Slevins lets do things properly

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

OK. I've just had a mini realisation. They say the most profound things are the simplest.

I was laying in bed, with random thoughts floating around my head, not thinking about poker consciously and all of a sudden I get this thought. The thought is that if I had just joined a forum of neurosurgeons and had been talking with some of them, getting bits of advice here and there... the fact that I could pick up a scalpel and properly make a small incision without killing myself wouldn't mean I could perform surgery and it also wouldn't mean I could expect to make any money at all as a professional surgeon. Well in that instant it became clear to me that I've just had completely unrealisitic and lunatic expectations from my time in the forum and my small foray into the world of poker.

Just because some very experienced poker players are kind enough to give their advice and help complete amateurs, and just because I can 'play' poker at a whim thanks to the ease of online poker, does not mean that I should expect to be a winning player.

Poker is a profession and I need to look at it as such. You can't expect to climb the tiniest of tiny rungs on any career ladder in 8 weeks and yet that is what I've expected and more from my poker.

I had to come and write this while it was still fresh in my head. From now on I am not going to put unrealistic expectations on myself or my game. I am not going to expect to be anywhere near as good as advanced players that are making a living from the game, just because they post summaries of how they do it and are humble enough to speak to beginners in a down to earth unassuming fashion. This should not disguise the fact that most are virtual, if not, actual, professionals - and as such the chasm in understanding, ability, and earnings is huge between where I am now as a novice and where they stand.

This epiphany has also made me realise how lucky I am to be in such a community where a complete beginner has the benefit of so many different peoples experience and skills. I can not think of any other profession in which you can get virtual 1-1 tuition with experts who expect nothing back in return for their time than knowing that their time is not being wasted.

I should head back to bed now Where all this came from just before I was about to fall asleep I don't know, but I'm pleased it became clear to me, my perspective on what I expect from my game has changed big time, as has my appreciation of how lucky I am to have the benefit of so many talented players expertise.

I was just browsing the blogs and came across this little gem of a post.

I personally never had this realization, because I simply never thought of this game as an overnight longterm success thing. Similarly though, I did have a very closely related story:

I first started playing online in play money games for a couple months. Then I started playing in the tiniest penny games online. A couple months into this, I couldn't get to sleep one night. I lied in my bed for literally a few hours just day dreaming about my life. I began to think about money and poker and the possibilities. EUREKA! I suddenly had the same experience that you described a couple weeks ago. I came to the realization that this profession is a possibility. I had never been so optimistic than I was that night.

I just thought I'd share this, as your story sparked a memory I've had but yet to share with this community.

Play well and run g00t btw.

Originally Posted by d0zer

I don't get why everyone's ripping on this guy. Fek, let him do what he wants. All the information about BRM is out there, he's been told countless times, he knows.

Leading a horse to water, then berating him for not drinking is...at best futile. Some people need to get burned a few times before they really learn not to touch the hot stove. I certainly did.

You're right I'm done. Good night sir. I got better things to be doing than posting in this thread. I tried to offer soome constructive criticism and it got thrown back. For the record, you were the first to say you'd sort me out if I ever came to London - I just gladly obliged with your offer. Good night sir, continute to play stars plz, switch to FR cash and play like 25-100NL IMO.

GL.

Originally Posted by luckyslevin

I'm not playing in $50 tournaments dozer?

6543353 22-Aug-08 23:30 NL Holdem $50 67 -$55

This is luckyslev1n on PKR.... I assume that's you.

Thanks bankit


Dozer I wouldn't waste your time you kindly agreed to help me out when you get the time, I have been playing within bankroll management all the games I have played this week - that's about 3 sessions. I have been playing for the past 6 or so hours as well with another 40$ I deposited today and have that to $49 - I've also almost cleared my deposit bonus now from when I first started about 2 months ago so it is soon to shoot up by 50$.

The charts that various people have assuaged my thread with are my whole game - I haven't played pkr.com (this week aside) for about a month, and yes I was awful then with BR but I have learnt from everyones advice.

I have Chardrians degenerate poker favourtied in my history, and have made myself a note not to play outside of my bankroll. So rest assured - there's definate progress!

By not following bankroll management, but continuing to play whatever stake strikes your fancy, you are disrespecting anyone who ever took the time to read any of your posts. Even more so if they ever took the time to answer.

You come off as an idiot who has almost no chance of ever being successful at poker.

Don't worry I won't post here again. I'll just click on the thread when I'm in the mood for "bang-my-head-against-the-wall" humor.

Thanks for supporting on-line poker.

*sigh* I give up. I'm not trying to convince anyone anymore, I'm simply posting my operation - read into it what you will.

And those that do choose to read it I as always truly appreciate your comments.

Back to the tables for me - I'll likely update in a day or two.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

*sigh* I give up.

I think u just summed up most of FTR feelings about this operation thread

Originally Posted by d0zer

Leading a horse to water, then berating him for not drinking is...at best futile. Some people need to get burned a few times before they really learn not to touch the hot stove. I certainly did.

Nail on the head. Now all of you, STFU. Let the man do as he wants.


He'll see if he's right or wrong sooner or later.


Move along now, nothing to see here.

Haven't heard from Lucky for awhile. Scoped him and the cash is still dropping on Stars although he does seem to be sticking to one game. $6.50 6 man turbo's. Why on earth is he addicted to the turbo's???

Well on the way to $100,000 he speaks of in his blog!

Hey deuce, jack, et al.

Just by way of an update I had some success in the 3$'s then donked it away in the 6$ .. then the 28$ i'm just too impatient and the urge to go outside of BR is too great at these inconsequential stakes (I know I shouldn't think of the chips as cash but I can't help it...)

So I'm taking a couple of months off and saving. Next time I play ill have a bankroll of £2k so it will be about $3.5k then at least I can enter the $50 sng's and be more or less rolled for them.

See you in a couple of months

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

Next time I play ill have a bankroll of £2k so it will be about $3.5k then at least I can enter the $50 sng's and be more or less rolled for them.

lol

LOL yeah sounds like a great plan, I really feel moving up to where they respect you raises is the best way forward for your poker career.

You should just give money away to friends and family. That'd be better than giving it to strangers instead.

NERVES OF STEEEEEAAAAAAL!


Can't even beat $1/$3/$5/$6/$10 tournies and you think you'll do better at $50 roflcopter!!!!!!!!

just be sure to check the graphs again in 3 months pal

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

just be sure to check the graphs again in 3 months pal

Cool, when ur -$4k. I just wish I played tournies, that is all.

On a serious note though, if you cant beat $1, $3 and $5 tournies, how'd you expect to beat $50's?

hey slevin i don't mean to be rude and all but can you not see the stupidity of your plans?

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

Hey deuce, jack, et al.

Just by way of an update I had some success in the 3$'s then donked it away in the 6$ .. then the 28$ i'm just too impatient and the urge to go outside of BR is too great at these inconsequential stakes (I know I shouldn't think of the chips as cash but I can't help it...)

So I'm taking a couple of months off and saving. Next time I play ill have a bankroll of £2k so it will be about $3.5k then at least I can enter the $50 sng's and be more or less rolled for them.

See you in a couple of months

Your attitude is going to get you nowhere. You will also never become a good player if you just skip the learning process and move straight to gambling with the big boys. Start with the $10 SnGs and under and then move up from there. Starting at the $50 will be disastrous.

ah dude, depositing another 2k or whatever is literally the worst plan ever, as its 100 percent certain you will lose it all as your obviously terrible at poker. However i wish you the best of luck, your gonna need it :/.

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Your attitude is going to get you nowhere. You will also never become a good player if you just skip the learning process and move straight to gambling with the big boys. Stick with the $3 SnGs and then move up from there. Starting at the $50 will be disastrous for you but hilarious for us.

FYP

train wreck

Read the whole thread and it is awsome lol.

That is all...

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

So I'm taking a couple of months off and saving. Next time I play ill have a bankroll of £2k so it will be about $3.5k then at least I can enter the $50 sng's and be more or less rolled for them.

you sent me a pm asking what i thought of this. I'll go into more detail in a pm, but for here I'll just tell you that I think it's a bad idea.

this here, because I think that it's appropriate

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

The difference will be the money will be meaningful then so I won't have the irresisitable urge to keep playing outside of my bankroll.

This mentality will fuck you over. The reason is obscure. The reason is that the money you are playing with CAN NEVER be meaningful to you while you are playing. If it is, you should stop. If you think in $$ while you are at the table, you will not be able to play an optimal game.

also, what will happen when you start losing meaningful $$? how will you cope with that?

lol how did I miss this hilarious thread!!!

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I have learnt alot from my stay here so far

clearly. . .

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

just be sure to check the graphs again in 3 months pal

I'll be checking them in a week since it seems impossible for you to stay off the tables.

This is now my favorite operation thread ever.

lol, he's already played some today - after last nights revelation! He lost them all, ldo - correction, all bar one. Variance I guess! lol

Seriously stop this, Gary. I'm not going to come down on you but ffs man

OK due to advice from people I respect here I've changed tact.

I'm down about 40$ today.

I did a little checking and I'm about 500$ down in my PS account since I opened it 7 weeks ago.

I have three goals for now.

1. Get my PS bonus released. It's pretty close now I have 435 of 481 bonus points.

2. Play nothing but 3$ SNGS. I'm not going to play anything but these until I have 200$ from the 40$ i'm just about to deposit (my last depsoit of the week) and my released 50$ PS bonus, which means I have about 110$ worth of grinding to do. This is a target that is completely in my control unlike make x amount of money goals which aren't.

3. Stop beating myself and start enjoying the game again. I haven't enjoyed playing for a while now because i've been setting myself make x amount of money targets. It's got to the stage where practically every hand I'm winding myself up and it's just stupid.

Cheers all see you in a bit

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/

lol

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

OK due to advice from people I respect here I've changed tact.

I'm down about 40$ today.

I did a little checking and I'm about 500$ down in my PS account since I opened it 7 weeks ago.

I have three goals for now.

1. Get my PS bonus released. It's pretty close now I have 435 of 481 bonus points.

2. Play nothing but 3$ SNGS. I'm not going to play anything but these until I have 200$ from the 40$ i'm just about to deposit (my last depsoit of the week) and my released 50$ PS bonus, which means I have about 110$ worth of grinding to do. This is a target that is completely in my control unlike make x amount of money goals which aren't.

3. Stop beating myself and start enjoying the game again. I haven't enjoyed playing for a while now because i've been setting myself make x amount of money targets. It's got to the stage where practically every hand I'm winding myself up and it's just stupid.

Cheers all see you in a bit

You do know that if you don't stick to this people will berate you in this thread. Although I hope you do stick to this and start making money, and if you do you will get many congrats. Also you will get the added bonus of the game becoming more enjoyable, which you talk about in point 3.

if you study FTR and manage your roll properly, you will probably make lots of money playing this game.

well I didn't stick to it. Surprise surprise, and I've come unstuck again - despite playing almost flawlessly throughout the match.

Just before the money. From now on when it's 3 handed I'm just folding every hand I dont care if I have Aces preflop. The statistical probability of the hand strength doesn't seem to have any bearing on the outcome of my games. He'd been stealing my blinds for the last 5 rounds and I was getting sick of it.

I know that's why you have br management but this has been happening to me all week and I'm sick of it.

PokerStars Game #20304428047: Tournament #107430844, $12+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/09/10 18:00:21 ET
Table '107430844 1' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: toposub861 (1670 in chips)
Seat 2: xyoungstax (5000 in chips)
Seat 6: LkySlev1n (2330 in chips)
xyoungstax: posts small blind 50
LkySlev1n: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LkySlev1n [9h Jh]
toposub861: folds
xyoungstax: raises 200 to 300
LkySlev1n: raises 400 to 700
xyoungstax: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [7s 8c Td]
xyoungstax: checks
LkySlev1n: bets 1630 and is all-in
xyoungstax: calls 1630
*** TURN *** [7s 8c Td] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [7s 8c Td 6s] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xyoungstax: shows [Ts Ks] (a flush, Ace high)
LkySlev1n: shows [9h Jh] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
xyoungstax said, "wow"
xyoungstax collected 4660 from pot
xyoungstax said, "sorry"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4660 | Rake 0
Board [7s 8c Td 6s As]
Seat 1: toposub861 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: xyoungstax (small blind) showed [Ts Ks] and won (4660) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: LkySlev1n (big blind) showed [9h Jh] and lost with a straight, Seven to Jack

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I know that's why you have br management but this has been happening to me all week and I'm sick of it.

The fact is you SUCK at poker. You can't beat any game. This isn't variance. you just play like a n00b.

if you knew what flawless poker was, surely you wouldn't suck.

gg.

The very next hand I play.

PokerStars Game #20304986278: Tournament #107441083, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/09/10 18:23:18 ET
Table '107441083 1' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: CoinMeUp (630 in chips)
Seat 2: aldo la clas (2100 in chips)
Seat 3: Ace4019 (1250 in chips)
Seat 4: lauberz (1370 in chips)
Seat 5: valentinkuzo (2220 in chips)
Seat 6: LkySlev1n (1430 in chips)
Ace4019: posts small blind 15
lauberz: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LkySlev1n [Ah Ad]
valentinkuzo: folds
LkySlev1n: raises 30 to 60
CoinMeUp: folds
aldo la clas: calls 60
Ace4019: folds
lauberz: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s 4h 8h]
LkySlev1n: bets 100
aldo la clas: raises 100 to 200
LkySlev1n: raises 130 to 330
aldo la clas: raises 1710 to 2040 and is all-in
LkySlev1n: calls 1040 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (670) returned to aldo la clas
*** TURN *** [9s 4h 8h] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [9s 4h 8h 3d] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LkySlev1n: shows [Ah Ad] (a pair of Aces)
aldo la clas: shows [9d 8s] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
aldo la clas collected 2905 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2905 | Rake 0
Board [9s 4h 8h 3d Qs]
Seat 1: CoinMeUp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: aldo la clas (button) showed [9d 8s] and won (2905) with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 3: Ace4019 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: lauberz (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: valentinkuzo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: LkySlev1n showed [Ah Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces

Muzzard stay out of my thread if you are going to do is insult me you tard.

'you just play like a noob' get a life you sound like a 2 year old by the way.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

Muzzard stay out of my thread if you are going to do is insult me you tard.

lol, u play like a retard obv. You've lost over $500 in like a month or w/e. You have no respect for BRM, no learning skills. NOTHING. I hope you lose everything you own.

Sharkscope me: poker_muzz,, I'm not even any good at SNG's either. I won coz I learned goot strategy, listened to ppl in these forums and observed BRM. Now i just play SNG's for fun when I'm tired of playing cash.

Both those hands are terrible. Have you even openned the SNG forum let alone read any of the tactics threads?

THATS WHAT BANKROLL MANAGEMENT IS FOR!!! SHIT HAPPENS - POKER IS A CRUEL MISTRESS. YOU HAVE NEVER BEATEN ANY LEVEL AND YET YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN AT $12 WITHOUT GOOD BANKROLL MANAGEMENT???? LET GO OF YOUR FUCKING EGO, IF YOU WANT TO GET GOOD AT THIS GAME YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN SOME SELF-DISCIPLINE.

End caps, now it's time for he real berating to begin.

Re-read this thread. Properly. It's an absolute embarassment. You have been ruled by your ego ever since you started playing this game, you ignored the advice of many experienced professionals, you have failed time and time again to discipline yourself.

Do you not feel ashamed when great poker players who are regulars at 400nl+ like Dean, mcat and irisheyes come and laugh at you? And how do you prove them wrong? Oh yeah, by being a fucking degen, failing to control yourself emotionally and moving up so you don't have to play donks. Well, I've got news for you

IT'S EASIER TO PLAY AGAINST THE DONKS OMG.

A player I have great respect for that maybe not a lot of other forum members will have heard of is mattiesmat (same name on ps look at his sharkscope graph.) When I used to play SnGs and post in the SnG forum he would post at least 2-3 hands a day and also cross post them on 2p2. He came across very humbly and was eager to learn, and I think it was mcat (maybe making this up) that said he had a great attitude and could make a lot of money at this game. Having basically forgotten about him, I saw one of his posts on Deuces Cracked and checked his sharkscope.... Up 18k+ in basically a variance free straightline graph.

You on the other hand came to the forum and immediately started berating others. If I recall correctly one of the things you argued about was bankroll management. You see how ludicrous this sounds? And you wonder why we didn't/don't take you seriously?

I would have FAR more respect for you if you were a slight loser at the $3 or even $1 SnGs and had trouble with your game. You post that you will change and then two posts later you're playing $12 tournaments again? It's fucking ridiculous. You're a disgrace, either sort yourself out or get the fuck out, you will get no sympathy for you badbeats here.

NO MORE FUCKING EXCUSES.

I've never sworn so much in one post, you have tilted me beyond belief. This post took 10 mins to write and I better not have wasted my time on a lost cause....

Thanks for your input much appreciated.

And pardon my juvenile response to muzzard, he's like a pet that keeps coming back and I shouldn't really complain. I'm growing quite fond of his childish antics.

As it goes badger your right I know your right mate. Will I ever learn I doubt it. As for my thread being an embarrasment to me, it's not really - it's just the way things have turned out. I wouldn't say I'm embarrased by my inability to stick to the poker regime, dissapointed but not embarassed. I've done things much worse than set and break goals in my life.

And so it is that another stack of chips have been donked. To save the monotonous cycle of ... goals ---> plan ---> oh i've failed again and played like a delinquent... I'm not posting my next mini-operation until it's complete.

So the next post will be after I've accomplished the goal and not before. Will it ever be written? I'd like to think so, how long will it take? I have no idea.

In the meantime I'm going to find a job, that may prove useful, it's a toss up between that and going back to Uni (or college or whatever you american guys and lasses call it) - so while I'm waiting for the yay or nay on my student loan application (re-application actually, I quit halfway through the second year last time I went to University) I'm going to look for a decent job. Might try to get into journalism somehow. Oh.. well I'm waffling now and have veered off the minefield that is my poker journey - so as always, those that are friendly and those that are not - thanks for reading. Be safe, play well - and next time I post it should be some good news =)

This is rad.

By playing $3 SnGs, a 20% ROI is 0.30 per tourney. So to make $100 you would have to play 300. That's assuming you actually play flawlessly. Without a massive attitude adjustment you're doomed to fail because you are orders of magnitude away from patient enough to pull this off. Fuck, with a $100 roll you should barely be playing the $3s until you learn more.

The major reasons your Jh9h hand sucks have little to do with your cards. If you had read ANYPOSTS or listened to ANYONE as suggested by chard and bjaust at the beginning of this thread you wouldn't even be here.

/just wasted more time out of my life, fuck

I've been watching quite a few videos on deuces cracked recently the NLHE real life series, and the from the ground up - that's where I've got most of my strategy from.

I thought I knew what I was doing, in fact I still do think I half half an idea on a hand by hand basis. I think 9/10 big hands I've played I've been beaten against the odds today. I know thats poker, but that's why I'm reluctant to conceed that my 'poker playing strategy' bankroll aside, is seriously flawed.

Not wanting to leave any stone unturned however, I will re read all the relevent strategy posts and absorb them as best I can before I play again. I'm chilled out now, my perspective has returned, for the first time since I found it poker is no longer fun, so it will be a while before I play again - probabally a good thing though. Quite how it remained fun for so long is nothing short of miraculous in itself given the rate at which I was losing money! I think this forum is the best part of poker that I've found. My poker journey for better or worse has been a lot more enjoyable for it. Thanks for taking the time to post - reading more strategy here is good advice and I'll take it up if I play any more

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I'm reluctant to conceed that my 'poker playing strategy' is seriously flawed.

lol, funniest thing I heard in a while

Muzzard try quoting in context or at least indicating the bankroll bit you cut out with some periods next time: [quote]....miss a chunk out...[continue quote] that sort of thing.

By the way for the record I have now officially conceeded that my playing strategy must be full of holes. I've put my basic strategy here, what are your thoughts is it really that bad?

I have a flip pad with each position written on it for 6max,

Each position has it's own page with the hands I will open with, hands that I can call a raise from and hands that I 3 bet. I never limp always raise 3.5-4bb + 1bb for each limper.


Button
Opening:
All pairs, Ace-X(s), Ace-5(o)+, T-9(s)-65(s), J9(s)-97(s), K9(s), Q9(s)

Call a raise with
KQ(s) - 65(s), PP <QQ , AQ

Call a multiway raise with these in addition to above:
Ace-X(s) , any 2 broadways, T8(s)-75(s).

3bet:
AK, PP >= QQ

SB
No limpers
All PP's, AK(o/s), AT(o/s),A9(s), KQ, QJ-JT(s),KJ(s)

With limpers - I call with
A-X(s), any two broadways, 98(s),76(s) PP < 88

With limpers - I reraise with
AK, AJ, AT(s), KQ, PP > 88

BB
Against anyone but the small blind alone
All pairs, AK, AJ, AT(s), KQ

Against just small blind
All pairs, A-X(s), A5(o)+, T9(s)-65(s), J9(s) - 97(s), K9(s) - Q9(s)

UTG

Opening with:
All pairs, AK, AJ, AT(s), KQ

Calling a sensible raise with all.

MP
opening
All pairs, AK, AT, A9(s)+, KQ, QJ-JT(s), KJ(s)

calling a raise with
PP < QQ, AQ

3betting
PP QQ+, AK

CO
opening
All PPs, Any 2 broadway, ACE-6(s) + , 89(s)+

call a raise with
KQ(s)- 65(s), PP < QQ, AQ

call a multiway raise with
ACE-X(s), any two broadways, T8(s) - 75(s)
3bet
AK, AQ, JJ, TT

Hands I'm prepared to go all in preflop with if shoved:

QQ, KK, AA, AK

I have also been paying attention and trying to hone in on ranges for the players around me, are they LAG? NITs? passive?

I've also been paying attention to the texture of the flop, did they call my continuation bets with 2 same suited cards from the flop and then bet over me when the third hit? that sort of thing.

That's been my strategy so far. I'm sure there's room for improvement but I didn't think it was too bad...

By the way I am still running so bad you wouldn't beleive it.

Been playing with my FPP points on Stars, first hand I play in an MTT 500 man. I know most people wouldn't raise preflop but I like being aggressive, I play carefully post flop but find if I raise and fire again on the flop most just throw the hand away, as long as it's not too frequent. anyway. Haven't got much full ring experience and felt like mixing it up a bit pre flop.

PokerStars Game #20310521354: Tournament #107455771, 15FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/09/10 22:23:51 ET
Table '107455771 44' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: PlayBoiJuice (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: bcmiller77 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: AllVince (1460 in chips)
Seat 4: scorelias (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Minwu (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: ricko67 (1570 in chips)
Seat 7: reener911 (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: Vdeeppockets (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: SLICK770 (1500 in chips)
Seat 10: LkySlev1n (1500 in chips)
AllVince: posts small blind 10
scorelias: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LkySlev1n [Ks 4d]
Minwu: folds
ricko67: calls 20
reener911: folds
Vdeeppockets: folds
SLICK770: folds
LkySlev1n: raises 60 to 80
PlayBoiJuice: folds
bcmiller77: calls 80
AllVince: folds
scorelias: calls 60
ricko67: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [4c Kc 2h]
scorelias: checks
ricko67: checks
LkySlev1n: bets 200
bcmiller77: folds
scorelias: calls 200
ricko67: folds
*** TURN *** [4c Kc 2h] [Qh]
scorelias: checks
LkySlev1n: bets 1220 and is all-in
scorelias: calls 1220 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [4c Kc 2h Qh] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
scorelias: shows [2d 3d] (three of a kind, Deuces)
LkySlev1n: shows [Ks 4d] (two pair, Kings and Fours)
scorelias collected 3170 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3170 | Rake 0
Board [4c Kc 2h Qh 2s]
Seat 1: PlayBoiJuice folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bcmiller77 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: AllVince (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: scorelias (big blind) showed [2d 3d] and won (3170) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 5: Minwu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ricko67 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: reener911 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Vdeeppockets folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SLICK770 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: LkySlev1n showed [Ks 4d] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fours

lol isolating a UTG+1 raise with K4o. Yeah, ur game has no holes

*sarcasm*

I wasn't isolating I was bored it was 60 chips in a 500 man mtt, it's called being unpredictable. Something you wouldn't know about, because you're as predictable as clockwork.

Slevin posts.
Muzzard wastes another 3 lines of cyberspace with a nonsense reply.
Slevin posts.
Continue... ad infinitum.

Anyway what are you still doing up? Isn't it past your bed time?

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I wasn't isolating I was bored it was 60 chips in a 500 man mtt, it's called being unpredictable. Something you wouldn't know about, because your as predictable as clockwork.

Slevin posts.
Muzzard wastes another 3 lines of cyberspace with a nonsense reply.
Slevin posts.
Continue... ad infintum.

I was bored, there u go - your whole problem. You probably get 'bored' at $5 SNG's so u raise like Q3o and whine when u get beat. The fact of the matter is you suck, can't take criticism, don't listen and don't stick to any kind of plan.

I semi-suck, listen to ppl, follow a plan and beat the game I play for a decent win-rate.

YOU'RE A FUCKING TWAT AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE IN THIS WHOLE FORUM THINK SO. YOU ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF FTR. EVERYONE LOL'S AT THE NEW SLEVIN POSTS

MIRC:

<xxxx> lol,new post by slevin
<xxxx> it's a classic
<xxxx> lol, send me a link
<xxxx> hahahahahhaa
<xxxx> that guy's a total douchebagand has no fucking cluelol
<xxxx> epic

Literally I will play you HU4rollz anytime you say.

stop trying to group you as 'we' in a crappy attempt at excluding me. I have told you many times I DONT WANT YOUR advice. I also don't want any part of your attempt at creating a flame war in my thread. Just dont post simple.

It's not like I haven't asked you not to post in the past is it? Now run along, there's a good boy.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

stop trying to group you as 'we' in a crappy attempt at excluding me. I have told you many times I DONT WANT YOUR advice. You like a cat on the street to me. You are the only person here I have absolutely no respect for. You waste your time and pollute my thread with your drivel, so go find something else to do muzzard, seriously - I mean can you not take a hint? Don't dress up nonsense to try to make it look constructive. I don't care for your advice I don't know how franker I can be. Now run along, there's a good boy.

HU4rollz? Oh wait you only have like $2 coz you blew it on $50 HU razz lulz

Note to moderator:
Please warn this retard if he continues to post nonsense in my thread it's just polluting my thread.

Much obliged.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

Note to moderator:
Please warn this retard if he continues to post nonsense in my thread it's just polluting my thread.

Much obliged.

You're polluting the whole of FTR with ur shit

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

Note to moderator:
Please warn this retard if he continues to post nonsense in my thread it's just polluting my thread.

Much obliged.

LuckySlevin, please stop making retarded posts in this thread.

Ur welcome.

Originally Posted by Warpe

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

Note to moderator:
Please warn this retard if he continues to post nonsense in my thread it's just polluting my thread.

Much obliged.

LuckySlevin, please stop making retarded posts in this thread.

Ur welcome.

[x] slevin gets pwnd by mod

Just for the record this is a summary of mr insecures contributions to my thread. (and that's all I can put it down to an intense insecurity that leaves him feeling the need to try to prove himself at my expense, which just backfires miserably making him look like a complete dick.)

Originally Posted by Muzzard

you suck, but i hope you get better soon. Sorry to be negative but alot of your post are egocentric, just stop sucking and get better imo. Also stop asking dumb questions, research. If u cant find the answer then post, or else it looks like ur a lazy dumb fuck.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Looks like things aren't improving greatly

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Looks like you lost the whole $60



I'm not trying to be an arse, just trying to get you to take some responsibility with your money and your roll. Keep reading and learning new things, it looks like ur game has serious leaks.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

slevs will probably not post here again.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

bump for update? Keep up the good BRM

103774939 23-Aug-08 06:42 NL Holdem $1 9 -$1.20
103772950 23-Aug-08 06:10 NL Holdem $1 9 -$1.20
103751135 23-Aug-08 04:46 TURBO NL Holdem $11 180 -$12
103654040 22-Aug-08 19:12 FL 7 Card Stud H/L $50 2 $47.50
103648637 22-Aug-08 18:52 FL 7 Card Stud H/L $20 2 -$21
102778883 19-Aug-08 03:47 TURBO PL Omaha $11 4 -$11.50
102981402 19-Aug-08 03:13 NL Holdem $21.25 2 -$22.25
102960811 19-Aug-08 03:12 NL Holdem $10 45 -$11

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by Deuce Blue

PKR Results

Recent Results Show Last 50 Results (1 Search)
GameID Date (CST) Type EntryFee Entrants Profit
6573862 24-Aug-08 21:48 NL Holdem $1 6 -$1.10
6573078 24-Aug-08 20:06 NL Holdem $1 10 $3.90
6560888 23-Aug-08 19:41 NL Holdem $20 10 -$22
6560801 23-Aug-08 19:37 NL Holdem $5 10 -$5.50
6560522 23-Aug-08 19:22 NL Holdem $3.60 10 -$4
6560437 23-Aug-08 18:41 NL Holdem $1 10 -$1.10
6543353 22-Aug-08 23:30 NL Holdem $50 67 -$55
6552890 22-Aug-08 21:21 TURBO NL Holdem (Sat) $0.25 32 -$0.02

Not suprising, how'd u know his PKR name? I guess he started playing on PKR so we couldnt see what a degen on stars he was.

I don't know how many times you need to be told about BRM, but I'm guessing most ppl will just give up now. It doesnt seem to be sinking in - I very much doubt ur that 'sponge' you suggested in some thread somewhere.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by d0zer

I don't get why everyone's ripping on this guy. Fek, let him do what he wants. All the information about BRM is out there, he's been told countless times, he knows.

Leading a horse to water, then berating him for not drinking is...at best futile. Some people need to get burned a few times before they really learn not to touch the hot stove. I certainly did.

You're right I'm done. Good night sir. I got better things to be doing than posting in this thread. I tried to offer soome constructive criticism and it got thrown back. For the record, you were the first to say you'd sort me out if I ever came to London - I just gladly obliged with your offer. Good night sir, continute to play stars plz, switch to FR cash and play like 25-100NL IMO.

GL.

Originally Posted by luckyslevin

I'm not playing in $50 tournaments dozer?

6543353 22-Aug-08 23:30 NL Holdem $50 67 -$55

This is luckyslev1n on PKR.... I assume that's you.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

*sigh* I give up.

I think u just summed up most of FTR feelings about this operation thread

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Well on the way to $100,000 he speaks of in his blog!

Originally Posted by Muzzard

lol, he's already played some today - after last nights revelation! He lost them all, ldo - correction, all bar one. Variance I guess! lol

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I know that's why you have br management but this has been happening to me all week and I'm sick of it.

The fact is you SUCK at poker. You can't beat any game. This isn't variance. you just play like a n00b.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I wasn't isolating I was bored it was 60 chips in a 500 man mtt, it's called being unpredictable. Something you wouldn't know about, because your as predictable as clockwork.

Slevin posts.
Muzzard wastes another 3 lines of cyberspace with a nonsense reply.
Slevin posts.
Continue... ad infintum.

I was bored, there u go - your whole problem. You probably get 'bored' at $5 SNG's so u raise like Q3o and whine when u get beat. The fact of the matter is you suck, can't take criticism, don't listen and don't stick to any kind of plan.

I semi-suck, listen to ppl, follow a plan and beat the game I play for a decent win-rate.

YOU'RE A FUCKING TWAT AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE IN THIS WHOLE FORUM THINK SO. YOU ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF FTR. EVERYONE LOL'S AT THE NEW SLEVIN POSTS

MIRC:

<xxxx> lol,new post by slevin
<xxxx> it's a classic
<xxxx> lol, send me a link
<xxxx> hahahahahhaa
<xxxx> that guy's a total douchebagand has no fucking cluelol
<xxxx> epic

Literally I will play you HU4rollz anytime you say.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

Just for the record this is a summary of mr insecures contributions to my thread. (and that's all I can put it down to an intense insecurity that leaves him feeling the need to try to prove himself at my expense, which just backfires miserably making him look like a complete dick.)

Originally Posted by Muzzard

you suck, but i hope you get better soon. Sorry to be negative but alot of your post are egocentric, just stop sucking and get better imo. Also stop asking dumb questions, research. If u cant find the answer then post, or else it looks like ur a lazy dumb fuck.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Looks like things aren't improving greatly

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Looks like you lost the whole $60



I'm not trying to be an arse, just trying to get you to take some responsibility with your money and your roll. Keep reading and learning new things, it looks like ur game has serious leaks.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

slevs will probably not post here again.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

bump for update? Keep up the good BRM

103774939 23-Aug-08 06:42 NL Holdem $1 9 -$1.20
103772950 23-Aug-08 06:10 NL Holdem $1 9 -$1.20
103751135 23-Aug-08 04:46 TURBO NL Holdem $11 180 -$12
103654040 22-Aug-08 19:12 FL 7 Card Stud H/L $50 2 $47.50
103648637 22-Aug-08 18:52 FL 7 Card Stud H/L $20 2 -$21
102778883 19-Aug-08 03:47 TURBO PL Omaha $11 4 -$11.50
102981402 19-Aug-08 03:13 NL Holdem $21.25 2 -$22.25
102960811 19-Aug-08 03:12 NL Holdem $10 45 -$11

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by Deuce Blue

PKR Results

Recent Results Show Last 50 Results (1 Search)
GameID Date (CST) Type EntryFee Entrants Profit
6573862 24-Aug-08 21:48 NL Holdem $1 6 -$1.10
6573078 24-Aug-08 20:06 NL Holdem $1 10 $3.90
6560888 23-Aug-08 19:41 NL Holdem $20 10 -$22
6560801 23-Aug-08 19:37 NL Holdem $5 10 -$5.50
6560522 23-Aug-08 19:22 NL Holdem $3.60 10 -$4
6560437 23-Aug-08 18:41 NL Holdem $1 10 -$1.10
6543353 22-Aug-08 23:30 NL Holdem $50 67 -$55
6552890 22-Aug-08 21:21 TURBO NL Holdem (Sat) $0.25 32 -$0.02

Not suprising, how'd u know his PKR name? I guess he started playing on PKR so we couldnt see what a degen on stars he was.

I don't know how many times you need to be told about BRM, but I'm guessing most ppl will just give up now. It doesnt seem to be sinking in - I very much doubt ur that 'sponge' you suggested in some thread somewhere.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by d0zer

I don't get why everyone's ripping on this guy. Fek, let him do what he wants. All the information about BRM is out there, he's been told countless times, he knows.

Leading a horse to water, then berating him for not drinking is...at best futile. Some people need to get burned a few times before they really learn not to touch the hot stove. I certainly did.

You're right I'm done. Good night sir. I got better things to be doing than posting in this thread. I tried to offer soome constructive criticism and it got thrown back. For the record, you were the first to say you'd sort me out if I ever came to London - I just gladly obliged with your offer. Good night sir, continute to play stars plz, switch to FR cash and play like 25-100NL IMO.

GL.

Originally Posted by luckyslevin

I'm not playing in $50 tournaments dozer?

6543353 22-Aug-08 23:30 NL Holdem $50 67 -$55

This is luckyslev1n on PKR.... I assume that's you.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

*sigh* I give up.

I think u just summed up most of FTR feelings about this operation thread

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Well on the way to $100,000 he speaks of in his blog!

Originally Posted by Muzzard

lol, he's already played some today - after last nights revelation! He lost them all, ldo - correction, all bar one. Variance I guess! lol

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I know that's why you have br management but this has been happening to me all week and I'm sick of it.

The fact is you SUCK at poker. You can't beat any game. This isn't variance. you just play like a n00b.

^^^^^FACTS

YOU'VE DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO ASSUAGE ANYTHING I'VE SAID BY IMPROVING YOUR GAME AND BEATING MICRO LIMITS.

I don't need to prove anything, look me up on sharkscope (even though I don't really play tournies), my graphs on a few threads etc. I beat my level enough so I don't have to work. The only reason I post here is coz you're a total fucking moron.

'I beat my level enough so I dont have to work'

' look me up on sharkscope'

what is your need for constant self aggrandizement

Just go away what is your persitence with my thread? You are less than a deformed amoeba to me, do you not understand? I don't want your advice, and I don't care about how great you think you are.

Oh I'm a total fucking moron now too am I? Stop projecting your insecurities on to me and just get a life, seriously.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

stop talking about looking you up on sharkscope make your own thread if you want to prove yourself no one cares about you, well I certainly dont. Now just go away what is your persitence with my thread? You are less than a deformed amoeba to me, do you not understand? I don't want your advice.

Oh I'm a total fucking moron now too am I? Stop projecting your insecurities on to me and just get a life, seriously.

lol, i'll keep posting in this train wreck

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

'I beat my level enough so I dont have to work'

' look me up on sharkscope'

what is your need for constant self aggrandizement

Just go away what is your persitence with my thread? You are less than a deformed amoeba to me, do you not understand? I don't want your advice.

Oh I'm a total fucking moron now too am I? Stop projecting your insecurities on to me and just get a life, seriously.

Keep editing your threads

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

stop talking about looking you up on sharkscope make your own thread if you want to prove yourself no one cares about you, well I certainly dont. Now just go away what is your persitence with my thread? You are less than a deformed amoeba to me, do you not understand? I don't want your advice.

Oh I'm a total fucking moron now too am I? Stop projecting your insecurities on to me and just get a life, seriously.

lol, i'll keep posting in this train wreck

Wow how sad.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

'I beat my level enough so I dont have to work'

' look me up on sharkscope'

what is your need for constant self aggrandizement

Just go away what is your persitence with my thread? You are less than a deformed amoeba to me, do you not understand? I don't want your advice.

Oh I'm a total fucking moron now too am I? Stop projecting your insecurities on to me and just get a life, seriously.

Keep editing your threads

It's a post not a thread moron.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

'I beat my level enough so I dont have to work'

' look me up on sharkscope'

what is your need for constant self aggrandizement

Just go away what is your persitence with my thread? You are less than a deformed amoeba to me, do you not understand? I don't want your advice.

Oh I'm a total fucking moron now too am I? Stop projecting your insecurities on to me and just get a life, seriously.

Keep editing your threads

It's a post not a thread moron.

Sorry forum master

I'll look forward to hijacking your next thread by the way, it's obviously perfectly acceptible judging from the lack of moderation - I shouldn't really stoop to such levels, but horses for courses I suspose.

It's difficult to type with these tears in my eyes..... laughing is good for teh soul. Don't believe the haters Slevin you win it your way!!

This train wreck better take a turn for the better soon or I will move it to the recycle bin in due time.


first off it's slev1ns OP thread so he can post anything he wants.

Second, if slev1n is going to keep posting shit I will delete it anyway

3rd, if your not going to ask for advice, take advice and show that you are using said advice, maybe your time would be better suited looking through youtbue videos.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I'll look forward to hijacking your next thread by the way, it's obviously perfectly acceptible judging from the lack of moderation - I shouldn't really stoop to such levels, but horses for courses I suspose.

Do it, it'll give me great pleasure. I doubt you'll be able to contribute anything substantive, but w/e... I'll get some lolzzzzzz

Hi Jyms its just muzzards advice specficically I don't care for, I very much enjoy reading anyone else that posts in the thread

Originally Posted by kingnat

It's difficult to type with these tears in my eyes..... laughing is good for teh soul. Don't believe the haters Slevin you win it your way!!

thanks man

6-max cash != 6 max SNGs.

The fact you dont seem to realise you need to adjust for the shortstacked nature of SNGs is a HUGE hole in your poker strategy. Again, this is covered in a lot of detail in the tactics threads in the SNG forum. This isnt rocket science man.

Originally Posted by jyms

This train wreck better take a turn for the better soon or I will move it to the recycle bin in due time.


first off it's slev1ns OP thread so he can post anything he wants.

Second, if slev1n is going to keep posting shit I will delete it anyway

3rd, if your not going to ask for advice, take advice and show that you are using said advice, maybe your time would be better suited looking through youtbue videos.

Firstly, yes I know he can post what he wants

Secondly, I don't think he's ever going to stop posting shit

Thirdly, he's never going to actually ask for or take any advice

Originally Posted by bjsaust

6-max cash != 6 max SNGs.

The fact you dont seem to realise you need to adjust for the shortstacked nature of SNGs is a HUGE hole in your poker strategy. Again, this is covered in a lot of detail in the tactics threads in the SNG forum. This isnt rocket science man.

Thanks BJ I'll check them out - and try to fix that hole before I play any more sngs. What 'did me up a bit' was the fact that I used those starting hands and got 40$ to 90$ in the sng's (before playing out of BR as previously reported in the thread). I must have just been 'lucky' to do that with the six max cash strategy I was using... maybe this is where it's all been going wrong - thanks again, I'll try to make the adjustments for next time I play and see what results I get.

Originally Posted by animal_chin

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

OK due to advice from people I respect here I've changed tact.

I'm down about 40$ today.

I did a little checking and I'm about 500$ down in my PS account since I opened it 7 weeks ago.

I have three goals for now.

1. Get my PS bonus released. It's pretty close now I have 435 of 481 bonus points.

2. Play nothing but 3$ SNGS. I'm not going to play anything but these until I have 200$ from the 40$ i'm just about to deposit (my last depsoit of the week) and my released 50$ PS bonus, which means I have about 110$ worth of grinding to do. This is a target that is completely in my control unlike make x amount of money goals which aren't.

3. Stop beating myself and start enjoying the game again. I haven't enjoyed playing for a while now because i've been setting myself make x amount of money targets. It's got to the stage where practically every hand I'm winding myself up and it's just stupid.

Cheers all see you in a bit

You do know that if you don't stick to this people will berate you in this thread. Although I hope you do stick to this and start making money, and if you do you will get many congrats. Also you will get the added bonus of the game becoming more enjoyable, which you talk about in point 3.

I told ya so.

Originally Posted by LuckySlevin

I wasn't isolating I was bored it was 60 chips in a 500 man mtt, it's called being unpredictable. Something you wouldn't know about, because you're as predictable as clockwork.

Slevin posts.
Muzzard wastes another 3 lines of cyberspace with a nonsense reply.
Slevin posts.
Continue... ad infinitum.

Anyway what are you still doing up? Isn't it past your bed time?

This is the lamest excuse/comeback I have ever seen. So you're saying Muzz is predictable. I agree. I predict him to stick to bankroll management. I predict that he doesn't make retarded spew plays in with K4 in the beginning of a MTT (of course these are all assumptions based on his posts, sharscope graphs, evidence I have collected, etc), but I am pretty sure I am right. Even though you don't think so you are predictable Slev1n. Every time I open this thread I say "I bet Slev1ns going to say that he is going to follow good bankroll management and then play out of his roll." Not only that I also predict that you are going to loose. So you see Slev1n you are predictable, predictable as clockwork.


Edit: 5 s on the thread BTW.