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  1. #1
    first AK hand out of the 2 you just posted is pretty luls, hand number 2 WP NH ect (oh and lol at that guy folding the flop in a 3b pot)...

    back to number 1 the only one that really needs discusison


    1- raise a lot more preflop
    2- raise moer on the flop
    3- i guess you can call turn cause its such a small bet but id be folding there a lot considering so much shit just got there..(or shoving if you had built the pot like you were supposed to)
    4. Check that river bra, you are multiway and you already said way behind their ranges, i guess you have to call the shove cause lol pot odds but you are rarely good here.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics View Post
    1- raise a lot more preflop
    2- raise moer on the flop
    3- i guess you can call turn cause its such a small bet but id be folding there a lot considering so much shit just got there..(or shoving if you had built the pot like you were supposed to)
    4. Check that river bra, you are multiway and you already said way behind their ranges, i guess you have to call the shove cause lol pot odds but you are rarely good here.

    1. yea im a f'in moron no idea what that was about
    2. do u like .50c here?
    3.eh i feel like this is so marginal i tend to agree that folding is best as there's almost nothing we beat here
    4.see #1
    <yaawn> "dude you need to give up childish shit like your job, any hobbies, your girlfriend, then u'll get good"


    "I hear u screamin girl but my name aint haaarder"

  3. #3
    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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    5 Players
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    Stacks:
    UTG BarSib ($19.09)
    CO ownzora ($5)
    BTN JaeDonk ($8.86)
    SB phenomofpokr ($10.20) 43/7 over 166 hands
    BB Hero ($44.77)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) Hero is BB
    3 folds, phenomofpokr calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.15, phenomofpokr calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.30, 2 players)
    phenomofpokr checks, Hero bets $0.20, phenomofpokr raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.20


    1.i cbet here because villain will be continuing with alot of worse "big" aces(aj, aq) straight draws, etc

    villains reraise range:66-22,AJs+,A5s-A2s,74s+,64s+,54s,43s,AQo+,A5o-A2o

    2.the call .2/.5+/2=28% i need 28% to call his reraise and have ~43% so i think its a good call




    Turn: ($1.10, 2 players)
    phenomofpokr bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50


    villains range:66-22,AJs+,A5s-A2s,AQo+,A5o-A2o

    i become a slight favorite here, i def dont want to stack off here so i think c/c was a good line.
    River: ($2.10, 2 players)
    phenomofpokr bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

    draws all miss, a3 only has 3 combos, 33 is not possible, im a ~55% favorite here but still dont want to raise because his raise calling range would be something like 66-44,22,A5s,Ad3d,A5o,Ac3d,Ah3d,As3d which i have 0 equity against.





    Last edited by pdk1010; 09-04-2010 at 07:13 PM.
    <yaawn> "dude you need to give up childish shit like your job, any hobbies, your girlfriend, then u'll get good"


    "I hear u screamin girl but my name aint haaarder"

  4. #4

    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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    Stacks:
    UTG peeoouu ($5.34)
    UTG+1 Hero ($5)
    CO phlay ($7.06)
    BTN Shpongolese ($5)
    SB la_brujaa ($2.52)
    BB mickey12111 ($5.19)

    villain is 9/2 over 45 hands
    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
    1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, la_brujaa goes all-in $2.52, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.32

    at first when i looked at this hand i thought
    my call was pretty bad as his range for 3bet
    shoving here would be JJ+,AKs,AKo and im 42 %
    to win the hand but after i thought about it
    i wondered what my entire range would be for
    calling here and it would be KK+,AKs which makes
    my range much stronger than his

    after thinking about this further i wanted to
    find out what range i could profitably call
    in this situation.

    if villain 3bet shoves JJ+,AKs,AKo then we can
    profitably call 99+,AQs+,AKo

    i am hesitant to include jj in his range so a
    range of QQ+, aks, ako we can profitably
    call tt+,aqs+, ako

    this is interesting as i didnt think we
    could call with a range this relatively wide.

    so i want to find out what we could
    profitably shove given positions were reversed:

    villains assumed utg raising range:
    77+,A8s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KJo+,QJo

    ~19% of this range calls our shove, ~81% folds then:

    EV = (% villain fold)(current pot) + (% villain calls)(our equity)(bet+pot) - (%villain calls)(his equity)(bet)

    0=(.81*.27)+(.19*x*(2.32+.27))-(.19*(1-x)*2.32)


    x=23.6%

    since ATC has ~25% equity against QQ+,AKs,AKo
    we can profitably shove any cards were dealt if
    we know he will only call with this range.


    assuming my math is correct(BIG assumption)
    what does this mean?



    well i think that this means

    1. against super nitty villains it is profitable to
    shove ATC against utg, utg+1 ranges
    (obv not every time they open)

    2. as an utg opener we have to be willing to
    call a wider range to 3bet shoves to avoid
    being exploited like this
    <yaawn> "dude you need to give up childish shit like your job, any hobbies, your girlfriend, then u'll get good"


    "I hear u screamin girl but my name aint haaarder"

  5. #5
    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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    Stacks:
    UTG Hero ($11.14)
    UTG+1 Alektra42 ($5.55)
    CO Shpongolese ($12.50)
    BTN la_brujaa ($3.03)
    SB Annemeu ($10.34) 40/3 over 90 hands limps ax hands from lp
    BB peeoouu ($7.46)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is UTG
    Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, Annemeu calls $0.18, 1 fold

    villains lp flatting range:
    99-22,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J4s+,T6s+,95s+,84s+,74s+,64s+,53 s+,43s,A2o+,K9o+,QTo+,J7o+,T8o+,98o

    Hand 0: 34.559%

    { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 95s+, 84s+, 74s+, 64s+, 53s+, 43s, A2o+, K9o+, QTo+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o }


    Hand 1: 65.441% { AhKh }

    i think my open here should be for 6xish instead of 4, my reasoning for this is that 1. ldo i have a very strong hand 2. i have 3 relatively nitty players behind(all running 14/10ish over 80+ hands) the bb is also a nit running at 11/10 over 94 hands and the small blind is flatting here WAY to much.

    in order to exploit/amplify his mistake of calling to much a 6x open is much better imo

    Flop: ($0.45, 2 players)
    Annemeu checks, Hero bets $0.35, Annemeu calls $0.35

    1.this bet should be a psb

    villains c/c range:
    99-22,A2s+,K8s,Q8s,A2o+,J8o,J8s

    Hand 0: 21.956% { 99-22, A2s+, K8s, Q8s, J8s, A2o+, J8o }
    Hand 1: 78.044% { AhKh }


    1.bigger preflop open allows me to make a larger psb on the flop which helps to further exploit the fact that only 38/218 combos are beating me that he is continuing with here to that bet


    Turn: ($1.15, 2 players)
    Annemeu checks, Hero bets $2.50, Annemeu calls $2.50

    BOOOOOOOOM PDK BONKS HAND AND FUCKS HIMSELF

    1.wtf is the >2x pot overbet about? im sure i was thinking that i wanted to get stacks in here on the river but wtf is he calling this bet with that i have beat?

    villains c/call >2xpsb range:
    88,66,33,AKs,A8s,A6s,A3s,AKo,A8o,A6o,A3o

    Hand 0: 83.471%

    { 88, 66, 33, AKs, A8s, A6s, A3s, AKo, A8o, A6o, A3o }

    Hand 1: 16.529%

    { AhKh }

    Moral.....well played dumbass

    anyway a better line here is a psb, im still ahead of his flatting range here and i can probably fold if i get c/r as his range would be the same as above


    River: ($6.15, 2 players)
    Annemeu goes all-in $7.29, Hero calls $7.29


    who the f knows what i was doing here f'in retarded imo im not beating anything at all ever here.

    so raise to 6-7x pre in this situation where post will be pretty straightforward if one of the nits calls, also will exploit sb's tendencies and be very profitable in the long run

    turn/river-cost of learning??? at least thats what ill tell myself.
    Last edited by pdk1010; 09-05-2010 at 03:39 PM.
    <yaawn> "dude you need to give up childish shit like your job, any hobbies, your girlfriend, then u'll get good"


    "I hear u screamin girl but my name aint haaarder"

  6. #6
    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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    Stacks:
    UTG Kupuscsikaja ($4)
    CO G4mbler4life ($4.38) 24/14 over 94 hands pt3 preflop stats attached
    BTN Hero ($16.99)
    SB Sangsue1 ($13.24)
    BB AwesomeLuck ($8.34)



    Pre-Flop: ($0.12, 5 players) Hero is BTN
    [Kupuscsikaja posts $0.05]
    Kupuscsikaja checks, G4mbler4life raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, Kupuscsikaja folds, G4mbler4life raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, G4mbler4life goes all-in $4.38, Hero calls $2.13

    villains CO opening range:
    22+,A2s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,5 3s+,43s,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+

    villains 3bet range:
    99+,AQs+,KQs,AQo+,KQo

    villain has 3 bet 1 time out of 31 chances...although this is a small sample i think i can assume he is 3betting a relatively tight range here.

    Hand 0: 44.391%

    { 99+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }

    Hand 1: 55.609%

    { AcKc }
    ---------------------------------------------
    villains 6bet shoving range:JJ+,AQs+,AKo

    Hand 0: 54.347% { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }
    Hand 1: 45.653% { AcKc }


    whats interesting here is that i dont think villains 3bet range changes from his 5bet shove calling range. given that fact i should have 5 bet shoved here as i manipulate his range to be slightly weaker than the way preflop played out.

    regardless of this 2.13/8.88=24% so either way i have plenty of equity to call here but 5bet shoving is more profitable because his calling range would be slightly wider than his 6bet shove range.

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    Last edited by pdk1010; 09-06-2010 at 01:24 AM.
    <yaawn> "dude you need to give up childish shit like your job, any hobbies, your girlfriend, then u'll get good"


    "I hear u screamin girl but my name aint haaarder"

  7. #7
    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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    Stacks:
    UTG DarthT8r ($5)
    CO muchachit960 ($1.84)
    BTN bignevola ($4.44)
    SB markentosh ($5.43)
    BB Hero ($8.14)

    villain is 31/16 over 49 hands with a 43% ats and a 100% call 3bet (2/2)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) Hero is BB
    2 folds, bignevola raises to $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, bignevola calls $0.20

    villains btn opening range and his continue to 3bet range are identical here i think also given his call 3bet stat up to this point i think a 3x 3bet is too small and a 5 or 6x is better as it exploits the fact that he's flatting too many 3bets more.

    villains open/call3bet range:22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J7s+,T7s+,96s+,85s+,74s+, 64s+,54s,A2o+,K8o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T8o+,97o+,86o+,75o+,6 4o+,54o

    Flop: ($0.62, 2 players)
    Hero checks, bignevola checks

    i have no idea why i checked here its f'in retarded. PSB is so std especially with fd

    Turn: ($0.62, 2 players)
    Hero bets $0.50, bignevola raises to $1, Hero raises to $1.75, bignevola goes all-in $4.14, Hero calls $2.39

    as played lead should be more .60c is good, his range that he's stacking off with

    range:TT-99,33,A9s+,A3s,A9o+,A3o

    we have 40% equity against his range here, we need >call/call+pot so 2.39/2.39+6.51 which is about 27% so call is good here.

    the flop i played terrible but as played i think the turn isnt too bad, could have avoided this spot by playing the flop better but live and learn
    Last edited by pdk1010; 09-05-2010 at 11:32 PM.
    <yaawn> "dude you need to give up childish shit like your job, any hobbies, your girlfriend, then u'll get good"


    "I hear u screamin girl but my name aint haaarder"

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