Quote Originally Posted by Spoonitnow
The way to calculate post odds:
to call / (call + pot) So to call $10 to win a pot of $25 is 10/35 = 0.286 = 28.6%
Like Muzzard said, you're adding the 2 together and so all your previous maths makes sense. Though I am still confused how 1/4 works out as 25% by doing it my way and NOT by adding the 2 sides together.


10/25 is 10 in 25 (1 in 2.5). And "TO" is always 1 more than "IN" if the ratio is of the form x:1.
Not sure what you mean by this. I understand IN/TO as such:
1 in 10 means 9:1 as out of 10 you win 1 and lose 9. And that 1 in 5 is 4:1; 1 in 20 is 19:1 etc.


Quote Originally Posted by TonyB73
Thunder, there's nothing wrong with your calculations, your problem is your starting assumptions. Calling $10 in a pot that already has $40 in it is 10 in 50, or 1 in 5, or 4:1.
Spoon/Muzz, as you have stated I am wrong and that bet/pot is a TO ratio and not an IN ratio - then Tony - who confirmed my maths is correct - is actually wrong also, yes?

We both saw calling $10 to win $50 as 1 in 5 (4:1) but by your reckoning of call / (call + pot) it's 10/(10+50) x 100 = 16.67%???


In all sincerity, this could explain why you've not made it farther in poker.
I only play SNGs and am quite happy with my progress. Up to a week ago I had taken my last $20 deposit to $500. Am not making tens of thousands but after one year how many are? As you know, SNGs are far more simplistic than cash and my main issues have been tilt and optimum play on the bubble onwards (ICM). Just these 2 alone can set a +ROI.

FWIW, reading/ranging opps and acting accordingly is what I believe will take me to the next level. And it's the one aspect I haven't a clue on and desperately want. That is when I will stop seeing myself as a beginner and can see definite "skill" in practice. And then I'll feel more confident to tackle cash.