Operation: Own FR properly

I just started grinding FR cash games maybe 4 months ago after playing nothing but MTTs and SnGs initially. Someone told me they were more 'dynamic' and I'm inlined to agree.

I started with $50 at 25NL & got up to $150 before I heard anything about bankroll management. When I heard I needed $500 to play 25NL, I decided to be an asshole and keep playing 25NL until I was rolled for it. I got lucky, made it up to $500, then kept on going.

Here's my long-term plan. It's fairly aggressive (reckless) compared to what some of the BR nits recommend, but the money isn't really important to me in that I don't rely on it to pay the bills, and I've got no problem dropping back down when I have a bad streak...done it more than a few times.

25NL till $800, drop down at $700
50NL till $2200, drop down at $2000
100NL till $5000, drop down at $4500
200NL till $11000, drop down at $10000
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Thread posted at $1700.

I'm sure I'm in for a harsh slap in the face at the higher stakes, but I can take it. I've been sucking up information like a sponge, learning tons, reading books, posting hands (thank you FR forum) and my game feels tighter than it ever has now.

Honestly, this little project has just been like playing a role playing game. Building enough experience points until I can 'level up' to where the monsters are tougher, but give you more XP. That's honestly my perspective on it.


No idea why I posted this....uhhh....wish me luck? ...or better yet, skill?

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BR Log:

Apr 1 - 1700
Apr 12 - 2700
Apr 18 - 2900
Apr 23 - 4000
May 14 - 4100
May 20 - 4400
June 2 - 5200
June 7 - 6000
June 11 - 7500
<withdraw 600 / cooler>
June 17 - 5700

Sounds like we're in very similar situations, except I sort of need the money to pay the bills lol. The difference between poker and an RPG is you never know what you're going to get. I an RPG you play for an hour and get x amount of xp. In poker you can play good for an hour and get dicked

What site do you play on? if Stars we've probs run into each other.

GLGLGL

Originally Posted by badgers

Sounds like we're in very similar situations, except I sort of need the money to pay the bills lol. The difference between poker and an RPG is you never know what you're going to get. I an RPG you play for an hour and get x amount of xp. In poker you can play good for an hour and get dicked

What site do you play on? if Stars we've probs run into each other.

GLGLGL

Yeah, RPGs you don't often lose XP . Damn it sucks playing for hours and losing XP.

I'm on UB at the moment. Been bonus whoring around to speed up my progress, though the UB bonus is hardly very 'speedy'. Adds maybe .5PTBB to my winrate.

I plan to eventually return to stars, my original stomping grounds after I've sufficiently whored bonuses. Fuck I hate all poker software after stars. Especially the POS UB software. I miss the good ol' stars simple theme.

GL on gettin' them bills paid

GL dude, hit me up on msn anytime u want to talk some poker

Originally Posted by d0zer

Yeah, RPGs you don't often lose XP . Damn it sucks playing for hours and losing XP.

I'm on UB at the moment. Been bonus whoring around to speed up my progress, though the UB bonus is hardly very 'speedy'. Adds maybe .5PTBB to my winrate.

I plan to eventually return to stars, my original stomping grounds after I've sufficiently whored bonuses. Fuck I hate all poker software after stars. Especially the POS UB software. I miss the good ol' stars simple theme.

GL on gettin' them bills paid

Would you say playing on UB & putting up with software that you dislike is worth the .5ptbb extra? I've never played on UB; I've only played Stars & Cake (which I disliked a lot & only played on briefly before returning to Stars). Imo I just can't get used to other sites' software. Anyways, gl on your operation Dozer.

Originally Posted by d0zer

Honestly, this little project has just been like playing a role playing game. Building enough experience points until I can 'level up' to where the monsters are tougher, but give you more XP. That's honestly my perspective on it.

This reminded me of an xkcd comic:



Best of luck to you.

good luck!
does that mean no more bluecheer?

Originally Posted by XTR1000

GL dude, hit me up on msn anytime u want to talk some poker

Thanks man, I just may have to tap into yer midstakes expertise

Originally Posted by grnydrowave2

This reminded me of an xkcd comic:

Best of luck to you.

I f'n love xkcd

Great comic.

Originally Posted by JinxT4

Would you say playing on UB & putting up with software that you dislike is worth the .5ptbb extra? I've never played on UB; I've only played Stars & Cake (which I disliked a lot & only played on briefly before returning to Stars). Imo I just can't get used to other sites' software. Anyways, gl on your operation Dozer.

It actually works out to 1 ptbb -- my first estimation was a little pessimistic. And yeah it's worth it to me. I'm pretty good at getting used to new software (betpot script helps), takes me a few hundred hands and I'm usually into my old groove again.

I write software for a living so when I bitch about the software it's just my inner elitist-geek talking. As long as the software isn't so inconvenient for me that I'm unable to multi-table effectively and am folding hands wrestling with an awkwark UI...I'm good.

Originally Posted by daven

good luck!
does that mean no more bluecheer?

Pretty much...he's been retired. I played the RTR $20k freeroll the other day with him & used a few $26 tokens I'd won from those 1800FTP SnGs. Finally had a FT appearance in one of those f'n $26 10 table MTTs. Pissed away a few hundred bucks on those before finally swearing off MTTs

I don't imagine I'll go back to FT -- it's not any fishier than stars IMO, and stars just has a bigger player base + better software. When my bonus whoring's done I'm back to stars. Come with! Or join me over at UB. Msg me if you do so we can whore the refer a friend bonus

Hey man, first post!

I feel the need to say something here. Probably it's because of the geography lol, who knows.

I really like your approach to this game. I'm not talking about skill level or hands played or cash won. It's all about patience ie. bankroll management, table selection, constant education. Too often, poker players want to toss money into a website and hit that home run, go big or go home attitude. The only successful players in this game are the ones who treat it like a long term game, which is what I see coming from you.

I hate saying good luck at anything, especially in relation to poker. So cheers and good play to you! I hope one day I can stack you

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Hey man, first post!

I feel the need to say something here. Probably it's because of the geography lol, who knows.

I really like your approach to this game. I'm not talking about skill level or hands played or cash won. It's all about patience ie. bankroll management, table selection, constant education. Too often, poker players want to toss money into a website and hit that home run, go big or go home attitude. The only successful players in this game are the ones who treat it like a long term game, which is what I see coming from you.

I hate saying good luck at anything, especially in relation to poker. So cheers and good play to you! I hope one day I can stack you

Thanks man

"good skill" makes a far better well-wishing phrase than "good luck" for poker, unless you're a results-oriented thinker

I (like most n00bs to the game) started with a 'go big or go home' attitude. It wasn't that long ago that I was arguing with spoonitnow about the importance of bankroll management

I'm the kinda guy who's gotta learn things the hard way, and thankfully it only took me 5 or 6 times having my microstakes BR getting decimated by bad beats at 100NL/200NL before I was finally sold on the idea of mitigating the damage caused by negative variance.



...It's only a matter of time before you're stacking me at Niagara, or some home game ...Surely I'll be helpless to your uber-thinking 200NL grinder skillz

Originally Posted by d0zer

When my bonus whoring's done I'm back to stars. Come with! Or join me over at UB. Msg me if you do so we can whore the refer a friend bonus

re stars, i played party the other day and it was fairly relaxed/soft - so dunno. Should probably get off Full Tilt though!

May hit you up on that UB bonus thing soon, so long as the bonus + rakeback + first deposit bonus combo can be done. I'll check out the specs, you say clearing at $1/100 playing 50nl FR? depending on expiry stuff I'll either hit it now or in May.

Originally Posted by daven

Originally Posted by d0zer

When my bonus whoring's done I'm back to stars. Come with! Or join me over at UB. Msg me if you do so we can whore the refer a friend bonus

re stars, i played party the other day and it was fairly relaxed/soft - so dunno. Should probably get off Full Tilt though!

Yep I think you should get off FT

I was like 1PTBB/100 over 30k hands there. Admittedly I was new to 50NL and there was a little adjustment period where I kinda veered too far outside my tight 'a game', so it probably isn't all that fair of a comparison but...

at UB I'm running 5ptbb over my first 10k hands. I'll probably make my way to party or ongame eventually. I get the impression ongame's even softer...

BR Update: 1840

Originally Posted by d0zer

Yep I think you should get off FT

I was like 1PTBB/100 over 30k hands there.
at UB I'm running 5ptbb over my first 10k hands. I

Nice work on the first $500 on UB!

I haven't figured out my real winrate at FT - this month its 4.9ptBB/100 (10k hands), last month 3.8 (20k hands) or something.
So if UB is even easier, then maybe moving to UB would be +++EV?
but FT is so comfortable...

Putting money into UB is very very very -EV.

Originally Posted by grnydrowave2

Putting money into UB is very very very -EV.

really? is this cos of the absolute scandal? or? please explain!

I figure:
rakeback+ first deposit bonus +softer player pool = $$$
where am i wrong? i

Yes, the AP scandal. What good is RB and bonuses if your whole BR is at risk?

Update: roll just hit 2200 after a good weekend, so I'll be taking my first stab at 100NL.

When I moved from 25NL to 50NL I erred on the side of "LAG", so this time I think I'll start tighter, and loosen up as I get more comfortable. 25NL-50NL was not that smooth for me, but I've plugged many holes since then so here's hopin' that 100NL will treat me better.

$1k in 12 days?

Probably the most I've ever made from this game in a 12 day period evah .

I won a few $500 tourney purses before, but this is bigger in perspective...



*trying not to 'jinx' it*

Update:

Heater kept going throughout last weekend and I was up to 3350. Then I got the inevitable smackdown & lost 4.5 BIs in like 2 days & have settled back down to 2900, which is still awesome cause I'm +$700 since moving from 50NL 11 days ago. about 14 hours of play = $50/hr. Better than my dayjob

I made $740 last night playing 1/2 live. Had like 3 sets pay off... It doesn't count for the BR though. That mostly goes to the "give wifey some play money so she likes poker" tax. I think it's working....today she caught me on youtube when I'm supposed to be working from home and she said "WTF are you doing on youtube when you could be doing something productive like playing poker?"

Originally Posted by d0zer

Last night playing 1/2 live. Had like 3 sets pay off... It doesn't count for the BR though. That mostly goes to the "give wifey some play money so she likes poker" tax. I think it's working....today she caught me on youtube when I'm supposed to be working from home and she said "WTF are you doing on youtube when you could be doing something productive like playing poker?"

HAHAHAHAHAH my god that's awesome. Love how J is all over that.

Lookin forward to drew obtaining his goal:

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I hate saying good luck at anything, especially in relation to poker. So cheers and good play to you! I hope one day I can stack you Very Happy

Originally Posted by d0zer

"WTF are you doing on youtube when you could be doing something productive like playing poker?"

awesome...
and nice move up -well done! this br nit is starting to second guess conservative br management, may see you there shortly - unless you race on to 200nl...

Originally Posted by daven

Originally Posted by d0zer

"WTF are you doing on youtube when you could be doing something productive like playing poker?"

awesome...
and nice move up -well done! this br nit is starting to second guess conservative br management, may see you there shortly - unless you race on to 200nl...

Heh, I'm a bad influence on you.

...next thing you know I'll find you drunk on the 200NL tables

You better get on 100NL before I hit 200NL! You're more than ready for it in BR and skill, as long as you don't let the big numbers turn you into a nit or tilt you.

100NL really doesn't play differently than 50NL (my experience after 5k hands anyway). Same ol' nits, laggs, stations & taggs to deal with in exactly the same way you do at 50NL...

Effing eh, I just cracked 4k

Man, it seems like just yesterday 1k was the big milestone. Took me forever to go from 50-1000, then she just went like gangbusters...

nh
race you to $5k!!!

Originally Posted by daven

nh
race you to $5k!!!

Yer ON!

How much of a headstart d'u have on me already?

I'm back down to $4200 after a bit of a swing...

I;m heading south for some cold water late next week, no computer coming with! so I'll probably barely play until about May 10th, but after that loads! I signed an 18hr/week contract to have more time to surf/climb/run/yoga/poker/life.

So you better get moving!!!

Originally Posted by daven

I'm back down to $4200 after a bit of a swing...

I;m heading south for some cold water late next week, no computer coming with! so I'll probably barely play until about May 10th, but after that loads! I signed an 18hr/week contract to have more time to surf/climb/run/yoga/poker/life.

So you better get moving!!!

Even tho I'm down $150 last night, I'll still beatcha there with the almost 2-week headstart you've given me. plus that's 16 BIs for you and only 12 for me

But if I can't by then maybe you'll overtake me if you play more than my hour a night (c'ept on the weekends).


Hittin' up the casino tomorrow tho with drew & sweetlemon -- pwn a little 200NL live. Live poker's great

Originally Posted by d0zer

I'll still beatcha there with the almost 2-week headstart you've given me.

Hittin' up the casino tomorrow tho with drew & sweetlemon -- pwn a little 200NL live.

May 20th and I think I'll be there - so you got almost a month!

Enjoy the casino drinks and drunks - for me the nearest casino is a flight away...

Gah, been hitting some bumpy patches...was down to 3400 after a brutal stretch. Now I'm sitting at 3600, so it's looking good for daven beating me to 5k

Even so, this month has been good. I'm up $1900 + $250 RB so my BR more than doubled this month which is pretty awesome in retrospect...

it's snowing and the girl I'm staying with is studying and no poker to play and I guess I should recover from last night...
I was around $4.5k last time I checked, get grind-racing yo. Oh, and I'm planning 50k hands and a new poker-site to play on this month...

Originally Posted by daven

it's snowing and the girl I'm staying with is studying and no poker to play and I guess I should recover from last night...
I was around $4.5k last time I checked, get grind-racing yo. Oh, and I'm planning 50k hands and a new poker-site to play on this month...

Snowing? D'u live in alaska by chance?

And I think I've gotta raise the white flag already. No progress. Stuck in the mid 3000s My laggy-ass has been high-variance. I've been running like 17/14 for some reason lately. I like it, but I've been running into a sick amount of negative variance...

Snowing? D'u live in alaska by chance?

And I think I've gotta raise the white flag already. [/quote]
Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunedin for the weekend...
and put that flag away.
I played some 18-16 for a while. It's fun. It's not maximum EV.

Originally Posted by daven

Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunedin for the weekend...
and put that flag away.
I played some 18-16 for a while. It's fun. It's not maximum EV.

Are you a NZ'er or just visiting? Cool country at any rate to get snowed on and be able to surf in the same day

I'm actually running at 18/14 over the last 2k hands... Raising PPs from any position, raising 3 limpers with Q9o on the button etc... It's been interesting...we'll see if I keep it up over 20k hands or more and what my winrate will be over those.

Originally Posted by d0zer

Are you a NZ'er or just visiting?

live here

Originally Posted by daven

Originally Posted by d0zer

Are you a NZ'er or just visiting?

live here

Very cool. It's on my 'top 3 places to visit' list.

BR: 4300 (+ waiting on $250 RB from last month).

I pissed away $400 or so pretending I know how to play HU, then went back to the FR and have been running 10ptbb/100 over the last 4k hands

i hear you on the heads-up thing, I'm trying to force myself to sit out when a table gets shorthanded, if nothing else cos it affects my game on the other tables. But mostly cos i suck HU...

10ptBB/100!!! nice one dude! $20/100 and you're only $450 away - keep it up and it's only one 2.5k hand session to the $5k bankroll!!

i also pissed away some br - pretending i knew how to lag it up (25-20) playing 6-max while clearing a party $100 bonus. I got action, but KK<AA (standard), AA<KK (not happy), AA<JJ all in on 789 flop and the 6 outer hit, and some less standard spew, all in all a 6 buy-in hit. I've ground 2 back playing fullring, and get another 2 shortly when i clear the bonus. where's the finish line again?!?

I bailed on UB. Not much FR traffic there anymore...only 5 or so FR tables at 100NL during the evening, and even less during the day.

Now I've got money on stars, OnGame, and Party, just trying out some different sites, really. I'll probably clear the party bonus then bail. Hate the software.

BR: 4100. Huge breakeven stretch. I think I might be spewing a little too much due to some overconfidence at 100NL Time to tighten back up...

How have the new rooms been treating you thus far? I know it's only been a day but I'm interested in reading an update.

everest is nice except not enough flexibility on resizing tables, so 8 is my limit there. Enough action so far, and bonus clears pretty quickly.
You can play any rooms? where you from?

I'm canadian.

Settled into ongame at nextpoker. Played 1k hands so far there. So far so good. The software is great in terms of UI, but it's a CPU hog, and with PT/PAHud + about 8 tables + mp3s going, things get pretty slow. I may just need to upgrade past the 2Ghz mark, but still...f'n poker software shouldn't be that CPU demanding

Even so, I like the action. Good juicy avg pot sizes. Only problem is that since it's a euro site, things get pretty dead around 10PM EST. It's best in the afternoon/early evening...lots of tables at the 100NL/200NL.

I can't even bring myself to clear the tiny little party bonus, but maybe I should...I'll probably play it past 10PM when ongame's dead. The software is meh, but apparently there's some skins that make it better.

I'm actually thinking of taking my money off stars and going back to FT...just for the RB. After this round of the gauntlet maybe.

[stars plug]

what do you have against stars? 35% rakeback @ SN + excellent tournaments, support, software.

[/stars plug]

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

35% rakeback @ SN

That's it for me. I'm not gunna play stars exclusively at the moment, so I'll never hit SN.

I may go back when I get sick of donking around at all these little sites, but it'll probably be when I have to cause there's not enough 400NL FR traffic or something...

...been waiting a LONG time for a session like this:





BR: 4800

nh
can't believe that neither of us is at $5k yet. Stupid May. I was certain I'd be there by now. Maybe it's time for a monster session...

Originally Posted by daven

nh
can't believe that neither of us is at $5k yet. Stupid May. I was certain I'd be there by now. Maybe it's time for a monster session...

Funny how May sucked brutally for both of us.

Hopefully I'll be at 200NL by June. A few modest winning sessions will do the trick.

You my friend are in dire need of a monster session.

May wrapup:

Ended at 4800 for 1.2k profit in the month. My second month of +$1000 profit in a row (since moving up to 100NL) so I'm happy with those results. I still donked off a bunch playing donkaments, headsup, 6-max, and beyond outside my BR, but thankfully not TOO much.

I'm feeling better about my FR game than I ever have, and am looking forward to 200NL.

Speaking of which, June has been +EV for me so far...I'm up to 5200 having JUST cracked it after last session + an ongame bonus.

Sooo......I will moving up to 200NL very soon. I'm pumped

Originally Posted by d0zer

Sooo......I will moving up to 200NL very soon. I'm pumped

Thats great dude, keep it up!

Good luck man, I hope you pwn 200nl. Honestly, if you play your 'A' game, you'll be just fine. The hardest transition is getting used to the bets being twice as big. Just remember that everything is relative.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

The hardest transition is getting used to the bets being twice as big. Just remember that everything is relative.

If that's true, I'm golden.

I'm already used to adapting to the doubling numbers (25NL wasn't THAT long ago), and have already played maybe 2k hands at 200NL + a little live. I'm far more confident moving up here than I was from 25NL to 50NL. After playing enough different limits, you start to realize that it really is the same game. The differences are subtle.

Originally Posted by d0zer

Speaking of which, June has been +EV for me so far...I'm up to 5200 having JUST cracked it after last session + an ongame bonus.

you win. Nice one! I'm moving up to 100nl at $5k. But I'm regularly playing the 200bb tables at 50nl, so I kinda have already.

Originally Posted by daven

you win. Nice one! I'm moving up to 100nl at $5k. But I'm regularly playing the 200bb tables at 50nl, so I kinda have already.

You've gotta be close now, eh?

I like the idea of playing 200BB deep, but not many sites offer it.

Oh, and
.25/.50 200BB doesn't play like .5/1 100BB since the BB dictates PFR size, which in turn sets up very different SPRs on the flop.

200BB deep scares me cause all I really know is 100BB or less.

dude you're rich too. i want a ball and free beer next live game.

Originally Posted by sweetlemon69

dude you're rich too. i want a ball and free beer next live game.

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[quote="d0zer"]

Originally Posted by daven

200BB deep scares me cause all I really know is 100BB or less.

funny - all i really know is 100BB or more. I'm pretty comfortable against 20bb shortstacks. On the 200bb deep tables there's only one player I'm concerned about - DrGameTheory, he's causing 2+2 angst and seems to understand deep loose-passive play pretty well. I haven't seen him stacked yet, and he tends to be sitting around 400-600bb deep most of the time. I think he's donating me money ever so slightly, but mostly cos he folds. We've only shown down on a river bet once I think, and he won - but it was after we both checked the turn.

A recent thought - I think learning a solid 60bb game would be +++EV up to 200nl (+?)

ps some horror calls and a nasty badbeat 270bb deep last night weren't compensated for by being on the right end of straight flush > quads (no bad beat jackpot in sight...). Bummer.

Was a net -$40 session and may have inspired a reversion to PT2 + HUD. Software and/or connection problems tilt me no end - and I'm sick of being a beta tester for free. I'd offer them my dev services, but working as a volunteer has its time and place - and this isn't it.

I'm missing being able to review hand histories. Apparently my PT3 data base is corrupted. meh.

That sucks.

I've been using PT3 for stars & party with no problems...

You run like shit man. When you finally hit a heater it's gunna gogogo!

I finally got my PT3 working for the first time yesterday and imported 60k hands. I do not like the built in HUD. I was playing a small SnG and tried it on and I just could not incorporate it into my game. I like the stats that you can view within PT3... but no thanks to HUDs.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I finally got my PT3 working for the first time yesterday and imported 60k hands. I do not like the built in HUD. I was playing a small SnG and tried it on and I just could not incorporate it into my game. I like the stats that you can view within PT3... but no thanks to HUDs.

The build in HUD is way better after you strip down the stupid labels on each box, and trim it down to a single line, instead of the default multi-line. The popup stats are better, and the fact that you can move around the stats with right-click drag is awesome IMO.

Other than that and 3-betting stats, it's basically the same as PAHud.

Why do you hate information?

It's not that I hate information, it's more so that I hate change.

yay for heaters. $1k in the last 24 hours

+5BI 100NL session last night as a nice welcome back present from FT, then a 2.5BI 200NL session at ongame.

BR: 6k

A few noteworthy hands from the session:

Villain here is 52/12

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($199.00)
UTG+1 JayTea1 ($141.45)
UTG+2 filousse ($200.00)
MP1 poweRanger ($211.60)
MP2 100_pasuunaa ($114.65)
MP3 ---ahomake-- ($199.00)
CO mattijateppo ($155.20)
BTN Janasch ($202.65)
SB stefanbet28 ($38.00)
BB sociopath01 ($200.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is UTG
Hero bets $7, 6 folds, Janasch calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17, 2 players)
Hero bets $13, Janasch bets $45, Hero bets $100, Janasch calls $68

Turn: ($243, 2 players)
Hero checks, Janasch goes all-in $82.65, Hero goes all-in $79

River: ($404.65, 2 players)

Final Pot: $404.65
Janasch shows:
Hero shows:

Janasch wins $3.65 ( lost -$199 )
Hero wins $398 ( won +$199 )


Weird hand vs an 18/9/2.5

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG fieldman222 ($138.85)
UTG+1 1Tassillo ($139.50)
UTG+2 Hero ($400.80)
MP1 Rancon ($203.85)
MP2 Tonzales ($130.00)
MP3 filousse ($197.00)
CO stefanbet28 ($40.00)
BTN DaPomp ($295.30)
SB Little60 ($201.00)
BB Push_all-in ($209.05)

Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is UTG+2
2 folds, Hero bets $7, 2 folds, filousse bets $20, 4 folds, Hero calls $13

Flop: ($43, 2 players)
Hero bets $25, filousse calls $25

Turn: ($93, 2 players)
Hero checks, filousse bets $60, Hero goes all-in $355.80, filousse goes all-in $92

River: ($600.80, 2 players)

Final Pot: $600.80
filousse shows:
Hero shows:

Hero wins $597.80 ( won +$197.00 )
filousse lost -$197.00


Villain spewtard

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG SchluckyNutz ($208.00)
UTG+1 redwingwin ($241.50)
MP1 WizardOfPoz ($104.60)
MP2 tylerf13 ($200.00)
MP3 wimpyy ($55.05)
CO peterr86 ($349.55)
BTN Hero ($201.00)
SB SCOOBASTEEV ($192.75)
BB UCSDeacon ($146.80)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 9 players) Hero is BTN
4 folds, wimpyy calls $1, peterr86 calls $1, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, wimpyy calls $5, peterr86 calls $5

Flop: ($19.50, 3 players)
wimpyy checks, peterr86 bets $3, Hero calls $3, wimpyy goes all-in $49.05, peterr86 folds, Hero calls $46.05

Turn: ($120.60, 2 players)

River: ($120.60, 2 players)

Final Pot: $120.60
wimpyy shows:
Hero shows:

Hero wins $117.60 ( won +$62.55 )
wimpyy lost -$55.05
peterr86 lost -$9.00

Originally Posted by d0zer

yay for heaters. $1k in the last 24 hours
a nice welcome back present from FT

BR: 6k

bluecheer out of retirement! nice one dude. I should really move up, my +5 buyin ($250)session just taking a break from really doesn't cut it huh...
keep it going - at this rate we may not end up at the same tables until 1k nl...

NH's buddy. Congrats on the recent success too. I can easily see you pwning 400nl before me because you're not chicken shit like me.

That TT hand was my favorite of the three... wow 77? wtf

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

NH's buddy. Congrats on the recent success too. I can easily see you pwning 400nl before me because you're not chicken shit like me.

That TT hand was my favorite of the three... wow 77? wtf

I loved that hand. It's rare enough you find a fullstack 52/12, so I couldn't pass up the opportunity to tangle with one.

I had him on AK/AQ, 66-QQ. AA/KK probably 3-bets preflop. I woulda never played it like this vs anyone resembling a TAG fer sure.

...and the heater continues. The last 5 days:

More fun:

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG bobbyac ($123.45)
UTG+1 whaaatever1 ($314.20)
MP Hero ($275.15)
CO jimbo1388 ($76.40)
BTN adult_diapers ($225.50)
SB mariojr ($250.00)
BB Au 1981 ($274.45)

Pre-flop: ($3, 7 players) Hero is MP
1 fold, whaaatever1 calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 3 folds, Au 1981 calls $8, whaaatever1 folds

Flop: ($23, 2 players)
Au 1981 bets $20, Hero raises to $60, Au 1981 raises to $160, Hero goes all-in $265.15, Au 1981 calls $104.45

Turn: ($552.60, 2 players)

River: ($552.60, 2 players)

Final Pot: $551.90
Hero shows:
Au 1981 shows:

Hero wins $549.60 ( won +$274.45 )
whaaatever1 lost -$2.00
Au 1981 lost -$274.45


$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG greatstar00 ($96.50)
UTG+1 TommyTd ($267.10)
MP1 dreamlab ($147.00)
MP2 The Jeltz ($206.00)
MP3 using_it ($407.50)
CO vvhunter1 ($100.55)
BTN YouMakeMe ($37.00)
SB Hero ($721.05)
BB EvilRobotMonkey ($38.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is SB
1 fold, TommyTd raises to $6, 5 folds, Hero calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($14, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, TommyTd calls $12

Turn: ($38, 2 players)
Hero bets $30, TommyTd raises to $120, Hero goes all-in $703.05, TommyTd calls $129.10

River: ($990.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $536.20
Hero shows:
TommyTd shows:

Hero wins $987.15 ( won +$266.10 )
TommyTd lost -$267.10


$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG TommyTd ($258.85)
UTG+1 The Jeltz ($203.00)
MP using_it ($411.50)
CO ArtieRufio31 ($200.00)
BTN Hero ($606.05)
SB 7DaRk KnIgHt7 ($353.35)
BB greatstar00 ($40.00)
[ArtieRufio31 posted $2]

Pre-flop: ($5, 7 players) Hero is BTN
3 folds, ArtieRufio31 checks, Hero raises to $10, 7DaRk KnIgHt7 calls $9, 1 fold, ArtieRufio31 folds

Flop: ($24, 2 players)
7DaRk KnIgHt7 checks, Hero bets $18, 7DaRk KnIgHt7 calls $18

Turn: ($60, 2 players)
7DaRk KnIgHt7 checks, Hero checks

River: ($60, 2 players)
7DaRk KnIgHt7 bets $25, Hero raises to $86, 7DaRk KnIgHt7 calls $61

Final Pot: $232
Hero shows:
7DaRk KnIgHt7 shows:

Hero wins $229 ( won +$115 )
ArtieRufio31 lost -$2.00
7DaRk KnIgHt7 lost -$114.00

jesus christ what idiots

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

jesus christ what idiots

DONKS ARE EVERYWHERE!

I remember being a micro player scared of the low-midstakes cause surely up there, everyone is a thinking, tagg preying on the one or two fish you might find at a table.

Very glad to find out how wrong I was

lmao @ finding out how wrong you were.

you are killing it man, you're winrate is through the roof!

i knew you were good but jesus fucking monkey apeshit

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

i knew you were good but jesus fucking monkey apeshit

Aaaaalllll luck man.

Seriously...how often do you find a villain willing to stick $274.45 in on the flop with 55 on a AT7 board?

he thought you were making a play at him, standard hand for hero, but you obviously played the table well.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

he thought you were making a play at him, standard hand for hero, but you obviously played the table well.

I often wonder how much my laggy preflop style is actually worth in image building. It's hard to measure. I do it under the assumption that the donks who are only playing a table or two will notice when I'm running over the table playing 30/30 over 3 rotations, c-betting every pot where I preflop raised...then eventually pick terrible spots to 'play back at me'.

Maybe this was one of those times, maybe he was coming off of a 2 day coke binge and said "FUCK IT", who knows? But I appreciate the donation to the "d0zer crack 10k fund" at any rate...

Teach me how to heater please .

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Teach me how to heater please .

One thing I've found that really helps is when you're trying to flop a set, clench your anus really tight like you're holding in a big log, and kinda release a low guttural uhhhhnnnnngh until the flop comes.

Also, make sure your KK>AA. Losing with kings to aces hurts the BR.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I finally got my PT3 working for the first time yesterday and imported 60k hands. I do not like the built in HUD. I was playing a small SnG and tried it on and I just could not incorporate it into my game. I like the stats that you can view within PT3... but no thanks to HUDs.

BankItDrew, 2 questions:

You don't use a HUD, right?
Do you use AHK scripts?

Originally Posted by dozer

Also, make sure your KK>AA. Losing with kings to aces hurts the BR.

Lol, & lol @ the "d0zer crack 10k fund."

Keep crushing dozer.

lawl at those hands you just posted. Was that from the night we were chatting on teh g00gz? My god I want 25NL so bad... I'm tempted to put in another 150 bucks lol.

Originally Posted by JinxT4

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I finally got my PT3 working for the first time yesterday and imported 60k hands. I do not like the built in HUD. I was playing a small SnG and tried it on and I just could not incorporate it into my game. I like the stats that you can view within PT3... but no thanks to HUDs.

BankItDrew, 2 questions:

You don't use a HUD, right?
Do you use AHK scripts?

correct
no