Self Discipline and Me

Originally Posted by kingnat

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I missed the part of the FTR terms that said if you don't follow BR management you can't ask for and receive playing advice, my mistake.

Why would anyone waste their time trying to give advice or assistance to help someone improve their at-the-table play to someone who is destined to fail because they ignore BRM? Your willingness to throw BRM advice out the door, means you are 1) ignorant (don't have the information necessary), 2) stubborn (unwilling to consider changing your plans), and 3) generally non-thinking (aren't able to see the logic in others advice). I don't mean for this to be a flame, but those are legitimate conclusions to draw from your actions and words. Best of luck... it's highly possible that you will hit some win streaks and feel like a million bucks, but those highs will never last, because if you ignore BRM, you are mathematically GUARANTEED to go bust. Have fun with that.

Absolutely Kingnat. It's like this. If a player came to FTR asking for advice and wanting help to beat poker, but kept posting hands where he played 72o or K5s UTG, and everyone kept telling him to fold those hands pre flop. If this player refused to listen, taking the stance that he didn't ask for preflop advice, just how to play post flop (because any two cards can win don't you know) then nobody would bother with any help. We all know the mathematical reasoning for folding 72o, and are not going to move on with advice until the player learns to fold that hand. BRM is the same thing. We all understand the math behind BRM and why you must have it to be a winning player. It is an absolute, if you want to play poker seriously and win long term, then it must be adhered to. It would be stupid of us to dispense post flop advice to a player not adhering to the basic math of preflop because it's the cart before the horse. To dispense any poker advice to anyone that will not adhere to BRM is a waste of our time and effort that could be put into any other player that has learned the very first step to poker success.

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10-05-2008 09:52 AM #1
jyms View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Bankroll Lag Join Date Sep 2005 Posts 10,877	Originally Posted by kingnat Originally Posted by LuckySlevin I missed the part of the FTR terms that said if you don't follow BR management you can't ask for and receive playing advice, my mistake. Why would anyone waste their time trying to give advice or assistance to help someone improve their at-the-table play to someone who is destined to fail because they ignore BRM? Your willingness to throw BRM advice out the door, means you are 1) ignorant (don't have the information necessary), 2) stubborn (unwilling to consider changing your plans), and 3) generally non-thinking (aren't able to see the logic in others advice). I don't mean for this to be a flame, but those are legitimate conclusions to draw from your actions and words. Best of luck... it's highly possible that you will hit some win streaks and feel like a million bucks, but those highs will never last, because if you ignore BRM, you are mathematically GUARANTEED to go bust. Have fun with that. Absolutely Kingnat. It's like this. If a player came to FTR asking for advice and wanting help to beat poker, but kept posting hands where he played 72o or K5s UTG, and everyone kept telling him to fold those hands pre flop. If this player refused to listen, taking the stance that he didn't ask for preflop advice, just how to play post flop (because any two cards can win don't you know) then nobody would bother with any help. We all know the mathematical reasoning for folding 72o, and are not going to move on with advice until the player learns to fold that hand. BRM is the same thing. We all understand the math behind BRM and why you must have it to be a winning player. It is an absolute, if you want to play poker seriously and win long term, then it must be adhered to. It would be stupid of us to dispense post flop advice to a player not adhering to the basic math of preflop because it's the cart before the horse. To dispense any poker advice to anyone that will not adhere to BRM is a waste of our time and effort that could be put into any other player that has learned the very first step to poker success.