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  1. #1

    Default Operation-Once A Week Is Plenty

    A while back I agreed to wait a week to check my BR. Overall I was about even but I didn't really tilt the entire week. Afterwards I went back to looking at the BR before a session, after a session and sometimes during a session. What a dumbass. Now I'm going to go back to once a week. I'll only look at my BR on Sunday as I don't usually play on Sundays. I need to figure out how to review a session using HEM without seeing the $$ results.

    The last time I looked at the BR it was about $833. That was Monday. I'm sure it's less than that now as I've lost a full BI 3 times with a set of Ks but I won't look til Sunday.

    I've almost finished "No Limit Holdem T&P" but I haven't really thought about it in great detail yet. This is the first time I've read a poker book as the material on FTR has been enough to help me learn a great deal.

    I'm still at 25NL which is an accomplishment in itself.

    What I'm gong to do to get better:
    -Watch a ton of vids on GS, over and over
    -Read T&P again
    -Review sessions
    -Weekly review on Sundays
    -work on them ranges. I think watching vids will help this. I watched one of M2M's vids and he's good about discussing villian's ranges while playing
    -Update this Op on Sundays

    Previous Ops:

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...fr-178134.html

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...er-176675.html

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...nl-168480.html

    I've also re-subscribed to GS as previously I watched all 6-max vids but I need to watch some FR vids. Plus my hero, M2M is now there providing vids and I know he's a FR God but a bit of a luckbox. I do have to remind myself that "oots" means "outs"

    I'm playing mostly 20-50bb games and 50-100bb games. I had been playing 6 tables but recently I added 2 or 3 more. This does seem to keep me from playing in hands I don't need to be playing out of boredom but it seems like I fold for 30 minutes and then get a playable hand on 6 out of 8 tables. I'm playing at about 11/8/2 which is a big nit. After vacation I wasn't really motivated to play and I don't know why. Or at least I didn't know then. Now I know that I didn't want to play because I was finally at 25NL and wanted to stay there a while. If I don't play, I can't lose. So when I did play I was looking at the BR alot and tilting when I would lose any hand. That's the main reason for this OP.

    Non Poker Related:
    Vacation was excellent. Ate alot and drank alot and fished a little. Saw a little oil in the water in Panama City Beach as we were leaving.

    Started lifting weights again about 2 month ago. It's been about 15 years since I lifted. I lifted regurlarly during college (all 7.5 years) and for the first few years afterwards. That marriage thing will do it. Anyway, I'm doing lots of reps as opposed heavy weight. I have plenty of bulk but I need some definition as I'm 6'3" and 275 lbs. I'm essentially doing the same workout I did back then but with less weight. When I entered college I weighed 168. After my first year I weighed 220 and after the second year I weighed 240. All from lifting. The additional 35 lbs is NOT from lifting unless you count a fork and a beer.

    I'm trying to get better at golf but I'm not playing golf. I seem to enjoy going to the driving range more than actually playing golf. So I'm practicing more than I'm playing. Use this approach to poker?
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  2. #2
    How about only looking at your bankroll when you think it's time to move up/down or make a withdrawal... since that's really the only time it matters. That may be some nice +EV for you.
    Last edited by donkfish; 06-25-2010 at 02:01 PM.
  3. #3
    Only been looking at stats/BR every week or so. Results are about what I expect. I know I'm not winning so I don't look because looking will only quantify the losses and probably awaken the tilt monster. I start a session up then end up losing it to coolers or I start a session down and almost get back to even by the time I'm done. Or I'll win 2 or 3 BIs one day and lose them the next day (Tuesday and Wednesday were almost the exact amount). June graph looks like a heartbeat and July graph looks like the heart stopped on a downswing. For July I'm running 5 BIs below EV

    At the first of the month, I lost 2 BIs in about 5 minutes and went on major tilt and lost 2 more before I quit by shoving small pocket pairs. This has made it difficult to get ahead for July and I will not do that stupid shit again. I went on super tilt because I tilted so bad. What a Dumbass

    I think I'm actually playing better than I ever have even though I'm not winning with the exception of what happened above. I've managed to play at 25NL since about April without going busto. Bonuses are bailing me out every few weeks. I put a couple hands in the BC for review and I'm going to try to do this more often.

    -Watch a ton of vids on GS, over and over-Watching the same videos over and over from M2M, Jyms, Killsaids, Coderedrules, etc
    -Read T&P again-Pass, but I'm going to start reading it once again
    -Review sessions-Pass
    -Weekly review on Sundays- I have been doing this but I haven't posted anything cause I don't want to keep whining about AA geting cracked and my set losing to oversets
    -work on them ranges. I think watching vids will help this. I watched one of M2M's vids and he's good about discussing villian's ranges while playing-Definitely been doing this. M2Ms vids help alot
    -Update this Op on Sundays-Fail

    No Worries...

    Non poker related:
    Shot 91 last week in golf with a 42 on the back nine. Best score ever on 9 holes.

    Still lifting...
    Last edited by Sasquach991; 07-15-2010 at 02:12 PM.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  4. #4
    Just like to say it's def +EV in poker and IRL to focus on playing well and not the results. Congrats on the fantabulous back nine score!
  5. #5
    Gettin frustrated and need some help. All 25NL FR with 20-50bb and 50-100bb tables. FR is not supposed to be this swongy, right?

    Graph for June



    Graph for July



    Positional stats for June/July





    Let me know what other stats you want. I'll post hands too tomorrow.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  6. #6
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    i want to see some more stuff:

    1) fr customised position report that breaks it down to 9 positions
    then a standard report (e.g. the 'by stakes' or whatever) with
    2) cbet (i'm guessing low)
    3) fold to cbet (i'm guessing high)
    4) fold to preflop 3b
    5) graphs with red line included for lols


    initial comments tho
    a) it's ok to stack off with hands that aren't the uber-nuts, KK overpairs may not be the ubernuts, but...
    b) it's ok to cbet bluff
    c) it's ok to call a cbet when ahead of villain's range
    d) it's ok to raise a cbet
    e) it's not ok to play badly vs the 20bb bots
    f) it's ok to call (not raise) with a set sometimes
    g) it's important to differentiate the bad fish from the bad regs, and you should play differently against players from each category

    get in irc and talk poker. Take your biggest 25 pots (winning/losing both) and post them to weaktight, stopping action at the important decision. Before coming into irc to discuss these hands, note down the reads you have on villain(s) in each of them. These reads are the # of hands you have on villain plus all stats you display on your HUD. Put them to the irc ordeal by fire, one by one.
  7. #7
    redline..



    stats

    Last edited by Sasquach991; 07-17-2010 at 05:02 PM.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  8. #8
    Position-FR . I didn't know how to customize this so I found one to download. Hopefully it's right

    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  9. #9
    I'm going to get on IRC today and post some of these hands. This is about half of the top winners/losers.

    "a) it's ok to stack off with hands that aren't the uber-nuts, KK overpairs may not be the ubernuts, but..."

    Hand 1

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    5 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    44/3/8 over 33
    9% 3bet
    Stacks:
    UTG ($10.38)
    CO ($12.50)
    BTN ($6.12)
    SB ($15.94)
    Hero ($18.74)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.60, 5 players) Hero is BB
    [CO posts $0.25]
    UTG calls $0.25, CO checks, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG calls $1.25, CO folds
    Flop: ($3.35, 2 players)
    Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2
    Turn: ($7.35, 2 players)
    Hero bets $3.50, UTG goes all-in $6.88, Hero calls $3.38
    River: ($21.11, 2 players, 1 all-in)
    Final Pot: $21.11


    Hand 2

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    22/12/2.5 over 277
    4% cbet
    41% steal
    Stacks:
    UTG ($10)
    UTG+1 ($31.64)
    MP1 ($15.76)
    MP2 ($28.31)
    MP3 ($63.54)
    Hero ($25.50)
    BTN ($33.29)
    SB ($25.10)
    BB ($25)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is CO
    4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 3 folds
    Flop: ($1.85, 2 players)
    MP3 bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25
    Turn: ($4.35, 2 players)
    MP3 checks, Hero checks
    River: ($4.35, 2 players)
    MP3 bets $2.25, $2.25 to Hero ($23.5)?
    Last edited by Sasquach991; 07-19-2010 at 10:35 AM.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  10. #10
    Hand 3

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    27/5/1.1 over 62

    Stacks:
    UTG ($36.09)
    UTG+1 ($24)
    Hero ($34.45)
    MP2 ($28.62)
    CO ($18.50)
    BTN ($18.87)
    SB ($25.23)
    BB ($33.15)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is MP1
    2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75
    Flop: ($3.10, 3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, BB folds
    Turn: ($6.10, 2 players)
    Hero bets $3.80, BTN calls $3.80
    River: ($13.70, 2 players)
    Hero ($28.15)?


    Hand 4

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    27/5/1.1 over 62

    Stacks:
    Hero ($36.81)
    UTG+1 ($29.72)
    MP1 ($25)
    MP2 ($5.40)
    MP3 ($30.15)
    CO ($10.43)
    BTN ($31.47)
    SB ($29.60)
    BB ($16.86)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is UTG
    Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1, 4 folds
    Flop: ($2.35, 2 players)
    Hero bets $1.50, MP3 raises to $3, Hero calls $1.50
    Turn: ($8.35, 2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets $5, $5 to Hero ($32.81)?

    Hand 5

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    31/14/0.5 over 52
    44 % steal
    Stacks:
    UTG ($35.37)
    UTG+1 ($25.35)
    MP1 ($27.55)
    Hero ($25.79)
    MP3 ($27.29)
    CO ($30.73)
    BTN ($25.79)
    SB ($25)
    BB ($26.24)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is MP2
    3 folds, Hero raises to $1, MP3 calls $1, CO calls $1, 3 folds
    Flop: ($3.35, 3 players)
    Hero bets $3, MP3 calls $3, CO folds
    Turn: ($9.35, 2 players)
    Hero ($21.79)?
    Last edited by Sasquach991; 07-19-2010 at 10:36 AM.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  11. #11
    Hand 6


    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    18/13/2.7 over 420
    51% steal
    5% 3bet
    47% fold to 3bet
    Stacks:
    UTG ($10.35)
    UTG+1 ($18.70)
    MP1 ($32.45)
    MP2 ($11.25)
    CO ($2.75)
    Hero ($27.57)
    SB ($25.61)
    BB ($25)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BTN
    UTG says "for sure u got the nuts me fold", 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $6, UTG says "when u got the nuts u raise really fast", BB goes all-in $25, $19 to Hero ($21.57)?


    Hand 7

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    7 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    16/15/6 over 57
    33% steal

    Stacks:
    UTG ($25.05)
    UTG+1 ($28)
    MP ($26.33)
    CO ($21.77)
    BTN ($28.92)
    Hero ($25.10)
    BB ($33.26)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 7 players) Hero is SB
    2 folds, MP raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, MP calls $2
    Flop: ($6.25, 2 players)
    Hero bets $4, MP calls $4
    Turn: ($14.25, 2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $9.50, $9.5 to Hero ($18.1)?


    Hand 8

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    69/27/1.5 over 78
    40% steal
    14% 3bet
    50% cbet
    Stacks:
    UTG ($4.65)
    UTG+1 ($29.34)
    Hero ($21.08)
    MP2 ($4.50)
    CO ($4.90)
    BTN ($0.95)
    SB ($27.67)
    BB ($13.21)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is MP1
    UTG+1 says "lol", 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.95, Hero calls $0.95, 4 folds, BB calls $0.70
    Flop: ($2.95, 3 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $4.75, $2.75 to Hero ($18.13)?
    Last edited by Sasquach991; 07-19-2010 at 10:37 AM.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  12. #12
    Hand 9

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    47/5/2 over 20
    Stacks:
    UTG ($15.23)
    UTG+1 ($29.25)
    MP1 ($5.30)
    MP2 ($5.47)
    MP3 ($5.60)
    CO ($5)
    Hero ($13.32)
    SB ($6.45)
    BB ($10.83)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is BTN
    6 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50
    Flop: ($1.60, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.50, $1.5 to Hero ($11.57)?


    Hand 10

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    12/11/3 over 109
    100% cbet
    10% 3bet
    Stacks:
    UTG ($10.35)
    UTG+1 ($25.07)
    MP1 ($20.89)
    MP2 ($33.15)
    CO ($34.98)
    Hero ($28.24)
    SB ($23.30)
    BB ($25.25)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BTN
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds
    Flop: ($3.10, 2 players)
    MP2 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50
    Turn: ($6.10, 2 players)
    MP2 bets $5.50, $5.5 to Hero ($25.49)?


    Hand 11

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    Stacks:
    UTG Quadfours ($57.53)
    UTG+1 MadDogFerg ($25)
    MP1 guille180 ($25)
    MP2 jimt2112 ($25.95)
    CO Ljuti_Gusar ($27.12)
    BTN Hero ($27.51)
    SB mhc888 ($31.89)
    BB wizard80209 ($19.64)
    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BTN
    4 folds, Ljuti_Gusar raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, Ljuti_Gusar calls $1.50
    Flop: ($4.85, 2 players)
    Ljuti_Gusar checks, Hero bets $3.50, Ljuti_Gusar raises to $8.50, Hero calls $5
    Turn: ($21.85, 2 players)
    Ljuti_Gusar goes all-in $16.37, Hero ??
    Last edited by Sasquach991; 07-19-2010 at 10:38 AM.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  13. #13
    Sup Sasquach. I'd like to hear what Daven says if/when he drops in.

    IMO You're a little weak-tight it appears. Steal about 10% more, cbet about 10% more. 3bet could be a bit higher too, but w/e. Overall, be a tad more aggressive. Raise more, fold more and call less, so to speak. As for the hands, my opinions may not be the best, but I'll chime in nonetheless.

    H1 - NH
    H2 - raise flop
    H3 - bet flop harder
    H4 - bet more on flop, bet/fold turn
    H5 - bet turn, plan SPR, get the monies in
    H6 - 4bet shoves are the nuts @ 25NL FR unless he's a maniac/short/retarded
    H7 - bet/fold turn
    H8 - um, shove?! 3 combos of 88 and AK chop, everything else you crush
    H9 - call or put him in on flop, he's doing this with 9x, gutter balls, smaller pairs as opposed to 99, 55, 66, and 65 (where he'd C/R or lead turn - but he's a fish so who knows); this hand kinda tilts me
    H10 - zomg you have a ton of outs
    H11 - 3bet or fold flop, calling puts us in a weird turn spot when we know he's going to bet

    I get the feeling you're going through a phase of "he's got the nuts-itis". If you're feeling frustrated, dropping down for a week can do a poker mind good.
    Last edited by StarGrinder; 07-19-2010 at 11:15 PM.
  14. #14
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    preflop your stats look mostly fine. A few comments though, as always. Also, for future ref, you can click the header box of the position report and it will order the report top to bottom per position which makes it easier reading.

    1) I think that you can/should c-bet more often given the huge strength of your preflop ranges.
    2) You can steal more too, 19% is way low. You should be opening wider from cutoff and button particularly.
    3) Your play vs 3-bets is interesting, i'm not sure how much of that 40% non-folding is calling and how much is 4-bets, but I hope you aren't calling AK and 99-QQ for set/confused value...

    ok, comments on hands:

    hand 1 - AhKh.
    preflop is nice. Plop is nice and turn is fine as well. Villain is repping a very narrow range, and sure he has TJ occasionally, but also AQ/KQ/Asxs even raw AJ/AT/A3 sometimes. You basically have no option but to stack top two vs a likely fish, especially when you're only 40bb deep.

    hand 2 - QhQc
    call or 3b are both fine preflop. 3b is probably better with your nit image vs an MP open, just because villain's range isn't that strong and you'll auto-fold when he c-bets any A/K high flop, and not raise other flops for value/protection when you should. Flop is a raise most of the time, and river is a fold or raise as played. Villain typically has KK/Ax and checked the turn cos he's scared of flushes after your call on the flop and now is trying to play river value catch-up. You should consider raising this river as bluff
    (flushes and JQ both heavily in your range, villain has very few flushes in his range and you block JQ pretty hard), but villain is unlikely to be good enough for this bluff to be decent. Know your villain and probably fold this time.

    hand 3 - AhAd
    cbet bigger cos it doesn't influence his calling range much. As played it's interesting cos effective stackes are messy, villain has less than pot behind and you have an overpair. This is one of those spots where bet-fold is not an option and you have to bet cos there is value to be had. I mean, if you shove i think you're ahead > 33% of the time when he calls, so shoving is +EV. Is this optimal? difficult to say. In this spot i'd wonder what his fold to c-bet stat was (it's on my hud) before i played turn, as played and i guess i'd just shove and hate seeing 55/QQ but, meh, what can you do.

    hand 4 - AsKh
    you have to put villain on a range on the flop before you call. There are no draws out there, so i doubt he is raising with worse than AQ -> folding is ok.... turn is interesting cos you now beat A6 and AJ so you can pretty much just bet-fold the turn cos he's gonna station the stuff you beat and raise his JJ/66 sub-range.

    hand 5 - 9c9h
    preflop great
    flop and i think your c-bet is a little too big, but it works out great
    turn and it's interesting, note that whatever size you choose will leave you feeling pot committed vs a river diamond, so bet-size to deny villain implied odds on the flush draw and note that you are not folding on any river. Shoving is ok. So is potting cos flush draws only have 7 outs (not 9 cos 4d/8d boats etc). Pot is better cos you can still get calls from his KQ sub-range that will snap-fold vs a shove.

    hand 6 - AhKd
    hero doesn't 4b without a plan. I mean, stats show that villain is a playmaster, but you don't really want him 5b shoving JJ here cos you get lost and are behind his range. Calling the 3b pre is best unless you are confident that villain will continue with AQ vs a 4b. As played it's gross cos you just know that villain has you crushed most of the time, but it's bu vs blind and you got da AK. I fold vs a bunch of villains here and don't tell yaawn/the irc about it. Given your nit image i think this is even more of a fold cos villain is probably aware/has a hud up.

    hand 7 - AdAs
    3b bigger out of position. 4x is good. Bet-fold turn $8 as played, or check-fold if you can read souls. Just don't check-call cos it's gross.

    hand 8 - AcKh
    call pre is ok vs a nit sometimes, but wtf vs a 70-30? vs a 70-30 and holding AK this is 3b/5b/get it in however you can preflop. As an aside, vs a nit open from ep i prefer 3-betting AK/AQ and flatting AA/KK. There is an interesting recent post touching on this in the FR forum i think. Anyway, you got da dreaded check-raise from a maniac when you hold top trips top kicker. You're only behind A8/88 and he can take this line for value with AT... I just cib in this spot, he's never folding and nor are you.

    hand 9 - JsJd
    hero considers a fold vs the c-raise, or calling and trying to get to showdown cheap.

    hand 10 - AhKh
    3b pre vs the obvious TAG iso. Flop is ok i guess, but think about what you are maybe doing. Calling for value vs AQ? Drawing to 6 outs vs QQ? Lost? as played this turn is an interesting spot where you can shove or call. Shoving as semi-bluff is interesting cos your line is consistent with 88/33/22 which are all in your range, and you have between 7 and 15 outs when called. You also have ok implied odds to the far from obvious flush, so calling isn't terrible.

    hand 11 - KdKs
    pre-flop is fine, so is 3-b to $2.75.
    Without reads you can just fold to the flop c-raise, his range here is like TJ/TT-AA/QdKd/AdKd/AdQd. He doesn't really have QJ here often enough for your call to be good. Remember that any villains that have a HUD will think you're ubernit, so he's expecting you to have KK+ here always.
    Last edited by daven; 07-19-2010 at 10:19 PM.
  15. #15
    Thanks for the feedback daven and SG. I went to IRC and got some feedback on several hands that were in the top 25 winners and losers for June and July. If you haven't done this in awhile you need to do it. I have a few more hands from the last couple days I want to get some feedback on.

    IRC seems to have changed a bit since the last time I was there (about a year ago). There's still nonsense chat but when a hand is posted it drops off alot and you get some good analysis, even from the nonsense chatters although they may be drunk/high/retarded/allthree.

    Thanks also to Daven for the extended private chat in IRC. Really opened my eyes to perspective. I've been at FTR for nearly 2 years and I'm still in the micros and I've also made $500 in withdrawals. So what. I'm still a winning player and have not made a deposit since 10/08 and I'm playing 25NL which I thought I would never be doing.

    I'm going to post some hands later today here and in IRC and also try to participate in hand analyses in the forums more.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  16. #16
    Villian was 12/5/0.9
    Notes said he would call down with any pair. Calls with overs
    Plan was to value bet every street. I think I coulda made the bets bigger but I didn't want him to fold.
    River bet was weak as 55 is def in his range.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
    MP1 ($25)
    MP2 ($19.97)
    MP3 ($47.56)
    CO ($10)
    Button ($26.75)
    SB ($20.85)
    BB ($16.11)
    Hero (UTG) ($35.32)
    UTG+1 ($25.85)
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
    Hero bets $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 4 folds, Button calls $1, 2 folds
    Flop: ($3.35) 8, 2, 6 (3 players)
    Hero bets $2, UTG+1 calls $2, Button calls $2
    Turn: ($9.35) 4 (3 players)
    Hero bets $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4
    River: ($17.35) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $5, Button calls $5
    Total pot: $27.35 | Rake: $1.32
    Last edited by Sasquach991; 07-23-2010 at 12:12 PM.
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    2.35 on the flop, 7.50 on the turn. River is meh... That card sucks for us quite a bit. But at this point you basically have to put it in. Could easily be calling with 99-JJ. his stats make this spot really suck but whatever, sometimes the board just runs out horrible.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post
    2...Could easily be calling with 99-JJ. .
    This... which is what I figured.

    I've been getting reamed alot for my bet sizing in the BC. Seems I making too small of bets in pots where I think I'm ahead but I'm giving villian odds to call. Lately I've been bloating pots with TP type hands and getting drawn out on and losing alot. I guess I was betting less so I would lose less if their hands hit. Gotta work on the bet sizing...
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  19. #19
    On a brighter note, I finally broke 90 in golf.



    Last edited by Sasquach991; 08-02-2010 at 09:45 PM.
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  20. #20
    Posted this in BC and it was tranferred to Tilt forum for obvious reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991 View Post
    No idea what range to put him on for turn and river?
    The plan was to play an effin hand as I was card dead all night.
    The real plan was 2pair, str8 draw or at least hit a FD. I planned to get to sd with TP. If turn Ten didn't come I was just trying to get to SD.

    I'm getting sick of this shit. Do I have to fold every hand on the damn river?

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 Players
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    10/8/3 over 3k
    5% 3bet

    Stacks:
    UTG ($25)
    UTG+1 ($43.54)
    MP1 ($30.26)
    Hero ($26.30)
    CO ($29.11)
    BTN ($49.96)
    SB ($21.79)
    BB ($25)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is MP2
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold

    Flop: ($3.25, 3 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($3.25, 3 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 bets $2, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $5, UTG+1 folds

    River: ($15.25, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB goes all-in $15.79, $10.79 to Hero ($15.3)?


    Trying to value bet this one and trying to play an effin hand too...

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 Players
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    16/10/1.7 over 200
    2% 3bet


    Stacks:
    UTG ($39.39)
    UTG+1 ($25.35)
    Hero ($25.35)
    MP2 ($25.31)
    CO ($23.87)
    BTN ($25)
    SB ($26.58)
    BB ($24.30)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is MP1
    2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold

    Flop: ($2.25, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

    Turn: ($5.25, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $3.50, SB calls $3.50

    River: ($12.25, 2 players)
    SB bets $12.75, $12.75 to Hero ($19.35)?



    One more for the hell of it

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
    50/10/0.9 over 20
    17% 3bet

    Stacks:
    UTG ($4.65)
    UTG+1 ($11.45)
    Hero ($12.50)
    MP2 ($4.35)
    CO ($13.52)
    BTN ($16.52)
    SB ($14)
    BB ($4.75)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is MP1
    2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold

    Flop: ($2.25, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

    Turn: ($6.25, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4

    River: ($14.25, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero ($5.5)?


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    Once I move up a few levels, we should do a sweat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by !Luck View Post
    Sasquach991,

    Once I move up a few levels, we should do a sweat.

    -!luck
    I don't have a problem with doing one now. Let me know if you want to via PM
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  23. #23
    Every time I spew or tilt I will immediately take a break and do 10 pushups. I only make it 10 as I'll prob have to do 100 over a session. My family is going to think I've lost my mind.

    Finished 8th in the FTR500
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991 View Post
    Every time I spew or tilt I will immediately take a break and do 10 pushups. I only make it 10 as I'll prob have to do 100 over a session. My family is going to think I've lost my mind.

    Finished 8th in the FTR500
    you gonna get strong dude.
    nice work on cashing a tourney
    re some hands:
    hand 1 - fold pre. As played it's all good and don't fold.
    hand 2 - fold river, nice hand
    hand 3 - turn bigger, river check back most of the time cos bluffing two pair here makes little sense
  25. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    you gonna get strong dude.
    After a couple of days doing the spew/tilt pushups...



    Running fairly well for a change...
    Last edited by Sasquach991; 08-18-2010 at 01:15 AM.
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  26. #26
    Haven't seen one of these in a while.
    Difference in being TAGG instead of Weak tight (See sig)
    18% hitting set helps too.

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    Keep it up man.
  28. #28
    I think I play better without an OP because I'm less results oriented.

    A good way to end this OP:




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  29. #29
    Hell yea! So no more OP? or new OP? Whatev, good luck crushin.
    Explain...what I do for a living without saying "I make monies in da 600 enels by pwnin' tha donk bitches". Instead I say "I'm a online financial redistribution broker". - Sasquach991
  30. #30
    grats on the 1k

    this is typically the point where money stars flowin in
  31. #31
    niceeee dude congratz!
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