operation: same as everyone else

Originally Posted by rpm

Turn
TT (1), AT (6), KT (6), QTs (2), JTs (2), T9s (2), QQ (6)

total of 25 combos, which is 25/65=38% of his flop continuing range that he calls a turn bet with (folding 62%)

i bet 1.2 to win 1.7, meaning i needed him to fold 1.2/(1.2+1.7) = 42% of the time, which he wasn't. so it wasn't +EV in a vacuum.

however if he peels the flop with all pairs 22-QQ, or if i had AJ, AQ or any two spades, this would mean i have more fold equity/pot equity, respectively, on the turn card, and could possibly make up the EV needed to make barreling +EV.

this is double barrell spot # 1 btw...

first id include JJ in his range on the turn for calling a bet, so if you include that you have 31 hands out of 65 that he is calling, so he is folding 53% of the time...so it is ev+ as is....and in your example you say "i need him to fold 42% of the time" right after you say he is folding 62%...so NH SIR good 2 barrell

Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

this is double barrell spot # 1 btw...

first id include JJ in his range on the turn for calling a bet, so if you include that you have 31 hands out of 65 that he is calling, so he is folding 53% of the time...so it is ev+ as is....and in your example you say "i need him to fold 42% of the time" right after you say he is folding 62%...so NH SIR good 2 barrell

thanks for that. i was comparing my 42% required folds to his 38% CALLS, instead of his 62% folds. rushed work/scattered logic itt