Quote Originally Posted by Robb
Quote Originally Posted by dev
Wouldn't you flat call vs a lagg with smaller SCs? I wish I had some recent data to look at to back this up, but I'm on a site that doesn't play well with tracking software. I would think calling in position vs. a lagg with 45s+ would be profitable. Granted, it depends on how often they cbet and fold to a raise (when we're semibluffing) and how often they cbet and then check/fold the turn. I think most laggs would have a lot of trouble playing OOP vs. a range that includes all the scs in addition to the pairs and some broadways.

The other thing about the flat-vs.-lagg range I really don't like is the KJo and AJo and maybe even the ATs. If they're not raising like 25%+, I think we're in a tough spot on a lot of flops with these hands. It seems your thinking hand value and I'm thinking playability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nehhH9rfnaw
Yeah, I got tired and didn't finish the post. I'll edit some, maybe tomorrow. Thanks for your thoughts. It just takes awhile to think through every range and every possible line (makes me tiny brain hurt).

I have been successful playing hands like ATs and KJ against the LAGG's lately. I know it results oriented, but it's like "cbet flop, check turn" is the new min-raise. Everybody's doing it. Even the LAGG's.
Wait, I'm doing that...

Now that's just creepy.