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    Default phuck losing, im a winner (the micro edition)

    this is my goal to take 50 bucks at turn it into at least 500. I have messed around on this site a lot but i recently read the post about absorbing the information you read an applying yourself. In that thread aokrongly suggested writing a journal, so here it is.

    i am going to try and do everything better than usual. the post i made of my first night is in the beginners section : http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...nl-t87775.html please go and tell me what i am doing wrong.


    i figured i would take a new principal of poker every week and try and compile hands that i feel demonstrate my application of these theories. Any ideas with what to start with? I was thinking bet sizing, being as it seems i am losing a lot of big pots and winning small ones, i feel like that has a great deal to do with bet sizing, when i get people to actually play with my the pot bloats up super fast and i get murked, otherwise, i bet too high and get no callers. is there flaw in this logic? any help would be much obliged.
  2. #2
    Guest
    $50 to $500 is a good short-term and easily reachable goal if you apply yourself. Don't work on too many things at once. Just remember, big hand - big pot, little hand - little pot. It will take you a bit to start learning which one is which so don't get frustrated. I screw it up from time to time too. I'm not sure what style you play, but tight ABC poker works best at the low levels. Bet when you have it, check/fold when you don't. Only make occasional moves when you have a read. Add knowledge and work into game as you go. Good luck!
  3. #3
    so day 2 was today, i decided to only play for an hour and a half because usually it is around the 125 hand mark 2 tables that i start to tilt and play poorly (i will have to work on that i know).

    On the session i was down 1.50 or something like that when i came to this last hand:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP3 ($2.46)
    CO ($2.29)
    Button ($5)
    Hero (SB) ($2.59)
    BB ($5.21)
    UTG ($4.57)
    UTG+1 ($8.98)
    MP1 ($6.44)
    MP2 ($1.01)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J
    5 folds, CO bets $0.08, Button calls $0.08, Hero raises to $0.26, 1 fold, CO calls $0.18, Button calls $0.18

    Flop: ($0.80) 6, 10, J (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.26, CO calls $0.26, 1 fold

    Turn: ($1.32) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.58, CO raises to $1.16, Hero raises to $2.07 (All-In), CO calls $0.61 (All-In)

    River: ($4.86) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $4.86 | Rake: $0.20


    i was stoooooked.......a walk off double-up....so i finished the day down 1.5 buyins as a whole and i have played something like 250 hands, maybe a little less.

    i appreciate the advice nutty, i try and bluff/cbet/double barrel (thats the one thats really killing me) way too often, and will really revert to bet when i have it/check fold when i dont. usually i just bet all the time, either way.
  4. #4
    Guest
    Don't just c-bet for the hell of it and definitely don't double-barrell the turn nothing but two overs for the hell of it. Have a reason for it and factor in position, number of opponents, board texture/hand ranges, etc.

    What are you doing on the flop in this hand? I don't like your bet sizes at all. You're in a 3-way pot, where someone can have a great second-best hand like 66, TT, KQ, 98, etc. Quit giving the odds to draw and bet. If no one has anything, you're not going to get any calls anyway, so just bet at least 1/2 pot here and same goes for the turn. You have top set and you want to get the money in by the river. Taking those lines is a sure way not to do that, regardless of the outcome of this hand. Just my .02
  5. #5
    played 280 hands last night, lost 1.30. so now i am at 45.65. I played solid for 2 hours straight,

    i lost a real cooler with aces like a half hour into it. ill go through it:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (MP3) ($2.16)
    CO ($1.60)
    Button ($2.33)
    SB ($0.98)
    BB ($2.88)
    UTG ($1.28)
    UTG+1 ($4.67)
    MP1 ($2.96)
    MP2 ($0.65)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, A
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.18, MP2 calls $0.18

    Flop: ($0.83) J, 6, 7 (4 players)
    UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.80, Button calls $0.80, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.45 (All-In)

    Turn: ($2.88) 9 (3 players, 1 all-in)
    Hero bets $1.16 (All-In), Button calls $1.16

    River: ($5.20) 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $5.20 | Rake: $0.25

    the button had 53off lol...my reason for the big initial bet is that i was at probably the loosest table i have ever been it and knew i would get at least 2 callers, and i got 3. i like my flop bet, maybe i should have over bet the pot because there are so many people that there could be implied odds enough for a flush draw. When the river came out and was not i diamond i am pretty sure pushing here is the only option. button called (like he had the whole way) and hit his 9% gutshot on the river. That would have been my biggest hand and possibly best played hand of my short operation but it was not to be. I did not let it get me down however and i built my stack up so that i was plus 1.45 on the session (right around 250 hands). Then i ran into this hand

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...nl-t87870.html

    youre not going to like that one mcmutt. i am pretty sure it was the opposite of abc poker. def should have called the flop bet. so after that i tilted some more for about 10 more minutes and ended up with a losing session. which really sucked because i was so proud of my first 250 hands.

    anyway.

    today is a new day and i am going to adhere to bet when i have it check/fold when i do not.

    i will watch every hand with more scrutiny and try and put opps on ranges even when i am not involved in the hand.

    ill post later/tomorrow. Goal for the day +4buy ins and +300 hands
  6. #6
    so yesterday my goal was +300 hands and +4bi....

    i ended up playing 700 hands and was up only 1.6 bi....i would have been up 3.75bi, but when i had aces some asshole 3bet/called my 4bet all in...with j7suited and flopped his flush...i know i know cheese with that whine...

    outside of that i think i played really really well....i noticed my bet sizing, i went to put in my auto-psb, and realized that the same could be accomplished by risking less chips and adjusted accordingly. I really do appreciate the comments from you nutty, idk how something so simple could have eluded me, but the bet when you have it, check/fold when you do not is really great.

    The thing i am most proud of is that when i lost the cooler with the aces and turned my previously +2.60 over 450 hands outting into a -.15 one, i maintained my cool, i worked it back and made back everything i lost and got back up to +3.20 total

    so right now i am at 48.83 and i have played ~ 1200 hands. I made a goal to play 2k hands in the week starting on monday so between tonight-sunday i definitely feel that is more than attainable. I am not going to worry about being + until about 5k hands at least so i can look at my stats on PT and see whats going on.

    todays goal is +4 buy ins, and at least 350 hands
  7. #7
    Hi, I've been following your op. Are you playing 2 tables? Keep going (I'll keep reading) and good luck.
  8. #8
    sorry for missing a day faithful followers lol. To answer your q r9453 i usually 2 table, occassionally 3 tabling to help keep me honest and only playing good hands (i dont get bored as easily waiting for the premies).

    On friday i was up 1.25 and finally cracked the 50 dollar mark (my original bankroll)

    last night i broke the cardinal sin and played drunk. Let's say my bankroll suffered tremendously and i am down to 45.50

    i swear from this day forth i will never play drunk again.

    I really need to do a better job of putting people on ranges while the hand is going on. Does anyone have any advice for this? maybe i;ll take out a sheet of paper and write "i will put people on ranges during the hand" 200 times.

    anyway i have played 1950 hands this week. and i am down 5 dollars (stupid alcohol). So i am not too worried.

    I should play a little later and i will keep posting hands in the BC.

    See you folks tomorrow

    EDIT: new goal for evening, play 500 hands of perfect poker.
  9. #9
    Missing a day is no problem philly. Its an op not a diary. I figured you did 2 tables based on the number of hands per hour you mentioned in one of your posts. I've tried 2 tables (for about 1k hands) but I can't beat it so I stick to 1.

    Having said that, I don't think it will be long before I move up to 2 tables. Also, I don't think I've seen anyone suggest that multi-tabling is an essential strategy for beating 2nl but it seems like its par for the course.

    Also, while I'm waiting for the premium hands I read FTR. Do you have PT3 or HEM?

    Um, playing drunk has cost me 5 buy ins. I've read that if you are gonna play drunk you should drop down at least 2 levels which is obviously not an option for us, so let's make a deal to give each other a slap if we do it again.

    I've been meaning to ask you about the JJ hand above where you 3bet 13xBB. I would have flatted there, why did you 3bet and how did you come up with that bet size?
    Sound off like ya gotta pair!
  10. #10
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics
    so yesterday my goal was +300 hands and +4bi....
    Don't do this. Having a goal for number of hands is fine (as long as you're not tilting) but 4 BI in 300 hands is completely unrealistic. I'm not saying it can't happen, because it most certainly can, but by setting the bar too high you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I used to have the same problem. Just focus on making good decisions and the money will come in time. You can play perfect poker for your 300 hands but have a losing session. It happens. Good luck on the rest of the Op.
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by r9453
    Missing a day is no problem philly. Its an op not a diary. I figured you did 2 tables based on the number of hands per hour you mentioned in one of your posts. I've tried 2 tables (for about 1k hands) but I can't beat it so I stick to 1.

    Having said that, I don't think it will be long before I move up to 2 tables. Also, I don't think I've seen anyone suggest that multi-tabling is an essential strategy for beating 2nl but it seems like its par for the course.

    Also, while I'm waiting for the premium hands I read FTR. Do you have PT3 or HEM?

    Um, playing drunk has cost me 5 buy ins. I've read that if you are gonna play drunk you should drop down at least 2 levels which is obviously not an option for us, so let's make a deal to give each other a slap if we do it again.

    I've been meaning to ask you about the JJ hand above where you 3bet 13xBB. I would have flatted there, why did you 3bet and how did you come up with that bet size?
    i have a crack version of pokettracker3, it does not work all that well but it still works some what, i was going to wait a few weeks and get the trial version of HEM, and then hopefully by then ill have another 50 dollars to use on another site and can get a registration for free.

    as for the JJ hand, the pot was already 19 cents. I figured one of them would fold to an overbet, giving me some much needed isolation with this hand. Also i am going to be oop for the rest of the hand so i feel raising that amount gives me a little extra protection.
  12. #12
    In your last forum post you quote stats of 24/5/40 and 20/5/47 for villains. I presume the first 2 are VPIP and PFR but what is the third?
    Sound off like ya gotta pair!
  13. #13
    i use realtimeHUD, so the best you can use in the screen without going to the pop up is aggression frequency, aka the %of times they bet after the flop...i get aggression factor in the pop up (idk why but its the only stat i can get in the pop up but not put on the screen) i dont really know how to read the aggerssion factor though, heres an explanation of AFQ (agression frequency) that i found online a while ago and have gone with:

    1. A stat used in HUDs that takes a formula involving aggressive actions and dividing it by other factors and is often considered in math circles the best determination of a player's true level of aggression.

    Explained

    Aggression Frequency is not a very common HUD stat, but one that gives a percentage number to explain just how aggressive an opponent potentially can be in a hand. The equation is:

    [Times Raised + Times Bet] / [Times Raised + Times Bet + Times Called + Times Folded]

    This number is a percentage, and the higher this number is the more your opponent is betting or raising. The more they bet and raise, the higher the number, and thus the greater the likelihood is that they are bluffing or semi-bluffing at the pot. 1. A stat used in HUDs that takes a formula involving aggressive actions and dividing it by other factors and is often considered in math circles the best determination of a player's true level of aggression.

    Explained

    Aggression Frequency is not a very common HUD stat, but one that gives a percentage number to explain just how aggressive an opponent potentially can be in a hand. The equation is:

    [Times Raised + Times Bet] / [Times Raised + Times Bet + Times Called + Times Folded]

    This number is a percentage, and the higher this number is the more your opponent is betting or raising. The more they bet and raise, the higher the number, and thus the greater the likelihood is that they are bluffing or semi-bluffing at the pot.
  14. #14
    OK got it. My HUD has AF as in Agression Factor which is similar but not as pertinent as Agression Frequency (I read here somewhere). Now I'm gonna go see if I can figure out how to change it.

    ETA: I thought that would take ages but it only took 20 mins.
    Sound off like ya gotta pair!
  15. #15
    ok so last night i made it up to 50.97 ^_^ woot. I played three sessions, a 150 hander to go up 1.50, a 100 hander where i went up 4.00 (awesome heater), and a 150 hander where i won .12...overall i am proud of the way i played today. But i still bluff too much. does anyone know of an article or post about shutting down and knowing you are beat? i read something about not being able to make someone fold a while back and i guess i should go give it a re read. I am about to take part in the Full Tilt 10k PPA Freeroll, 1st out of 9000 gets a g, so wish me luck...ill post hands from my sessions last night after this tourny.
  16. #16
    so the full tilt freeroll blew lol and i busted out early, but the rest of the day was not lost. I finally got my PT3 working and it is making reviewing my game a lot easier.

    Tonight was a roller coaster of a night, there was 5 times i called all ins and all of them i did with + EV (even though i lost twice with aces lol). Outside of 2 aces hands that i lost, my biggest losers were hands where i was trying to bluff and got caught. I really need to tighten this up, i am going to do what i can to keep my C-bet down to around 60, and my double barrell around 40. I feel like i am really starting to read the texture of the board better, and thanks to reading spoons blind stealing posts i am a lot better an getting that little extra into my stack. Here is my hand of the night:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP1 ($4.15)
    MP2 ($0.98)
    CO ($3.21)
    Button ($5.12)
    SB ($4.42)
    BB ($2.96)
    Hero (UTG) ($4.61)
    UTG+1 ($0.96)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, Q
    Hero bets $0.10, 3 folds, CO calls $0.10, Button raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.73) A, Q, 10 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.78, Button raises to $4.82 (All-In), Hero calls $3.53 (All-In)

    Turn: ($9.35) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($9.35) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $9.35 | Rake: $0.45

    Results below:
    Button had J, A (one pair, Aces).
    Hero had A, Q (two pair, Aces and Queens).
    Outcome: Hero won $8.90


    i put the dude on a aa, qq, tt, a10+, a10s+, kj, kjo. ajs and o only because thats what he actually had, otherwise i would not have included these

    and i have a 43.58 % equity...this guy was running 35/18 and i had seen him 3bet numerous times (he did not have to show any down though)

    i am getting 38.9% pot odds which means a call = bingo

    so i finished the night +6.40 and boosted my roll up to 57 and change. If not for moments of poor BR Management i would be excelling right now (i am not saying i have learned poker now and fuck ftr i can do this on my own, just nice to start out the grind on a wicked heater), but due to playing a 4.40 180 man, and a night of drunken gambling my roll does not reflect it.
  17. #17
    yesterday was a rough day, i posted 2 hands in the BC, the one with the qq (still kicking myself about that one) and the one with k8 vs FD (i think i played this one fine, d00d just hit his 29% chance (9 flush outs+3 10s+ 2 3's=14 X 2+1= 29)). I came out the day down 2.5 buyins...if i win those two hands its a very profitable day. It is easy to stop there when reviewing your session and be like, well i prob should have folded, and should have one this one and that turns my losing session into a positive one. But being the dilligent player i am, i looked at my next 6 biggest losing hands of the night. All 6 of them included some sort of bluff by me that was completely unnecessary and had a low % chance of working. These bluffs cost me a total of 4.50, 50 cents less than the total i was down on the night.

    This is turning out to be a much bigger leak than i thought. I am going to try and stop this at all costs this next session. I blame some of it on tilt as i was pretty angry after losing that qq hand and made a lot of bad plays.

    i have hit 3000 hands and i am only up 2 dollars total, i know you should not be results oriented but i feel like this is my fault and i should be much higher right now.
  18. #18
    i just lost 3 more buyins, taking my total from 57 to 45 in the last 48 hours...

    obviously this upsets me and 2 times today i called hands where i knew i was beat, just because "they could not have been calling my bets with a 6, or they could not have flushed on the flop". so thats 4 dollars, added to my 4.50 yesterday from stupid bets and you have 8.50....thats a lot of money i just wasted....

    i am going to reshape my game and return to the very basics, starting with my own starting range.

    While going through other peoples ops i saw Daven post this starting hand list for 2nl:

    A chart to beat micros, off the top of my head.
    In an unopened pot:
    UTG, limp or fold 44-88, open 99+/AQs+ - fold everything else
    UTG +1 add AQo, 77, 88
    MP1 Add AJs, KQs, 66
    MP2 = MP1
    HJ = Add AJ/ATs/KJs/QJs/66
    CO = steal Any ace, any pair, any two broadways
    BU = steal CO + all SCs, Kxs

    SB/BB, raised pot.
    Call pairs, 3-bet QQ+/AK. Fold the rest.
    Limped pot. Raise TT+/AQs+, complete sb with SCs/Axs/pocket pairs. Fold the rest. BB the same.

    Calling a raise.
    Pocket pairs with set odds.
    Suited connectors and 1-gappers after a raise and at least 1 call.

    You are 3-bet. 4-bet QQ+/AK. Versus a maniac call 99-JJ ip, shove out of position.

    3-bet QQ+/AQs+
    ------------------

    i saw Daven also posted an entire session review, i am going to go read that and try and do the same for my last session...i'll post that here later
  19. #19
    im still working on pt3 to be able to comepletely review a session the way i would like to. Last time i posted (2 days ago) i was down to 45 dollars, i enjoyed an amazing day yesterday and am now sitting at 61.83 (^_^) . I doubled up on kings like 3 times it was awesome not having an ace hit once all day. Going back through everything there was definitely somethings i could have done better.

    I am finding myself folding in places i may be ahead....turn flush comes, gets checked, i bet tpgk on river and get reraised the pot....or two 8's on a flop, turn gives me tpgk again and i bet, reraised pot....let it go

    i rewatched spendas video on 4tabling micros and it really helps with taking notes so i def suggest that to anyone out there struggling with this concept...

    does anyone have any good articles to read on fold equity?
  20. #20
    ok so i am going to look at my last 1000 hands ish like Daven did in his session review...ill probably end up posting around 20 hands, thats my minimum goal, i plan on doing this tonight instead of playing. its 12 15 now and if i finish by 2 i will maybe play an hour before bed...

    Okay the first thing that Daven examined was situations preflop where he either 3bet or was 3bet...mostly situations where he put money in preflop and did not see a flop, outside of raising and taking it down as the original pfr.

    Hand 1:
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($1.99)
    SB ($3.96)
    BB ($0.94)
    UTG ($2.17)
    UTG+1 ($1.04)
    MP1 ($4.27)
    Hero (MP2) ($1.88)
    MP3 ($2.04)
    CO ($6.96)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, J
    3 folds, Hero bets $0.10, 2 folds, Button raises to $0.18, 3 folds

    Total pot: $0.23 | Rake: $0

    Results:
    Button had K, K (one pair, Kings).
    Outcome: Button won $0.23


    Ok this one came after a little tilt and i had veered away from my original starting requirements, i think this is an easy fold preflop, fuck aj offsuited. Villain was 46/4 over ~40 hands, this was his only 3bet though, so even when getting almost 4:1 on my money (31:8) i think i have to respect the strength and lay it down.

    Hand 2:
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($5)
    BB ($2.82)
    UTG ($3.70)
    UTG+1 ($1.63)
    MP1 ($3.80)
    MP2 ($5)
    Hero (CO) ($1.97)
    Button ($0.91)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, Q
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP2 (poster) checks, Hero bets $0.12, Button raises to $0.22, 5 folds

    Total pot: $0.31 | Rake: $0

    I like to raise this preflop from the cut off, especially when it is sooted. I only had 7 hands with this guy and he had 3bet earlier without showing down. Over the 10 hands he was 80/60 and very aggressive post flop, so idk whether or not a call is +ev, Anyone have any insight? I think a call and evaluate on the flop is alright here. I am getting 4:1 on my money so in hindsight i should haev probably called. ESP. vs this villain, as i will get a lot of value for my hand. My main reason for raising here (other than me being stupid and not realizing i had a maniac behind me) is that the table had been pretty weak tight and before this guy had gotten here i had stolen a lot of pots in the button-High jack.

    Hand 3: *warning, long, posted in BC, so if you have already read this, then proceed to hand 4*
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+1 ($7.12)
    MP1 ($2.05)
    Hero (MP2) ($3.78)
    MP3 ($3.81)
    CO ($5)
    Button ($4.64)
    SB ($0.34)
    BB ($0.96)
    UTG ($1.68)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, A
    UTG bets $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, MP3 calls $0.14, 2 folds, SB calls $0.13, 1 fold, UTG raises to $1.68 (All-In), [color=#666666] hero folds

    This one was tricky for me. MP3 was 70/17 over only 12 hands, he had been pretty much dead money, probably makes this play with any ace. SB is a shorty so he is shoving hella wide. 40/11 over 50 hands, i could see him doing this with most low pp's and ax also, maybe even q10 suited or a hand like that. the one who worries me the most was UTG, the original raiser. 45/6 over 50 hands lol, he had been relatively passive and this type of aggression was abnormal from him. It was the only time he 3bet (well i guess 4bet) and i think with at least one of my aces or queens gone via the other 2 players, i think i will lose to a pp.

    looking at pot odds i am 1.38:1. I can probably assume that sb is going to call , idk about the mega fish behind me though....probably will too. in which case i am getting huge pot odds but the only prob is i wouldnt be all in (unless i shoved over the guy behind me), idk its tough....

    this one was a tough one to pokerstove because i dont really know what ranges i need to apply and what not. But assuming i push all in:

    After how everyone reacted to the original 3bet by me i put everyones range on:

    Me: aqo
    MP3: 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,A6o+,KJo+,QJo
    SB: 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,A2o+,KJo+
    UTG: 99+,AQs+,AKo

    ok so thanks to the formula i just got off yaawn on irc:

    if i push and the other 2 fold, i have 42% pot odds, and 37.4% equity. 1.68 into 3.96 for a total of 5.64

    If i push and only mp3 calls, i am putting in 3.64 to make 12.24, giving me 29.7% pot odds. I think that he will call my original bet with the range i posted above, and continue with all pocketpairs, a8+, kj+,qjs,j10s , so he will be folding 27 percent of the time. (i have 29% equity when he calls and sb folds)

    Bc the sb is so short i think its fair to put him at 100% call with any range that called my original bet. so he is 0% fold%. with him in the pot i sweeten my pot odds to 29.26 (i have 19 % equity when both call, and 26%equity when mp folds and sb calls)

    percent both fold= 0% (sb) * 27% (mp)= 0
    percent both call= 100% * 73%= 73%

    forumula goes like:

    (0 (percent both fold) *.374 (equity vs UTG) *5.64 (pot with just me and utg)) (0*(.626*5.64) + ((.27 (%fold for mp) * .29 (equity if only mp calls) *12.24) - (.27 * 71*12.24)) + ((0 (fold equity of sb) *.26 *5.84 (pot with just me utg and sb))- (0* .74*5.84)) + ((.73 (percent both call) * .19 * 12.44) -(.73*81*12.44) =

    0 for the first part bc sb is not folding + (-1.388) + 0 for the sb folding part+ (-5.6303)= - $7.01 so it is a clear fold....i hope i did this right. Cause gdamn did that take a long time.


    i hope i have all of that right, i will post it in the bc later...

    ok w/e on to the rest lol (too bad its already 3 )

    ok so now i will look at the hands i have seen a flop and lead out. I have only lost two of these twelve pots.

    starting with the biggest loser of the two:

    Hand 4

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (Button) ($2.07)
    SB ($3.21)
    BB ($6.82)
    UTG ($3.37)
    MP1 ($3.50)
    MP2 ($1.48)
    CO ($10.14)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, A
    3 folds, CO bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.20) 3, 10, A (3 players)
    SB bets $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.34, SB calls $0.24

    Turn: ($0.88) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.82, SB calls $0.82

    River: ($2.52) 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Total pot: $2.52 | Rake: $0.10

    original raiser is 17/10 over 100 hands, so maybe 3betting here is an option? villain is 53/9/47 over 60 hands... i should def be betting less on this turn, i put him on some kind of draw or something. idk i guess a3 and a10 are both in his donking range so i should probably have just flat called/ evaluated turn?

    Hand 5:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($2.15)
    UTG ($1.41)
    UTG+1 ($0.89)
    MP1 ($0.94)
    MP2 ($3.01)
    Hero (CO) ($1.94)
    Button ($1)
    SB ($1.99)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 10, 10
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.10, 1 fold, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.32) 2, 5, A (3 players)
    SB bets $0.06, UTG+1 calls $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.14, 1 fold

    Turn: ($0.78) J (2 players)
    SB bets $0.30, Hero folds

    Total pot: $0.78 | Rake: $0

    sb is 33/0/67 over 30 hands, utg is 33/19 over 20 so both are pretty unreliable samples.

    On this one i think i played it pretty well, the bets were too weak preflop for me to give them any credit and i am only goign to see more cards i do not like on the turn if i call behind. When playing with a pair with an overcard on the board when you were the original raiser, you want to rep that overcard but fold to resistance and i think i did this well without being as spewy as i have been recently.

    Hand 6

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (CO) ($1.80)
    Button ($2.24)
    SB ($4.70)
    BB ($3.98)
    UTG ($3.53)
    UTG+1 ($3.27)
    MP1 ($2.31)
    MP2 ($10.24)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
    3 folds, MP2 bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, 1 fold, SB calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.24) 6, 9, 8 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

    Turn: ($1.04) A (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, 1 fold

    Total pot: $1.04 | Rake: $0.05

    main villain is 36/18/42 over 100 hands. This goes in line with the hand i just posted before this. That is betting the scare cards. I should ahve 3bet to iso pre because jj plays crap multiway. But as played i think flop/turn are both money. I think he has pp here most of the time and is folding thinking i have an ace. (which sucks cause my jj is prob higher than their pocket pair) so i guess i am losing value by making him fold. However i think at 2 nl you will get 10's 77 55 a bunch.

    Hand 7

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($5.19)
    UTG ($2.98)
    UTG+1 ($2)
    MP1 ($1.33)
    MP2 ($1.82)
    MP3 ($3.14)
    CO ($3.80)
    Hero (Button) ($2.06)
    SB ($5.82)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 6
    UTG calls $0.02, 5 folds, Hero bets $0.10, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.23) J, 2, Q (2 players)
    UTG bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.26, UTG calls $0.20

    Turn: ($0.75) 6 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.38, UTG calls $0.38

    River: ($1.51) 10 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $1.32 (All-In), UTG calls $1.32

    Total pot: $4.15 | Rake: $0.20

    first hand with this guy...i like opening the button with a wide range of hands so i figure him to be calling pretty light. The board is pretty scarey and i probably should have given his donk bet more respect and just called. Turn was obviously amazing for me, i should have bet more on the turn so that he was pot committed by river. The only way i am losing this is set vs set or i guess a rivered straight if he didnt 3 bet ak.

    alright, i know my goal was to post 20 hands but that math in the first one completely deflated me....i will maybe post some more in the morning as it is 4:10 now :-/.....
  21. #21
    its been a few days sincei have posted, largely because i posted a large as thing but my comp shut down right as i was posting it and it didnt save so i have been pretty disgruntled. My br is at 64, it was up to 69 but i dropped 2.5 BI's last night.

    I have a new idea of Big hand big pot: lets say i have kings. Pre flop, if i am getting a lot of action and can get it in Pre, then by all means that is my goal. But if i get to a flop with only one person calling my 4x bb raise, and the board is all unders, i have to be weary of someone showing extreme aggression (sets a lot of the time), and try and manage pot size as best i can, rather than doing all i can to get it in by the turn....as i am probably getting called by 10 10-qq, but other than that i am only getting called by worse.
  22. #22
    So i ran into this monster today



    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($2.86)
    Hero (BB) ($2.78)
    UTG ($2.49)
    UTG+1 ($2.11)
    MP1 ($1.65)
    MP2 ($4.46)
    MP3 ($0.81)
    CO ($1.53)
    Button ($1.17)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
    UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.12) 9, 9, 7 (6 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.02, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, SB calls $0.02

    Turn: ($0.20) 8 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.06, MP2 calls $0.06, Button raises to $0.32, SB calls $0.32, Hero raises to $0.64, MP2 calls $0.58, Button raises to $1.13 (All-In), SB calls $0.81, Hero raises to $2.74 (All-In), MP2 calls $2.10, SB calls $1.61

    River: ($9.55) K (4 players, 2 all-in)
    SB bets $0.08 (All-In), MP2 calls $0.08

    Total pot: $9.71 | Rake: $0.45

    outside of this i caught a few other good hands and i have made it to 78 bones. If i make two more dollars at full ring i am going to switch it up and ride with some 6max for my next 10k hands...i have 700 hands to go til my first 10k checkup. I am pretty excited lol. So i figure my first 10k at full ring, followed by 10 k at 6max wll have me ready for some 5nl. I heard that you should have a bigger roll for 6m because theres more variance (makes sense) so i will have 40BI once i get to 80 bucks, an amount i feel like will definitely be suitable.
  23. #23
    so i lost 2.5 buyins and i am down to 73 dollars, still only about a day a way from being rolled for 6m 2nl.

    here is a hand i miss played at one key part:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($4.04)
    SB ($1.14)
    Hero (BB) ($2.08)
    UTG ($4.29)
    UTG+1 ($2.94)
    MP1 ($3.45)
    MP2 ($1.94)
    CO ($0.99)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 6
    UTG bets $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.08, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.49) 3, 10, 6 (5 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.20, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

    Turn: ($1.29) 5 (4 players)
    Hero bets $1.78 (All-In), UTG calls $1.78, MP1 calls $1.78, 1 fold

    River: ($6.63) 8 (3 players, 1 all-in)
    UTG bets $2.21 (All-In), MP1 calls $1.37 (All-In)

    Total pot: $9.37 | Rake: $0.45


    ok my mistake here is calling the flop bet, i am up against 3 loose fish that all like to bet and call with their draws. I am getting 1:5.6 on my money on the flop, but i am only 11% to improve on the turn. When i do improve and i know that these people all like to chase i overbet th epot as not to give any of them pot odds if another calls me. As it turns out they both had the flush draw and called and it hit on the river. Boo Hoo. I should have folded the flop and would have saved myself a lot of money.

    As played though, getting it in on the turn is a must, there will be a lot of people calling with worse, i.e. a10, over pairs, and flush/straight draws. And i was 50% in equity against that range. Thats not even including the fold equity i have, so push was defff ev+ after i misplayed the flop.
  24. #24
    ok so heres my story: first sorry for the delayed post... but after a night of drunken bankroll anarchy my roll withered away to 40 dollars, it was down as low as 38 at some point the next day. But i stuck on my grind, and won and got second in a 1.10 45 man turbos and my roll was on its way back.


    In the last week i have ran extremely hot, on FT i am running at 64 pt bb lol and i am up to 108 dollars i am taking my first shots at FR 5nl, but usually just mixing in one table with another 6m 2nl. I am also taking part in the take 2 promo so i will have another 50 bucks by the end added to my roll.

    i will start to post more hands and be more dillegent with my studying poker, its just that big loss to my br where i lost 50 % drunkenly playing donk n go's that i wasnt rolled for was just really discouraging, but i am back thanks to this wicked heater and i am going to approach 5nl way better than 2nl
  25. #25
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    I think you should work on not playing drunk first. Your A game is probably good enough to beat NL2 and NL5. So your goal is to play your A game as much as possible for now.

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