So? How much are you up or Down

Up about $8k now, playing 6max at £50NL and dipping my toes back into $100NL (which is practically the same thanks to the exchange rate). However, I have decided to actively discount* the money I have spent on two holidays and two laptops from my roll, so technically, my BR is $2,500


*this is kinda arbitrary accounting, as I did have the money for all these outside my BR, but I like the idea of poker meaning I can afford nice things - and in any case, there's no WAY I am moving above $100NL in the foreseeable future, so $2.5k is easily enough for the time being

Originally Posted by biondino

there's no WAY I am moving above $100NL in the foreseeable future

Why?

He's letting me catch up.

I deposited $100 little over a year ago. I was up to $1800, about $1000 of which is bonuses. I cashed out $1k which will be replaced after I get a job.

Currently playing 50NL

Why? Because I haven't even managed to beat/play enough hands at $100 yet, and I have little doubt that the lack of confidence that kept me at £25NL for 80k hands will prevent me moving further up any time soon. Also, poker kinda stops being a fun hobby when there are large sums of money involved and I don't want it to.

Only up by about 20% since starting to play in July. I think my biggest problem is table selection as when I play its really early in the US or early morning in Europe. The tables are tight & rockish. Tried to drop down to $10NL 6-max on Titan yesterday but they are folding BIG hands!! I think Bodog or Pokerstars are much better and I should just stop trying to clear that Titan bonus. Also on Titan yesterday a $10+1 SNG and by 100/200 blinds (starting stack 1000) there are still 8 players left!!

Biondino has probably the most experience on FTR at the $25NL level and he's teaching me to beat it. I have nothing to lose and $$$ to gain by moving up, so when the time comes, the teacher will become the student.

I passed the $100k mark a couple months ago after 2 years and 11 months of playing online. It took me ~$900-$1100 to lose to start winning. Most of my winnings have come from donkaments but I'm getting better at cash games. I've played for a living from Feb. 04-Sept. 04, and I've been playing for a living from Jan 05-present.

Originally Posted by biondino

Why? Because I haven't even managed to beat/play enough hands at $100 yet, and I have little doubt that the lack of confidence that kept me at £25NL for 80k hands will prevent me moving further up any time soon. Also, poker kinda stops being a fun hobby when there are large sums of money involved and I don't want it to.

I played 100NL in June this year. I'd never thought I'd beat 400NL by this time, or even imagine playing for these sums. Now I do. It just happened. It's much more fun now, trust me When you get over the scared part and realize that you can beat a higher stake, it gets less scary and you get more $$$. Don't be afraid, at least give the thought a chance. If you always think you don't have the confidence, you'll never get it.

i started at 2nl early last year and played off and on. played for the first 1/4 of this year and cashed out. re-started in august. i've probably played actively for a total of 1 year. current total profit ~$4k ($3k since august)

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

Biondino has probably the most experience on FTR at the $25NL level and he's teaching me to beat it. I have nothing to lose and $$$ to gain by moving up, so when the time comes, the teacher will become the student.

I think I have more than him. STATS?

Originally Posted by Setzy

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

Biondino has probably the most experience on FTR at the $25NL level and he's teaching me to beat it. I have nothing to lose and $$$ to gain by moving up, so when the time comes, the teacher will become the student.

I think I have more than him. STATS?

why do you have so much experience at 25nl? why stay there for so long?

Originally Posted by Setzy

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

Biondino has probably the most experience on FTR at the $25NL level and he's teaching me to beat it. I have nothing to lose and $$$ to gain by moving up, so when the time comes, the teacher will become the student.

I think I have more than him. STATS?

that's why I said "probably" I felt there may be one other. Are you the "one" they talk about.

yea that fool has played like 50k hands at 25nl

$25NL challenge??? Total hands at all $25NL tables or equivelent. I.E: $20NL, 6max, 5max, and other currencies. Without looking I can say honestly 15k+ for me. all in the last month and a half.

Originally Posted by Renton

yea that fool has played like 50k hands at 25nl

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

Biondino has probably the most experience on FTR at the $25NL level and he's teaching me to beat it.

nothing against biondino here........but how good can someone be that spends so much time at $25nl ? if they were beating the game for a good amount then they wouldnt be at $25nl anymore

I am up 11K since March. But still playing 100nl -- Breaking even at 200nl.

I only play at 10k hands a month

Originally Posted by gabe

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

Biondino has probably the most experience on FTR at the $25NL level and he's teaching me to beat it.

nothing against biondino here........but how good can someone be that spends so much time at $25nl ? if they were beating the game for a good amount then they wouldnt be at $25nl anymore

I think that may be a little unfair. he's stated his reasons for staying at those stakes and £50nl for as long as he has.

yea i probably sound bad because i dont know the reasons

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=40782

reasons....

reasons....

Number two is a good reason.

The rest are about being comfortable, and I am very confident that biondino (or anyone) will be able to settle down at a higher level after a few 1000 hands.

IMHO when you are really comfortable at a level you should be looking to move up.

Originally Posted by biondino

Also, poker kinda stops being a fun hobby when there are large sums of money involved and I don't want it to.

For me that's not true. Right now I'm having more fun breaking even (and quite possibly losing long-term, too early to tell) at 200NL than I ever had beating 25NL. People are different, of course, but I believe that one of the first things you should learn as a poker player is to distance yourself somewhat from the money involved.

Originally Posted by gabe

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

Biondino has probably the most experience on FTR at the $25NL level and he's teaching me to beat it.

nothing against biondino here........but how good can someone be that spends so much time at $25nl ? if they were beating the game for a good amount then they wouldnt be at $25nl anymore

ouch!

bio's got talent.. hes a winning player. IMO there isnt much difference between 25-50-100NL. there are regulars at all levels. i have resepect for anyone who can consistantly win.

Yeah, if it's unclear I'll explicitly state that I have no disrespect for biondino what so ever.

But this thing is moving off topic fast, how 'bout continuing this discussion in bio's blog comment thread? http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-44273.htm
(that way I don't have to juggle different points for different threads lol )

dont say 'ouch!' because that means my post was taken the wrong way!!

Originally Posted by gabe

dont say 'ouch!' because that means my post was taken the wrong way!!

ok. i took it the wrong way. my bad. the first time i read it it sounded like a zinger.

I'm up a little over $1,000 since I started last year. I've been up and down, trying different games.

I've had many "restarts" at 25NL, sending me back to the pits from whence I came. When I first started I got staked, grinded up a bunch of buyins and paid my staker back, then I grinded my my OWN roll again...then after Party closed I started on my microroll and grinded 25NL a THIRD time. It's all in my blog.

Hello,

Since I'm being discussed I might as well contribute! I have played maybe 15k hands at $25 and maybe 75k hands at £25 (which does almost equate to $50, after all).

Gabe has a good point, though - I can beat £25 at 8PTBB/100 over A LOT of hands but I don't think I have the game to consistently pwn $100. Well, actually, maybe I do, but the psychological factors are a big issue. I had my worst night ever last night, in bald financial terms - down 4 buyins at £50NL despite playing fine for the most part - which makes me down about $500 for the week. Anyway, I need to overcome these factors before I can commit to $100 - perhaps I should discuss my game with a $200NL winner because I'm sure it's full of holes (trying to pick on weakness that isn't there, for example - I am over-aggressive on the flop but fold to strength too quickly afterwards, for example).

So, to conclude - I AM a winning player but I'm not as good as I should be because I've been scared to move up. I SHOULD be a winning player at $100 by now, but I'm not. Maybe I don't, fundamentally, have the balls to be, and if that is the case then I'm not going to ruin poker for myself as a hobby by playing outside my comfort zone. I'm weak/tight, on the tables and off them

p.s. Gabe, if you ever want to talk poker, help me out a bit, aim me (markelby) - I'd appreciate it as you're someone I admire who often points out flaws in my reasoning, and I think I need that.

In my experience between the two, I think at micro-limits FR is way better suited for weak-tighties than 6-max. And I bug you about that shit every day in jest, but I still think it's true.

Dude my BB/100 is higher at 6max and my winrate is like double in time terms - oh, and you actually get to play poker at 6max

Just another update, my $100 = $400 now ($50isbonus)
still at the .05/.10NL on POKER STARS

Is the .10/.25NL on poker stars the same play as .05/.10?
I'm hoping to move up in the near future.

Present Day: $7340... was as high as $9128- but i had a horrendous 2-3 week stretch where nothing was going right for me (NL100)... You may be wonderng why i am playing NL100 with 90 buy-ins? Peace of Mind & Comfortability... I've started a new micro roll like setzy and built it up nicely but I am about to get back to playing with my correct BR and re-focus myself back @ 100NL... i am still waiting for that magical $10,000 mark which i have not hit yet.... nice job Mr. Happy glad to see things are finally working for you and ur making some money!!

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

Is the .10/.25NL on poker stars the same play as .05/.10?
I'm hoping to move up in the near future.

i don't think it's much different. really since i've moved from 10nl to 100nl in the past few months i really haven't noticed a difference at any level. just play good.

Originally Posted by biondino

oh, and you actually get to play poker at 6max

ya but who wants to do that?

Wow,

Other montrealers on FTR.... Wicked.

I thought I was the only one.

my Contribution, up about 3k in past 6 months, playing .50/1 NL and some 25+2 (27$) SNG's.

*edited (thanks for delicately pointing out an oversight bears lol)

I consider myself a casual player (3-4k hands a week), but I want to play more this year.

Cheers.

50/100 nl? did u mean 100nl? and wtf are 25+2 sngs?

Originally Posted by bearcats05

50/100 nl? did u mean 100nl? and wtf are 25+2 sngs?

he probably means some 50 and some 100nl. $27 sngs are turbos on stars.

i am up slightly. trying to make some cash at MTT''s atm, whichg is a topic in this forum incidently