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    so, why aren't you more often 3-betting co opens when you have the bu? everything plus position...

    fr i think you can be within 10BB/100 of breakeven from the blinds at micros
    sh i think you can do even better
    beyond the obvious (steal/fold 3b), c-bet is a useful stat, and so is W$WSD

    also, what does your analysis lead you to think regarding opening buttons to 2.5x with your entire range vs regs in the blinds?
    Last edited by daven; 11-09-2010 at 09:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    fr i think you can be within 10BB/100 of breakeven from the blinds at micros
    sh i think you can do even better
    I don't know about SH. Are you talking about BB or SB play? Obv. we have fold our blind more in FR because there's 3 extra seats but I'm finding people at 10NL/25NL FR to be much less aggro in the blinds meaning we can probably over compensate by stealing more, 3betting more and 4betting more. Also flatting 3bets because a lot of them are clueless postflop in 3bet pots if they were bluffing. Small sample though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    by this do you mean that an acceptable lose rate from the blinds is between -1 and -10BB/100?
    that's my theory, i'm sure there is a consensus 'acceptable' winrate out there somewhere, but i figure you can get close to breakeven.

    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    "so is W$WSD"

    i've never considered this stat in my life. i'm not sure i know how to.
    do you think it's better to bluff an 80% W$WSD or a 30%?
    should your defence range vary depending on which type is stealing?

    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    "also, what does your analysis lead you to think regarding opening buttons to 2.5x with your entire range vs regs in the blinds? "

    i currently size my my whole BU ATS range for 0.6 at 25nl. and 0.75 in the CO. i think it's a great idea. especially vs all the 10/9 guys etc who probably fold 94% their blinds 94% of the time.
    awesome, and the 0.6 at 25nl means the % of times you need to win for the steal to be +EV in a vacuum is less than when you 3x it, etc. It also fucks with their 3betting cos they don't really know how big to 3b oop when they stand to make so little out of the bet if you fold.

    Quote Originally Posted by kmind View Post
    I don't know about SH. Are you talking about BB or SB play?
    both

    preflop isn't the only place where the money is in blind play, well, not directly. Like, you should always be thinking of how to get extra value out of villains post-flop when you're playing right? dunno, what do you think of the c-raise blinds hands i just posted in my op? earning a few extra BB is cool?

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