Operation: Switch from 6-max to FR

Agree with daven, your BR should be determined by your BI size, not the size of the bb. If he's playing 20-50bb games at 10nl, he could theoretically have a 5nl BR since he's only buying in for $5.

Originally Posted by daven

...Unless 50bb is higher variance than 100bb then you're rolled for 50nl -20-50bb with bankroll $750 (assuming a 30buyin rule)

Woohoo. I can completely skip over 25NL and play 50NL at 20-50bb tables once I get $750.

Naaa. I don't think so.

So i got my $50 bonus and I've been playing some 25NL on mostly 20-50bb tables. The 20-50bb tables are looser than the 10NL 20-50bb tables. I'm finding many many ables with vpip > 35. As usual I'm running bad starting out but I'll get past it. I tend to run bad at the first of the month anyway for some reason.

whine
AA set < Ace high straight when 88% vpip villian shoved GS on flop
QQ set < straight when 70% vpip villian shoved GS on flop. hmm, I see a pattern here
KK< AT when villian shoved on Txx board and hit river A
Several other hands when I had TPTK and board was too wet to continue or I couldn't hit >10 outs
/whine

I plan on staying at 25NL until BR is $350 or so.

It would be nice to run good when moving up for a change. Losing 24BIs at FT at the end of last year in about 20k hands just about did me in for good.

I started off bad losing 8 BIs but it was mostly hands like the ones I mentioned above so meh. I've recoved those BIs and am back to even.

Here are a few where I had trouble recently. These hands were not part of the 8 BIs lost


Hand 1

Villian is 21/12/4.2 over 140 hands 67% fold to cbet
Flop I figured FD , 99+ but not KK or AA as he's pretty aggro, AK.
Min raise on turn-protecting a set or str8? A3s? I was actually valuebetting this street as I figured he'd 3bet QQ+.
I've folding alot to raises when I have TP type of hands but

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($22.70)
BB ($26.55)
UTG ($40.05)
Hero (MP1) ($42.85)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($36)
Button ($27.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, Q
1 fold, Hero bets $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 4, 2, 5 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.20, CO calls $2.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($7.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, CO raises to $8, Hero ???

Hand 2

villian was 68/0/3 over 23 hands. no real reads except he rarely folds
Am I crushed after he donkbets then calls raise?
Any way I fold the minbet on river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($4.65)
Button ($4)
SB ($7.75)
BB ($4.40)
UTG ($20.80)
Hero (MP) ($16.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K
UTG calls $0.25, Hero bets $1, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.35) 8, 6, Q (2 players)
UTG bets $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG calls $1.25

Turn: ($5.35) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.35) A (2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero ???


Hand 3

I expected sb and bb to fold the open. UTG+1 was 34/5/1.5 so I was hoping for a set. I planned to try to get to sd if I missed set. On turn I figured no one was interested in taking the pot so I took a stab at it as I had the initiative and would look like a value bet as I was pf raiser. I would fold to a raise. Not sure what I would have done on river if I had gotten a call.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com


SB ($22.05)
BB ($28.30)
UTG ($23.75)
UTG+1 ($31.20)
MP1 ($26.75)
MP2 ($25)
Hero (MP3) ($24.50)
CO ($48.20)
Button ($26.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 2, 2
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75

Flop: ($4) J, 6, 5 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4) 4 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.50, 3 folds

Total pot: $4 | Rake: $0.20


Hand 4

villian is 25/12/1 over 187 3bet 4%
fairly passive player but will bet/raise strong hands
Fold to the turn bet as AK, KK , Flush and lots of other hands have me crushed. What does he call the 3 bet with and plays in this way? AdKd?
Was he value betting his monster on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($24.15)
MP2 ($41.25)
MP3 ($54.85)
CO ($31.80)
Button ($18.65)
SB ($28)
Hero (BB) ($32.30)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($25.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A
3 folds, MP2 bets $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $3, MP2 calls $2

Flop: ($6.10) J, K, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP2 calls $4

Turn: ($14.10) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $8.25, Hero calls $8.25

River: ($30.60) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $11.50, Hero ???


Hand 5

villian was 16/9/3.3 over 155
no reads- fairly staight forward player
Did I miss value here with the 3x raise?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($31.65)
UTG+1 ($22.35)
MP1 ($38.45)
MP2 ($25.35)
CO ($28.20)
Hero (Button) ($24.65)
SB ($18.95)
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero bets $1, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.25) J, K, 5 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold

Total pot: $11.25 | Rake: $0.55


Hand 6

villian is 27/4/1.2 over 68

no clue what range to put him on. calls 3bet.
I value bet this so what posible hand could he call the cbet with 56, TT+. I dont have a clue. Is this a set?

I nearly shit my pants when I saw what he showed up with. Def made some notes.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($27.65)
Button ($7.60)
SB ($26.35)
BB ($20)
UTG ($23.40)
UTG+1 ($13.85)
Hero (MP1) ($29.70)
MP2 ($30.70)
MP3 ($21.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, A
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, MP3 calls $2.25, 5 folds

Flop: ($5.60) 8, 3, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, MP3 calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.60) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP3 raises to $15.50 (All-In), Hero calls $7.50

River: ($43.60) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $43.60 | Rake: $2.15

Results below:
Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).
MP3 had 8, 6 (straight, nine high).
Outcome: MP3 won $41.45

Hand 1: I call turn, call blank river (no spade, diamond, 3, A, etc)

Hand 2: I call the river as played, you're pot odds are too good and you're hand wtf pwns his range. You're not crushed when he donk/calls. He's doing this with a lot of one spade hands that want to see a turn, or pair + spade.

Hand 3: Given you think that the blinds will fold a decent portion (were they nitty in the blinds?), and UTG+1 is fishy (any postflop reads? fold to cbet etc would be good to have) isolating here is probably fine. If the fish can't fold to cbets and there's no one that's extremely aggro I don't hate a limp, but a raise is probably better regardless. Betting the turn is meh, I don't hate it, I don't love it. Someone might have 5x and not feel like folding, or have a random 7 or 3 and not fold but its probably fine since you're protecting what equity you have against the chance that one of these guys binks a pair on the river, but it seems like it sucks betting into 3 ppl on a drawy board with a hand that has SOME showdown value.

Hand 4: KQ, KJs, AK, KTs (maybe) all call your 3bet preflop (obviously other hands, but its not limited to AK by any means). As well as other random stuff. I fold the turn almost always though. You're so crushed once he bets here imo.

Hand 5: The funny thing is, I used to c/minraise cbets vs TAGs a lot when I was playing 10nl and it was insanely profitable since they almost always folded without TP+, so once they call/raise I can give up. I'd take a note that this guy is probably someone who does this a decent bit and tend to just flat these and let him bet into me. Without that note, hand is definitely played fine since QT, hearts, Kx, and probably some Jx are all calling your 3bet.

Hand 6: lol nh. A 24/3 is going to be calling 3bets ridiculously wide, so you can 3bet the shit out of them for value with AQ, KQ easily, and obviously vs this guy you can go even wider. As played the hand is obviously fine.

Sessions since this have been break even or so.

Originally Posted by dranger7070

Hand 1: I call turn, call blank river (no spade, diamond, 3, A, etc)

What's the turn raise telling me? He has FD? When he didn't fold to cbet (67% fold to cbet) I figured he had a hand. I was trying to get to sd cheap. I was scratching my hand on the turn. Does he have a hand and he's protecting it or he's on a draw or ???

Originally Posted by dranger7070

Hand 2: I call the river as played, you're pot odds are too good and you're hand wtf pwns his range. You're not crushed when he donk/calls. He's doing this with a lot of one spade hands that want to see a turn, or pair + spade.

This is what I figured too. But even bad players get good hands sometimes. He could have gotten alot more value out of his As3s hand so I figured I got off good not losing a ton here.

Originally Posted by dranger7070

Hand 3: Given you think that the blinds will fold a decent portion (were they nitty in the blinds?), and UTG+1 is fishy (any postflop reads? fold to cbet etc would be good to have) isolating here is probably fine. If the fish can't fold to cbets and there's no one that's extremely aggro I don't hate a limp, but a raise is probably better regardless. Betting the turn is meh, I don't hate it, I don't love it. Someone might have 5x and not feel like folding, or have a random 7 or 3 and not fold but its probably fine since you're protecting what equity you have against the chance that one of these guys binks a pair on the river, but it seems like it sucks betting into 3 ppl on a drawy board with a hand that has SOME showdown value.

Super nits in the blinds

Originally Posted by dranger7070

Hand 4: KQ, KJs, AK, KTs (maybe) all call your 3bet preflop (obviously other hands, but its not limited to AK by any means). As well as other random stuff. I fold the turn almost always though. You're so crushed once he bets here imo.

I figured as much so I folded. This fold bugged me since this was the only time I got AA the entire session. The AA below is from a different session.

Originally Posted by dranger7070

Hand 5: The funny thing is, I used to c/minraise cbets vs TAGs a lot when I was playing 10nl and it was insanely profitable since they almost always folded without TP+, so once they call/raise I can give up. I'd take a note that this guy is probably someone who does this a decent bit and tend to just flat these and let him bet into me. Without that note, hand is definitely played fine since QT, hearts, Kx, and probably some Jx are all calling your 3bet.

So what's the best way to play this one?

Originally Posted by dranger7070

Hand 6: lol nh. A 24/3 is going to be calling 3bets ridiculously wide, so you can 3bet the shit out of them for value with AQ, KQ easily, and obviously vs this guy you can go even wider. As played the hand is obviously fine.

This one caused some tilt as it was one of the early hands in the session. I took a break though and came back ok.

Hand 1: Balls, missed the fold to cbet stat. He can have damn near any PP (it doesn't have to be 99+, the 8 might have scared his 66/77 and he's raising just because) A8, K8 (with a FD maybe?), sets, A5, 3x, etc. Fish do strange things lol.

Hand 5: Since he's still unknown, your raise is the best play. Only if you are 100% sure this guy does the c/minraise with air vs nits/TAGs would I call and let him bet the turn then try to get the stacks in. Just raise as your standard in this spot obv.

Finally recovered from initially losing 8 BIs. I got within recovering 6 or 7 of the BIs and my sessions went something like +$6, -$4, +$3, etc, so I was essentially even over several sessions.

Not only did I recover but I'm finallly in the green, being up a little over a BI. I don't think I have ever been up at 25NL.

Thanks guys.

One comment about my session last night.

Four Flush Boards=

Reminder to self: You cannot make someone fold

Will give an update Saturday when I can look at HEM/Cashier.

I'm curious to see what my set % was tonight. It had to be >30%. Seemed that way anyway.

I actually wish I had done this before. Now I don't know whether to tilt or not after a session.

I think I'm even or maybe up a bit.

After 6 day of no-look poker I was -$13.00 at 25NL FR but I never tilted during or after a session.

The day I thought I was >30% set percent, I was actually at about 20%. Definitely seem much higher.

So I've survived 25NL for 3 weeks. So far so good.

Been pretty much break-even for 25NL.

Last Night:

Hit Quads 4 times and I got some value out of them.
Hit set about 18%
AK hit about 45%
AA lost once
KK never lost

Played mostly 20-50bb games as the 100bb games were too nitty.

Should get bonus in about 400 fpp.

This time last year I was about ready to quit playing as I had withdrawn half of my roll due to frustration and had lost most of the other half to where my BR was at $61. I went on vacation and came back with a new attitude, built it back up to $800, and then almost went busto at 25NL at FT before moving back to PS.

Now the BR sit at a little over $800. Purchased the $50 bonus once I got 5000 fpp so I'll get the bonus in 350 fpps.

I've been playing FR for about 3.5 months now. I've also moved up to 25NL and have remained there for about a month without going busto.

So...

Switch to FR- Complete
Move back up to 25NL -Complete (which also completes 2 previous OPs)

I'm going on vacation Friday for a week to the gulf coast. Hopefully I can beat the oil. When I come back I'll start a new OP with my adventures at 25NL FR.

Thanks for all the help and a special thanks to Jason for going along with the April Fools thing.

Congrats! GL on the new Op.

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Nice work man, get your ass to 50nl! GOGOGOGO

Congratulations. Perseverance does pay off.