Operation Supernova Elite??

Long time no update. Long time no pokers for that matter either.

I had a bit of a break over the past couple of weeks. I feel like the sheer brutality of this game has sunk in recently. How I am qualified to come to this conclusion is largely a mystery as I ran really well last month. But as I keep improving and poker looks like it's going to become a more and more important part of my life in the future I've been thinking a lot about it.

Obviously gambling is very different to most jobs; you never know what you're going to earn to an extent that is incomparible with performance related pay. You can do brilliantly for a long period of time and lose money. Gambling, as a career, is one thing. If you found a way to beat a casino game such as card counting in blackjack all you need to do is go to the casino and apply your system. When times are rough, you can just put in more hours and things WILL turn around if you have an edge.

In poker, it is different. Your mental state is such a crucial part of the game. Here's what I've realized - if you take a loss particularly badly in poker, you may lose your edge. If you run like shit for a long period of time, your play may deteriorate and then frankly you're fucked. Playing for a living is tough, particularly if you're a on a low budget.

What I've learnt from this is the importance of financial stability away from the tables. I hope never to be in a position when I cannot afford to put in a losing month. The pressure of that would be intolerable. Thinking about the future I have serious ambitions if I can keep my head sorted. But I mustn't force myself to play when I'm not feeling prepared or in the right mental state, and I must NEVER feel that I have to play above a certain limit. If the 200nl games suck or I'm just not feeling it, I should without hesitation drop down. Lose the ego, think about money

So what brought on this random waffling? Well, just look at the end of my August graph... edit: lol I've just realized how inconspicuous the downswing looks - the thick green line actually ends up below 8083 for a -1.8k tilty session.



Ok so it was my best month ever and I can't complain ldo (thick line is actual winnings, thin is equity adjusted so I ran hawt.) However, during the last 5k-ish hands I really forced myself to play. I felt that I had to continue, even though I was feeling tense and weary. Lesson learnt I hope.

So august -

8k profit
+$100 lol donkaments
+ $700 Bonus
+ Moved up to 200nl
= Great success

September goals

40k VPPs (aiming for 300k milestone bonus) BUT may be more or less depending on how I feel
10k profit, but that will include a 4k bonus and I'm already up $700 so HOPEFULLY that is reasonable.
No more than 16 tables - I have sorted out a new double cascade type layout and I'm really happy with it I'll take a screenshot sometime
Table select like the nit I truly am

Also if the pound could keep falling against the dollar I will be delighted

I hope this doesn't come across as too negative btw. Obv I'm really pleased with my August results but the tilty last day has really got to me. I feel really mentally refreshed now though, hopefully september can be even better!

we both took a long break!
Nice August
Now go and get $10k in September...

Sick graph. Inspires me to get better @ FR. Keep crushing.

fr IS for pussies, btw, but anyway

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

GOGOGOGO BADGERS!!!

I was bored today and I thought I would have a quick session and didn't want to load up 16 FR tables or whatever so I thought yeah 1/2HU why not!



EZ GAME imo. All of that is profit I bought in with exactly $200. All from the same opp as well. I ran SO good. It's been an ambition of mine for a while to reach 1k on one table! Give comments plz if these are bad I dunno how to play HU really... :s

Note: converter is being weird. When it says raises $5 it means raises $5 to $6, and when 3betting from the big blind I was raising to $22 and it says raises $20.

This is the second hand. I dunno about flatting preflop, it's somthing I considered but so many people are maniacs in heads up and I'm going to be a complete unknown to him (I don't know if he's a reg or what at this stage). Having raised the previous hand I felt it was better to raise and hope to get the monies in. His holding really suprised me though, thoughts on his play?

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($198)
Hero (SB) ($202)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
Button raises $5, Hero raises $20, Button calls $16

Flop: ($44) A, 9, K (2 players)
Hero bets $28, Button raises $75, Hero raises $152 (All-In), Button calls $101 (All-In)

Turn: ($396) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($396) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $396

Results in white below:
Button didn't show (As6s)
Hero had K, K (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $399.50

This one is probs more intersting. I felt it was really really likely on the river after his bet sizing that he had a monster (he'd played really straightforward and pretty tight.) Would overbet shoving be overkill here? Thoughts on river c/r plan anyway? Also, on the flop a call seems kinda bad but at the time I think I had just c/r the last flop and thought it was likely he'd be a pain, without any really solid reads on how he plays I felt I would get into a lot of shitty spots.

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($253.25)
Hero (SB) ($351.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, Q
Button raises $5, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 10, J, 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($28) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

River: ($28) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $24, Hero raises $68, Button raises $215.25 (All-In), Hero calls $171.25

Total pot: $506.50

Results in white below:
Button had 7, 9 (straight, Jack high).
Hero had 9, Q (straight, Queen high).
Outcome: Hero won $506

ty jokerstars

fwiw I was going to check back the turn so I hate his play...

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($228)
Hero (Button) ($835)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 6
Hero raises $5, SB calls $4

Flop: ($12) A, A, 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB raises $24, Hero calls $16

Turn: ($60) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, SB raises $198 (All-In), Hero calls $156

River: ($456) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $456

Results in white below:
Hero had A, 6 (full house, Aces over sixes).
SB had A, 10 (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $455.50

I also ran well yesterday, so I'm up 2.6k for the month now and I've only played for 7 hours

you ran so good!
Bet the river in hand 2
only 2.6k in 7hrs - never mind, you'll get there sometime...

ps. nice work.

oh i forgot to mention the crucial read for hand 2 - he took the b/c/b pot control line a few hands before with TPWK so I thought he's betting the majority of his calling range there and I thought he would have trouble folding a lot cos my line looks FOS.

Seriously what the hell is going on? I'm not even playing that well (as bankitdrew will testify) and the upswing just keeps on going.

I promised a while ago that I'd take a screeny of my setup. I've been playing only on my laptop screen over the summer, so things have been a little cramped and I haven't been in IRC for aaggesss as a result. Here's my new double-cascade setup, the thing I'm most happy about is the taskbar menu on the side which I read about in a thread on 2p2. It stops the PS windows collapsing so you can always click on them if they start flashing orange (meaning att urgently required).



Hands from today, our very own bot has broken his fold button. I don't think this is a particularly good three-barrel but whatever, I don't think it can be all that bad to show up with a bluff here with some frequency but against drew I doubt he's folding much on that river after calling the turn so I'm largely just burning money. I think I'm basically trying to rep too narrow a range (TT+,AJ) when there's a shitload of draws I can have so it's pretty spewy. Lots of rivers a bet would be fine though so I like the turn double barrel. Nice hand drew...

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($242.20)
Hero (MP) ($229)
CO ($61.80)
Button ($200)
SB ($38)
BB ($240.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, A
UTG calls $2, Hero raises $10, 4 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($23) J, 4, 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $14, UTG calls $14

Turn: ($51) 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $32, UTG calls $32

River: ($115) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $62, UTG calls $62

Total pot: $239

Results in white below:
UTG had 5, 5 (two pair, Jacks and fives).
Hero had K, A (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: UTG won $236

Now for my favourite hand of the session. I'd had a lot of fun with this reg, he had twice 4bet/folded before this hand. Both time he had raised to $48 and I thought was very important to 3bet small to allow him to 4bet to the same size and hopefully he'd stack off with a wide range thinking I'm a lunatic and I'm 5bet bluff shoving. The plan worked perfectly

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($197)
Hero (BB) ($266.35)
UTG ($46.40)
MP1 ($375.85)
MP2 ($116)
CO ($118.95)
Button ($217.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button raises $10, 1 fold, Hero raises $24, 2 folds, Button raises $38, Hero raises $240.35 (All-In), Button calls $169.95 (All-In)

Flop: ($441.90) 6, 7, 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($441.90) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($441.90) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $441.90

Results in white below:
Button didn't show
Hero had K, A (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $487.30

So September continues to just be ridiculously good while I'm still too lazy to put in decent sessions. I'm enjoying the heater while it lasts, roll is now at 19.2k, still awaiting the 4k bonus as well! 400nl soon, hmmmmmm??

Originally Posted by badgers

So September continues to just be ridiculously good while I'm still too lazy to put in decent sessions. I'm enjoying the heater while it lasts, roll is now at 19.2k, still awaiting the 4k bonus as well! 400nl soon, hmmmmmm??

stay at 200nl and keep enjoying $10k months a while longer imo...
seriously, very nice work!

Originally Posted by badgers

Here's my new double-cascade setup, the thing I'm most happy about is the taskbar menu on the side which I read about in a thread on 2p2. It stops the PS windows collapsing so you can always click on them if they start flashing orange (meaning att urgently required).

woah... i think you just changed my life. great tip...

Glad I could help kingnat

I've had a little break from poker since I have been without internet for a week or so and partying with the new freshers at college has been fairly intense lol. I've managed to get in 3k hands over the last 2 days and this month just continues to be some sort of crazy joke. I am in no position to complain for a looonnng time. 10ptBB/100 over 13k hands up 5.2k for the month and I've cracked the 20k bankroll mark

ridiculous.

Hopefully I'll clear the 4k bonus by the end of the month, it only needs I think about 16k hands so it shouldn't be a problem, when I run bad I will probably have more motivation to play, I'm not sure what I think of that mentality though...

Also I need to practice percussion more frequently or I will fail college this year, which wouldn't really be good. I might actually have to organize my time well this year which is a quite worrying thought because at the moment every day is another hangover. I'm sure it'll change soon as college settles down and hopefully I'll get into a nice routine which accomodates my college work, personal perc practice, active social life and of course poker. We shall see, I'll start by going for a 5k run tomorrow morning

Craaaazy day yesterday. At one point the day was a complete disaster, in the end it was acceptable I guess. I was playing really really lag compared to my normal stats, here are my stats from yesterday



Pretty mental.

Anyway I was pretty cross with myself after overbet shove-bluffing 2x pot on a T849J board because I thought opp would have 3bet QQ and then on review I realised that I was a retard and QQ was by far his most likely hand. I nearly quit at that point, but instead I decided to set a stop-loss. Unfortunatley, as you will se in the graph, I plummetted through the stop loss of 1k without a second thought...



Anyway, there was this absolute mega-fish and he ran sooo good against me it was totally sick. I managed to drop over 1k to him, a couple of hands were pretty marginal - I got J6s all in on a JT9 flop thinking he's satcking off with a T, J, Q or an 8 and maybe even more shit but he ended up having a set of tens which was a suprise. I later got the read that he was actually a lot more sensible post-flop than his 95/37 stats would suggest but at the time without that read I think it is a bad but not horrendous stack off.

Also, AQ>99, JTs overflushed by Axs, JJ<TT in a 4bet pot etc. etc. etc. all against the same villain it was insane. The two times I had AA on that table he folded, which also displeased me.

So, I got into a couple of huge pots including my biggest ever and almost got back to even on the table, if not for the night...

Preflop is meh, I was playing too many hands last night as you can see. Trying to adjust to the maniac to your left by opening more pots isn't really the brightest idea...

SB is bankitdrew

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($723.70)
CO ($41)
Button ($200)
SB ($198)
BB ($451.75)
UTG ($659.65)
Hero (MP1) ($293.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7, 8
1 fold, Hero raises $8, MP2 calls $8, 2 folds, SB calls $7, 1 fold

Flop: ($26) 6, 2, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, MP2 raises $36, SB calls $36, Hero calls $18

Turn: ($134) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $46, SB calls $46, Hero raises $158, MP2 calls $112, SB calls $108 (All-In)

River: ($604) 10 (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $91.40 (All-In), MP2 calls $91.40

Total pot: $786.80

Edit: forgot results - Drew hand NFD, loon had 96o.

So that was nice.

A few hands later I got it in with drew on the flop, I had K9s, drew had 47 and the flop was 568 i think giving me the FD+gutshot and drew the straight. I ended up lucking that one and that brought me closer to even for the table.

Then as the idiot's stack dwindled (he had a >300BB stack many many times he would just keep lucking and hitting a 3-outer), I stacked him with this hand

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($102.45)
MP3 ($339.80)
CO ($510.40)
Button ($195)
SB ($205)
BB ($445.75)
UTG ($202.95)
UTG+1 ($564.15)
Hero (MP1) ($1141.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J
2 folds, Hero raises $8, MP2 calls $8, 2 folds, Button calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($27) Q, 3, 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $12, 1 fold, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($51) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $12, Hero raises $140, MP2 calls $70.45 (All-In)

River: ($215.90) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $215.90

Results - 53o. Awesome.

Pretty boring hand actually sorry. Maybe I should have bet the turn I'm not sure.

Useless without pics



That's still ~$10 down on that table that's how crazy it was. Look at how deep everyone is, I was not the only player to suffer against this luckbox.

So after all that madness, if I had run at EV I would be nearly breakeven. However, what I have learnt about playing loose is that it is really hard to keep track of wtf is going on because you are just playing so many hands. I think I liked it better around the 16/13 mark, with maybe just a tad less 3betting!

I may have to change my goals for the year now, I was hoping to get the 300k bonus, but I've only earnt 9k VPPs this month and I think just going for the 200k VPP mark is probs for the best. I am lazy

Originally Posted by badgers

Craaaazy day yesterday

Sick post man.

That was an insane insane table just because of that guy. He must have had a 100% VPIP. I did HORRIBLE on that table! Missed the flush with A5c, you hit your 11 outer, whale hit his 3 with A3 vs my AK all in on turn... That's about $700 right there. This is what I was referring to in my blog about the swings of last night - it was mainly due to that table (at least the downward swing portion lol).

september was nice. This is basically a crosspost from the graph thread...



+4k bonus

Verrry happy with my month, I played less than half the hands I was aiming to play and yet I made more money!

October has also started well, up $900 in 2k hands today. IDK how much is luck or how well I'm playing but I'm running at 4ptBB/100 over my first 90k hands at 200nl. Seeing as that's around twice my 100nl winrate I'm pretty happy!

I don't know when I'm going to move up to 2/4. Although I made money in my first 400nl session, I was playing at around 20/16 and I was being pretty spewy and I think I was lucky to come away ahead. I think I should maybe keep 1/2 as my main game and only play 2/4 when the games look good or at weekends. I may also try mixing limits, but so far everytime I've ever tried to mix limits the higher stakes tables have taken all of my focus. Maybe it just needs practice, who knows...

October goals

6k
play more 400nl
get better
40k+ hands.

Originally Posted by badgers

september was nice. This is basically a crosspost from the graph thread...



+4k bonus :)

Verrry happy with my month, I played less than half the hands I was aiming to play and yet I made more money! :D

October has also started well, up $900 in 2k hands today. IDK how much is luck or how well I'm playing but I'm running at 4ptBB/100 over my first 90k hands at 200nl. Seeing as that's around twice my 100nl winrate I'm pretty happy!

I don't know when I'm going to move up to 2/4. Although I made money in my first 400nl session, I was playing at around 20/16 and I was being pretty spewy and I think I was lucky to come away ahead. I think I should maybe keep 1/2 as my main game and only play 2/4 when the games look good or at weekends. I may also try mixing limits, but so far everytime I've ever tried to mix limits the higher stakes tables have taken all of my focus. Maybe it just needs practice, who knows...

October goals

6k
play more 400nl
get better
40k+ hands.

I dont say this much,

effing glorious, sir

play it again
nh

ps your results have inspired me to move up again...

WOW. I need to read FTR a bit more often. I had not realised you had moved up Badgers although its not a surprise. Good job and sick month. How long before your crushing 5/10?

nice job dude! very sick indeed.

What can I add?
Awesome dude! Keep it up!!

Well done sir.....

I am jealous....

Thanks very much everyone!

shif I think it will be a loooonngg time if ever. I'm a bankroll nit for a start... We need to go to dtd again at some point I think!

Good to see you moving back up to 100nl daven. I'm sure you'll crush it

I haven't played in the last couple of days, I went out and treated myself to an iMac basically because I've always wanted one and I'm in a position now that I can kinda afford it. I'm hoping to get everything all my poker applications working in parallels (a piece of software to use windows and osx simultaneously) so that I can play lots of tables and be on irc and have music playing. It will also be good for college so I can just about justify buying it, at a push....

When I did play on the 2nd though I managed to drop $600 in ~500 hands, most notably by 4bet/calling KJs BVB 90BBs deep against a decent 21/17 player when history should definitely have said omg snap fold. Oh well...

Seriously though, poker on a mac could potentially be the most awesome thing ever if I get it going. There's a piece of software called expose which spreads out all of the open windows and also works with parallels, basically if it works I could go from my cascade setup to tiled in no time at all, hover over a table that needs attention then flick back, all in less than a second. Dunno how HEM hud will react to this though, this is very much an experiment if it goes wrong I can just boot the entire mac in windows and just play normally but I think it's a worthwhile purchase.

I hope it works :S

I am cross.

6k downswongs suck imo, hyachachachachacha.

I did win my biggest pot ever though, by quite some distance... (unfortunately dropped a similar pot with a fairly retarded bluff deep at 2/4 some time just before this...)

No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG+1) ($1020.70)
MP1 ($910.50)
MP2 ($382)
MP3 ($329.60)
CO ($442.70)
Button ($345)
SB ($523.30)
BB ($976.20)
UTG ($444.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A
1 fold, Hero raises $16, 6 folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($34) K, A, Q (2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($74) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $48, Hero raises $188, BB calls $140

River: ($450) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $752.20 (All-In), Hero calls $752.20

Total pot: $1954.40


pisco had KK here. woop woop.

However, I am still down 3.5k so far this month, making me VERY cross indeed. Most is at 400nl where I spewed a little and also failed to hit much other than the hand above obv. At 200nl I am down 7 buyins over 23k hands having been completely unable to hit a flop so far this month. More spewing and retarded bluffs follow, due me being annoyed because I'm not running like god.

I preferred it when I ran like god.... This game is actually tough, I need to be better at maintaining my A-game when I'm running less well.....

Lol yeah, its amazing how good we think we are when we run hot eh? Things turn tougher when the cards dont coorperate well. I see break even, or even a small loss as a successful session when I've just run cold. The ability to get through those stages without spewing off is grossly underated.

Originally Posted by badgers

I am cross.

I preferred it when I ran like god.

start running like god again
K Tx

Time to kill another goat?

That is all.

Originally Posted by badgers

This game is actually tough, I need to be better at maintaining my A-game when I'm running less well.....

THIS, MOTHERFUCKING THIS

Better.



Best day ever today, up 1.9k (7k hands). Funny thing is, if I'd run at EV I'd be up nearly 3k! Playing sooooo many hands atm, not good for college... I need to do some practice soon, oh well.

I've been doing some thinking.... SNE is like 30 hours a week if I 24 table 1/2. Unfortunately, I can't really 24 table 1/2 particularly well yet (see long b/e spell after downswong), and the more I think about it, the more I realize I can't make SNE next year. But we will see, if I am 16 tabling 2/4 by Jan then the situation may change and it might become a realistic ambition.

Another thing I noticed, from top to bottom that swong was nearly 7k!!!1 WTF???? that's a lot of money....... God this month has been exhausting. Not over yet though, I'm thinking 100k hands by the end??

6k VPPs away from 2k milestone, which will take 10k VPPs to clear. Add that to the 2k I'm getting from concierge and I may well hit the 6k target for the month, albeit as a FPP pro instead of with good poker. Nevermind...

Originally Posted by badgers

Better.
may well hit the 6k target for the month,

good/.

damn, where do you get your motivation, inspiring. Keep up the good work.

I did a minraise experiment today. Don't really know why, but it was fun playing like a total lagtard!



misplayed a couple of hands and ran $400 below EV so there is definitely some promise there. It's soooo much fun as well, I really enjoyed this session, despite the swongs. I think it's all about using the threat of position and the deep stacks, so I was experimenting with smaller cbets in position.

Also, I had a sort of breakthrough in my thinking recently (nothing major, just something I worked out.) In 3bet pots, you don't need to cbet so large because the stacks are shallow and implied odsd on draws etc. are less of a threat. cbettign 1/2 pot (or sometimes even less) in a 3bet pot with your entire range is at times completely correct, However, what I realized recently which is fairly neat is that a lot of the time, you are burning money by cbetting too large, in the same way that raising a river when only better calls and worse folds is burning money.

Assuming the stacks are shallow (100BBs 3bet pot will have maybe maybe 3.5x pot behind), you are going to have no problem getting villain all-in in three streets. By betting larger with your entire range, you are not getting any extra value, however you are making your bluffs more expensive.

Makes sense?

Oh and Atothec, my motivation comes from a mixture of being annoyed at college and me not wanting a losing month. I am stubborn.

Released the 2k milestone bonus which will take 10k VPPs to clear, should be a piece of cake to get before the end of the month at ~3k hands a day.

Today was a good day. I started out by minraising and getting totally owned/coolered by fatb in a hilarious hand. Guy is a luckbox fish nit and I hate him. idk if I should have minraised when he said minraise, or even if I should have raised the flop. Getting a FH in though is fine, would have been cool to soulread one way or another but whatever, hand is done now.

http://weaktight.com/473401

So I stopped minraising because I w as spewing too much and played my normal 17/14 ish game instead with man-sized raises. Then I played a bit of 2/4 because it's friday night and I'm feeling ok about my game... Ended up +1.5k on the night largely thanks to this hand...

No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($376)
UTG ($273.70)
UTG+1 ($398)
MP1 ($55.70)
MP2 ($403.70)
MP3 ($444)
CO ($400)
Button ($417)
Hero (SB) ($553.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3
2 folds, MP1 calls $4, 1 fold, MP3 calls $4, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, BB checks

Flop: ($20) 2, 6, 3 (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets $20, 1 fold, Hero raises $68, 2 folds, MP3 calls $48

Turn: ($156) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $116, MP3 raises $232, Hero raises $316, MP3 calls $140 (All-In)

River: ($900) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $900

Edit: crap, forgot to post results. He had T4o for the gutshot, nice hand sir.

However, I did get totally owned by kelisitaan repeatedly as I was playing three-handed with him on two tables - there were really bad fullstacked players on both tables keeping me there, but with keli's presence i don't even know if I was +EV, he was really owning me quite a lot.....

2.1k of concierge cleared today, +$1.5k at the tables means I'm up $5.6k before I've even cleared the 2k bonus. It would be totally sick if I could turn this into a 5 figure month after that $7k swong, but I guess I'm just dreaming now.....

original title now good

congrats

do this

Originally Posted by badgers

turn this into a 5 figure month

Month was a bit of a fail inth at I played a lot of hands etc. but I still made the 6k target which is nice

I have decided that november is the month for me to test SNE feasibility 24 tabling 1/2 for next year. Started badly, -1.5k in the first 17k hands, some bad play some all-in luck some coolers, whatever.... I don't care, this month is about VOLUME (and lots of profit ldo...)

TARGET - 82k VPPs for month ~180-190k hands

Progress - 7k/82k VPPs, -$1500

GOGOGO NOVEMBER ONE TIME

Originally Posted by badgers

I have decided that november is the month for me to test SNE feasibility 24 tabling 1/2 for next year.

You're crazy man!
If you can't play at least 7-8 hours per working day (during the whole year!), I don't think it's feasible.
GL anyway!

Please to deactivate the doomswitch thnx.



ONE TIIMMMEEEE NOVEMBER!!!!

I feel like I played really well today, I played 8k hands, some 2/4 (24 tabling - hard work) some 1/2. Blergh I can't complain, I won $1.5k today but 1k behind ev as welllll (all at 1/2, at least I don't run bad at 2/4!).

Sooooooooooooooo much grindage causes brain-freeze after just 9 days AND I'm behind the pace.... Bah, SNE is going to be hard but I'm pretty sure I'm going for it next year... Jimmy, it's only around 4.5 hours a day even if I only play 1/2 because I can get in around 1500 hands/hr 24 tabling.

Progress 20k/82k VPPs, -1k

I am the FPP pro master.

EDIT

lol I can't believe what a whiny little bitch I am.

POSITIVES

This weekend I've 24 tabled 2/4 a lot and didn't feel outclassed/out of place.
I played good today.
I'm up quite a bit this month considering 2k bonus and all the FPPsssss
INTERNET POKERS

Originally Posted by badgers

Jimmy, it's only around 4.5 hours a day even if I only play 1/2 because I can get in around 1500 hands/hr 24 tabling.

Yeah, if you play every single day of the year. That's a lot!

you are a sick man badgers

and I applaud ya for it

Originally Posted by kmind

you are a sick man badgers

and I applaud ya for it

And this of course!!

If this s**** happens, forget SNE or SuperNova next year
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...gs-t78331.html

I hate pokers.

Just passed the 100k mark for the month, total profit is -$800. 4k behind all-in EV etc. etc. boo hoo sad face no one cares yipeeeee.

Either way I'm playing crap. Volume even though it's not on the pace for sne is definitely getting to me and it's frankly tilting me. This is easily my worst run ever, looking at it on my graph since march is quite funny, I've been fortunate that my "all-in luck" has been quite stable in the past but for the last 100k hands the two lines have diverged significantly

So I come to a bt of a cross-roads in my poker "career". Do I look towards SNE, play a fuck-load of hands and probably make quite a lot of money, at the possible cost of development as a player. I feel like it will be restricting, tiring, annoying and I will hate poker by the end of the year.

Alternatively, I drop down to 16 tables, TABLE SELECT BETTER (my table selection has been virtually non-existent while 24 tabling and the results are telling), maybe move up stakes, possibly aim for the $6k milestone at 600k VPPs.... Watch videos, improve, analyse, probably play more lag, try out 6m, HU, PLO, badugi.......

I do have another plan though, I'm going to try 24 tabling with a stripped down HUD showing only vpip/pfr/attmp to steal and aggression factor. Old school! Hopefully getting rid of the 3bet stat will stop me spewing and the reduced clutter will allow me to concentrate on stack sizes, notes, history, table selecting and important stuff like that.... We'll see how that goes but this month has been fairly soul-crushing and I don't know if I'm ready to accept life as a 24 tabling 1ptBB robot just yet.

Also, I may well drop out of college at some point because it's shit. I guess it is linked in with the poker, I would just grind through college even if I did hate it if I didn't any other options. Poker provides me with a real alternative option, idk what is best for the long term though so for the moment at least I stay in college (it's a music college and it's not really possible to take a year out or anything as theoretically that would mean I am out of practice and it's a very performance based course.) Basically I haven't been getting on with my individual tutors and the lectures always were shit but are getting more so. I feel like I'd let a lot of people down if I quit, parents, teachers, friends and also myself. Bahhhh, who knows what I should do with my life?

Originally Posted by badgers

Alternatively, I drop down to 16 tables, TABLE SELECT BETTER (my table selection has been virtually non-existent while 24 tabling and the results are telling), maybe move up stakes, possibly aim for the $6k milestone at 600k VPPs.... Watch videos, improve, analyse, probably play more lag, try out 6m, HU, PLO, badugi.......

this imo...

It can be good to try something different. Sep/Oct I just spent watching the odd video and donking around at 25NL practising my hand reading. Back to normal this month and I feel my game has improved a ton.

Originally Posted by badgers

shif I think it will be a loooonngg time if ever. I'm a bankroll nit for a start... We need to go to dtd again at some point I think!

I am also a Bankroll nit especially considering I was playing 25NL with a 200NL/400NL roll!! A DTD visit is well in order and I hope to visit more often as soon as my job situation is sorted. I am going to try to online satellite in to the £300 monthly deepstack at some point.

VPPs yo!

Can anyone spot the leak????



I think my play from the blinds may be ever so slightly flawed. hrrmmmmm. Serious work to be done.

dude, i read your "I hate pokers" post and broke it into two main questions.

1) SNE - yes or no?
ask yourself what you want from poker next year, only with the answer to that can you answer this question. My answer (entirely subjective, and based on my life, premises, ideas, etc):
I checked the stars site for the SNE rewards - I don't think it's worth it for you.
You suggest looking towards SNE and probably making quite a lot
of money - the alternative is not shooting for SNE and probably still making quite a lot of money - especially if you think you will be able to improve more rapidly without SNE pressure. You don't want to be restriced, tired, annoyed, soul crushed, or hating poker.


2) College vs poker?
this is even more personal.
If you weren't studying music with a performance component I'd figure take a year out, hell, it's the same as taking a year off to travel or whatever and you can always continue after. In your situation, it's different.... All I can come up with is a long list of questions - answering them may help you arrive at an answer. Let me know if you want such a list!
i gave some ideas to dwarfman before the banhammer hit, some may apply? http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...nk-t71569.html

and a third, not so main!, question - have you asked Warpe for his opinion? seriously, that man made an advice thread while ago - he seems wise...

Originally Posted by badgers

Can anyone spot the leak????

man, i so nit - like 20-14-3 from the button recently.

include your $(EV adjusted) - maybe you just running bad by position or something.

Observation = we both suck from the big blind - that's the leak i'll be working on in December....

For now, I think you should study small blind play in particular, i noted this as a huge leak in my game and made some big adjustments after studying in October - particularly pre-flop in steal situations, limped pots, & postflop vs steals and in limped pots. Time for a "playing from the sb - thoughts?" post in the FR forum?

As context, this month I'm running -14ptBB/100 over nearly 7k hands played from the sb (that's $EV adjusted, in real $ terms I'm close to breakeven cos running good - but that's meaningless info). I initially thought this may have been because of some shorthanded play - but even filtering for hands with >7 players the rate is -3pt.

Great post thanks daven.

Poker - Sort out the blinds. I've done the EV calc and I'm only 2k below EV, so i still have some epic leaks there...I'm putting together a new basic strategy that will probably involve less calling and more 3betting. I'll do some work on seeing how to be unexploitable with my 3bets and cbets in 3bet pots (ie what ratio of nut hands : bluffs preflop, on the flop and then shove on turn is totally unexploitable.) It will involve c/fing some streets so I will need to work out a way to balance c/cing when nut hands preflop turn into bluffcatchers (or even when bluffs preflop turn into bluff catchers). A hell of a lot of work to be done there, and I think that's just one part of the problem.

Also, I will stop calling three-bets out of position unless I have a great reason. Less set-mining preflop oop when I'm not going to get paid enough, more c/ring a balanced range if I choose to call preflop (I will call more frequently preflop when I believe the player will fold a lot to a flop c/r ie. look at the player more when deciding to call preflop instead of "oh I have AQ against a LP raise my standard here is to call."

I'm losing nearly $1/hand from the small blind. Seeing as I play $1/$2, that's quite a serious leak lol.

College - The more I think about this the more I convince myself I should drop out. As far as long term future for life goes - I think I threw that away when I decided to do a music performance degree lol. I will piss everyone off though, as I said, particularly parents who I haven't really argued with properly for a very long time....

I guess what I'm thinking as well is that this is a 4 year course and I'm only 1/4 of the way through second year and this is how I feel. If I decide to stay at college I really need to commit to it if I'm to get through the whole 4 years, it's not as simple as just turning up when I need to which is all I'm doing at the moment. I don't really want to commit to it since I'm not enjoying it and I can't see any job at the end of college except teacher and a degree isn't necessary to teach percussion (although it'll look a lot better than one year then dropping out on the cv....)

I don't know if they would be the answers to your questions...? It'd be cool to chat next time you're on irc unless you've quit that forever Thanks for the dman link btw, I think it's a bit different because I know that I have the ability to be a pro seeing as I've basically been doing it for the past 6 months just with a bit of college work mixed in...

@shif - I don't really want to take 2 months off the grind! The thought is strangely horrifying lol. I know what you mean though, clearly I need to have a break and work some things out. A lot of maths and some 2nl donkage may well be in order! Regarding dtd, I have come to the conclusion that all tournaments are evil, so I think when we go next I'm just going to donk around at the cash tables instead

Badgers, enjoyed the thread - I read it 'cuz I saw a badgers1 at my 50nl table on FT, and wondered...but you're at nosebleed compared to me. Must be a badgers wannabe.

Saw the college note. I'm a professor, so I tend to vote for college. But taking some time off seems like a reasonable option in your case. The career options for fine arts profs are really tanking. My university, for example, is gutting the fine arts budget - and we're known as a liberal arts school. There are other things you can do with music. My sister was a piano performance/business major, got her MBA in France, and spent 10 years in arts marketing, working at the Oklahoma City Philaharmonic and the Kansas City Symphony as Marketing Director.

Good luck with the decision. Everyone has an opinion. As strongly as I feel about getting a college education, I can see you have thought about this a lot. There's lots of time in the future to go back, if you decide you want to. Make a +EV life decision and don't worry about what others think, imo.

Best wishes for poker, college and life.

Thanks for the advice Robb, I do have an account on FT under the name badgers_uk but I've never used it for anything other than play-money razz and railing donkaments!

I guess it's time for an update regarding college. I weighed up all the pros and cons and decided it was drop out and see where I got with the poker. However, a lot of people who I told my plans to advised me that it would be foolish to drop out without the option of returning to college, and I'm inclined to agree. What I didn't know before was that there is a way of taking time out in college, it's usually for someone who gets an amazing performance opportunity or something along those lines, not to play internet pokers lol. Anyway, basically having spoken to a few of the relevant people I found that I would have to lie to get this to happen. I'm not willing to do that because a) I would consider myself quite an honest person, and b) I am shit at lying lol.

So basically tl;dr I'm staying at college. Idk if it's right for me long term, but as a lot of people have said to me I used to enjoy playing percussion, this is what I've wanted to do since I was like 14 and it's just overall a great experience if I commit to it a bit more. What really swayed me was a friend who said everyone has a rough patch at college, but because I have such a good back up plan in poker I would always be inclined to drop out, whereas it's better to stick through it. Another thing is that I could just see myself getting bored and depressed playing poker especially if I was going for SNE.

ANYWAY, I'm feeling refreshed and like a huge weight has been taken off my shoulders since I decided this. I'm not going to set myself any monetary or hand goals anymore, I just play when I feel like it. This should mean my $/hr is way up anyway since if I only play when I'm in the right frame that should make a huge difference. My graph of November is in the graph thread, basically it's 100k+ hands of breakeven so I'm not that keen to repost it lol. December has been much better so far, although I'm still not running great I'm pretty pleased with the non-SD line, also my EV adjusted ptBB/100 is looking good . Winrate out of the blinds is also much improved. Long may it continue, and MERRY CHRISTMAS FTR

page 5 woot

Hardly played at all in december. I got about 20k hands in for something like +$1.5k. I've started a new DB for a new year so no graph or anything because I can't work out how to go back to the old DB.

I spent most of my december relaxing with family. I decided against the $3k bonus because it would have been too much work at a time of great festivity and joy etc. etc. I bought a couple of new things for the grind, a new mouse and weird gamepad thingy.



I'm in the process of working out a comfortable way of programming the keys so that it's as intuitive as possible (atm in conjunction with mouse but when I get it right I think I will be able to do everything with the left hand and maybe make notes on my laptop with my right).

Anyhoo, I played 15k hands today (most ever in one day) because I am a saddo and I'm thinking about SNE. Reallly swingy day, I went from +$800 in 500 hands to -$650 at 7k hands. Finished the day with +$897 but as I was 24tabling I guess that's an ok winrate. I think I can do better though...

edit: uploaded graph for different thread so I may as well put it here too



SNE pace - 7498/2740 VPPs

waayyy ahead of the pace woop! Probably go for another 15k hands tomorrow

Good luck on your SNE journey badgersss. I'm pullin for you & gametizzighttt.

you're a bot badgers. gl!!!

gogogogogo

i just went back and looked over your entire thread badgers. seriously this is an EPIC thread! congratulations on all of your success in 2008 and gl for 2009!

Thanks guys! Op may be over before it's begun though lol, I'm at -1.1k after 39k hands, playing like total crap. I'm working on a few leaks and I think I'll just see how January goes but this may not happen at all. I've bought a $4k bonus though so hopefully I wont lose all my moneys by the time that's cleared!

asfdxzcv

VPPs, 18,574/8,219

anyone got any thoughts on the best way to grind Supernova? Sit N Go/ Ring Tables or Mtts?

GL sir! I'm only like uhh 2k behind pace ATM. Hopefully will catch back up

go well in this op dude. Sounds like you made a good call on the poker/university front. Now enjoy playing and the $$$ that follow.

I question whether SNE is worth it though, you'll figure that out by end-January most likely.

have fun!

GOOT DAY TODAY!!!



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First time I've played the mill. Field is incredibly soft, more so than I imagined and I'd always heard stuff about it. I think I made a few mistakes, it was my first major online tourney and my first tournament for many many months tho so that's to be expected. I ran incredibly good in places and all in all I'm pretty pleased and not too disappointed on missing out on $205k...

Anyway, ship the 4k day imo!

VPPs - 23291/10,959

Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity

anyone got any thoughts on the best way to grind Supernova? Sit N Go/ Ring Tables or Mtts?

sorry i missed this

To be honest I think the best thing you can do is specialise. Find a game you enjoy or that suits your style and play it until your fingers bleed. If your only aim is supernova then full ring is probably the easiest as it's much easier to multi-table full ring than 6max. I think the higher stakes SnGs are quite good FPP earners, but as I said I don't think it matters too much what you choose to do, just do it and work hard!

Originally Posted by badgers

Anyway, ship the 4k day imo!

VPPs - 23291/10,959

nh
i'm running superbad, waiting for the boomswitch!

Tear it up yo!

I don't know if I conveyed my thoughts well or not or you could read it through all the chatter but I'll say it again just incase.

On that board against his backraise with most of our range its a wa/wb scenario. In which we are always WA because most of his range is mid pp's he is turning into a bluff or maybe a AQs AJs type hand. Against all of these hands we are way ahead of his range on that board.

It doesnt seem very +EV that we would raise our monster made hands on this board. Because we want him to continue his 'bluff/inhismind valuebetting' we would call atleast the flop and jam either the turn or river with our monster made hands. We would probably raise our draws on this flop.

If he is a thinking player he knows this. In which case we should float with our huge draws and raise our big pairs to make them look like draws and if he thinks he will make the mistake against our hand a good portion of the time. The standard multi tabler will see that there is a committing raise on a drawy board and he has a pair AI and take a flip. I'm guessing the level of thought isn't enough to discern that we are a level ahead of him always in this situation and we can always make the correct play with our hand against his mid pair range.

Thanks BB!

This is the hand http://www.pokerhand.org/?3675247

Villain is a 16/13 reg, aggro 3bettor who I've warred with quite a bit in the past. Crucially though, the opener is a donk who will stack off light preflop so I expect him to 3bet QQ+/AK a huge percent of the time...

I was having such a hard time putting him on a range and really my only thought was get it in and i didn't want him to call then me not have odds on the turn when he shoves but i guess if I shove turn that's not a problem.... It's such a messed up hand.... I think you are right though and maybe I played the hand sub-optimally but it's really an unusual spot.

Anyway, your comments about this hand made me think quite a bit differently about backraising and I today I got AK>AQ in with 120ish stacks when I would probs have played differently before our conversation yesterday so thanks!

I think I'm playing much better than at the beginning of the month and concentrating more. I'm gonna update this way less frequently now because this is ridic attention whoring lol. This post just made to say ty bb!

28kish VPPs/16,438

Originally Posted by badgers

2) Putting the really nitty players on ranges. I am assigning too wide ranges to the 12/6 crew. If a 12/6 player l/cs in early position he has a small-med pp so much... If this player then calls on an A67 board and I have AK I can forget about getting value from AQ. (although seriously wtf do these players do with Aq there, fold???) c/f turn, b/f river sorted.

3) Calling with the intention of c/fing the next street too much vs. nits.

4) Losing money to nits when I shouldn't.

2)Super nits most likely folding AQ pre...maybe open limp on the button. I've seen a reg nit open limp AQ on the CO and Button numerous times. Has anyone seen a nit showdown AQ without checking down?
3)Don't call unless your confident your going to stack them. They don't play much postflop. When they are in there they have something. You better have 1 up on it - they tend not to let go of their big hands.
4) Min raise their blinds. Lowest risk for gaurunteed return. If they 3-bet the have the nuts. If they try to adjust by calling a leading or whatever just start making a standard raise. (This only works if the sb is weak as shit too though). The classic way to take their cash though is stack them with a set on their overpair - which will help you with numero 3, since your just going to set mine against their raises.

oh yeah, you might wanna check top/top behind on the turn if they call your flop bet on a dry board with an ace and check it over to you on the next street.

I demand updates!

luls don't ask. You know the phrase, "running bad, playing worse". That is me. Having a really tough time atm, I feel like a lot of the regs are adjusting to me because I'm at the tables a lot and I'm a step behind. I know where my exploitable leaks are (and yeah I'm going to post them here lol regs look away please), I fold to steal too much, I fold to 3bets too much and I play bad in 3bet pots (biggest leak.) Because I'm afraid of screwing up in 3bet pots, I'm folding too often even in position and regs are picking up on this and just 3betting the shit out of me

Meh, we shall see how this goes.... atm I'm really not happy with how things are going and it's putting me on life tilt a bit (ie. I feel shit when I'm doing college stuff because I'm frustrated with my poker play which really shouldn't happen.... O well, I just finished a decent session which makes me feel better but I'm barely above break-even for over 100k hands which is obviously a monumentally epic fail!!!!

I've thought about giving up SNE and grinding less tables but I don't think I would have the motivation etc. Grinding SNE at 1/2 for 1ptBB will bring in just under 200k which is like enough for a house.... It's just mental to think about in those terms so I just need to maintain focus and hopefully I can not go crazy and improve at the tables. Gonna watch a couple of poker vids tonight and hopefully I can plug some leaks and stop playing like a retard in 3bet pots!

VPPs 50,888/43,836

earn a house from poker dude.

Just need to learn about 3-betting, steals and blind defence. also consider/re-consider 4-bet sizing

sounds so easy huh! I've been thinking about these things a lot recently - it seems to boil down to ranges, playing the player, and adjustments (the more I think about poker, the more this seems to be the answer to most poker questions). Maybe even re-examine your HUD set-up to help plug these leaks.

Also, have you considered varying your bet-sizing some - dependent on situations. I don't run any scripts while playing, so type or slider all my bets - not sure what does regarding reads?

I'm intrigued by your op - I'm not coming off contract until a few months from now, otherwise I'd be looking seriously at SNE. Maybe 2010....

wtf i demand an update

Originally Posted by badgers

luls don't ask. You know the phrase, "running bad, playing worse". That is me. Having a really tough time atm, I feel like a lot of the regs are adjusting to me because I'm at the tables a lot and I'm a step behind. I know where my exploitable leaks are (and yeah I'm going to post them here lol regs look away please), I fold to steal too much, I fold to 3bets too much and I play bad in 3bet pots (biggest leak.) Because I'm afraid of screwing up in 3bet pots, I'm folding too often even in position and regs are picking up on this and just 3betting the shit out of me

Meh, we shall see how this goes.... atm I'm really not happy with how things are going and it's putting me on life tilt a bit (ie. I feel shit when I'm doing college stuff because I'm frustrated with my poker play which really shouldn't happen.... O well, I just finished a decent session which makes me feel better but I'm barely above break-even for over 100k hands which is obviously a monumentally epic fail!!!!

I've thought about giving up SNE and grinding less tables but I don't think I would have the motivation etc. Grinding SNE at 1/2 for 1ptBB will bring in just under 200k which is like enough for a house.... It's just mental to think about in those terms so I just need to maintain focus and hopefully I can not go crazy and improve at the tables. Gonna watch a couple of poker vids tonight and hopefully I can plug some leaks and stop playing like a retard in 3bet pots!

VPPs 50,888/43,836

Watch or rewatch http://www.flopturnriver.com/poker-v...deo-NHC009.php

Its 6-max, but he does go into some detail on how to deal with getting 3-bet constantly. It really opened my eyes on how to 3bet light to get people to back the F off of you. You might need to spend some dough to earn some respect, but in the long run it'll pay off I'm sure.

meh



Pleased with my play towards end of month. 24 tabling is not for me, I thought I knew this before but I've kept on chasing because of the goal of SNE. Official verdict - forget SNE. I can have a much higher hourly rate playing 16 tables, table selecting ridic well.

I have plans on being the new studboy (except I hope to play better than him), mixing tables from 1/2 to 5/10 only playing in games where I know I am a favourite. I'm running like 8k below EV over the past 3 months which is unfortunate but even considering that my winrate is appalling because of bad table selction, playing too many tables and pushing myself to play when I am not in the right frame of mind....

Anyway, hopefully Feb will be better but:

4150 Bonus
2300 Tourneys
1950 cash

8.4k ish

Well I guess it could be worse.

But seriously February here I come. Screw SNE, I'm gonna focus on crushing the games not giving stars my money.

Originally Posted by badgers

8.4k ish

vnh

Originally Posted by badgers

But seriously February here I come. Screw SNE, I'm gonna focus on crushing the games not giving stars my money.

good call. 20k for Feb? do it

jesus christ mixing 1/2-3/6 is hard work. I made 1.6k then lost it all back with a set<set followed by a maybe slightly tilt induced retarded bluff shove in a 3bet pot at 3/6. There were some pretty big fish at the 3/6 tables though, and all this mixing means that I'm really only on great tables but hey I'm still a spewy moron so meh.

If I've completely abandoned the idea of SNE (which I have basically) I might start thinking about mixing something like 8 tables each of FT and Stars when I'm fully comfortable at mid-stakes, maybe even add in some Party or whatever if they're running. Just random rambling for now After my exam tomorrow I am just gonna ignore college for a while and just drink/play poker but not in that order ldo.

GLGLGL on the exam, and enjoy some time off!!