy. Long story short, I believe if I am playing my A game, I will hit 40bb every month, regardless of how many "cold decks", "bad beats" or "coolers".

#4 has a lot to do with my next post later today or tomorrow, which is about "diversifying" your play by utilizing an arsenal of every style there is. (Tagg/Lagg etc...).

Originally Posted by langaan

TI truly believe my style and strategy is not very susceptible to "running bad".

i've run bad from time to time, and i've run pretty hot occasionally too.
run set under set a few times then lose a few more 80-20s than you expect for a while, then run into tops of ranges and have your bluffs called at higher than standard frequencies for a bit and that's some runbad. It happens. The

the higher your true winrate in the games you sit, the more likely it is that you will be ahead of breakeven when the runbad hits = if you're still winning maybe it doesn't count as runbad quite the same

Originally Posted by griffey24

2. Under the assumption that even if 40bb/100 isn't attainable, that a good winrate is. I would NOT worry too much about your red line. If you're killing it, just keep killing it. Only the green "total winnings" line matters.

Griffey/Daven, I would agree with this statement if I were speaking to a beginner who is just getting on their feet, on the premise that redline winnings are maybe something that shouldn't be focused on when you are learning how to play the game. But realistically, and I mean know disrespect, but I believe the redline winnings is one of biggest, if not the biggest, indicator of post flop play.

In my personal opinion, the redline is equally as important as the blue line, and if each of them isn't given the correct amount of attention/improvement, then there is $$ left at the tables.

see picture of my graph that shows where my redline problems began, when they were resolved, and teh effect of my winrate (greenline)

** Note that the blue line showdown winnings is consistent all the way through, so there is no correlating loss of showdown value when my non-showdown improves.

You will see in the chart that I lost control of my redline for 10K hands, and it cost me just under 40 buy ins. You can also see that my winrate nearly doubled as soon as I stabilized the redline again.

give me your thoughts guys, im really interested in some discussion about this that isn't like the million pi$$ing contests we can read about re: redline winnings lol....Attachment 818