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    got some hands i want to check out.

    opener is 18/14/5% 3bet over 194. he seems relatively competent and aggressive. only note is that he opened from the CO, then 4b/folded to my SB 3b/5b AI. i can't think of any reason he would only min-raise UTG with a range of hands that has my AQo crushed.

    the guy who flats behind me is registering as 21/14 over 14 hands. no reads.

    BU is 20/13/0 over 14

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($26.44)
    UTG ($33.55)
    UTG+1 ($10)
    Hero (MP1) ($33.75)
    MP2 ($7.62)
    CO ($26.05)
    Button ($25)
    SB ($25)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, A
    UTG bets $0.50,

    I don't know wtf to make of this guy minraising UTG. i don't have a note that he can't size preflop raises properly, and he seems remotely competent. maybe a misclick. maybe he has UTG bet-sizing tells. lacking any idea what he's up to, i'll say his range is something like

    AJs+,AQo+,22+,KQs
    quick combos: AJs (3), AQs (2), AKs (3), AQo (7), AKo (9), 22-JJ (60), QQ (3), KK (6), AA (3). i want to discount the nut end of that because he only min-raised but i'll leave it in

    1 fold, Hero calls $0.50,

    seems standard to such a poorly sized open with the positional advantage, no habitual 3bettors behind me etc etc.

    MP2 calls $0.50,

    22-JJ(60), ATs+(11), ATo+(34), KTs+(11), KJo+(21), QTs+(6), QJo(9), JT(16), T9s-65s(20)

    the rest are irrelevant as the hand plays out.

    Flop: ($2.60) 8, 10, J (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets $2.10,

    his Cbet is 75%. i doubt he cbets too light though on such a wet board and into 4 (?) villains. although this flop does have like 70% of his range at least a gutterball to the nuts. range:
    AJs+, AQo+, 77+, KQs

    Hero calls $2.10,

    i decide to flat for a couple of reasons:
    - his cbet range appears strong, so my fold equity appears low
    - we're deep so my implied odds are good
    - i don't want to raise/be forced to fold by a 3b
    - i want to the dudes behind me to come in and make it multiway.

    MP2 raises to $7.12 (All-In)
    ,

    this dude's short as all hell and so can only really shove or fold here i think:
    77-JJ(21), AT+(39), KTs+(9), KJo+(18), QTs+(5), QJo(7), JT(9), T9s(3) , 98s(3) s

    2 folds
    , UTG calls $5.02,

    this is what really confuses me. wtf is this dude's flatting range? i really think sets are discounted, because he's still relatively deep vs me, and the board is pretty damn wet. i imagine he would be looking to get the money in ASAP with 88,TT,JJ. so that leaves:
    AJs+, AQo+, KQs. 99, QQ+. he may or may not have gutter/two overcard hands still in his range like AQ,AK.

    the total pot when he flats the AI is 7.12 + 7.12 + 2.10 + 2.6 = 18.94.
    and we have roughly 25 behind should i call. i'm not going to try to do any in-depth mathsy shit because frankly i'm too retarded to deal with sidepots, and the chance of having to contest the main pot 3way x amount of the time etc etc. basically, to shove, i'm risking 33 to win 19.
    33/33+19 = 63% required FE to breakeven in a vacuum. i have 25% equity against top set, so i doubt shoving is ever -EV (he obviously has more hands in is range than top set). flatting sucks because the pot becomes locked up, which basically renders any fold equity i may have had for turn + river dead, and means i have to rely on my 25-40% equity exclusively. so i decided to jam.

    Hero raises to $33.25 (All-In)
    , 1 fold

    Turn: ($23.96) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($23.96) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $23.96 | Rake: $1.19

    aaaaaaaaanyway turns out the guy behind me had JT. against that hand i have 32% equity. my contribution to the total pot was <32% so it was +EV from a results oriented sense. just wanted to go through that one because the different stack sizes and things kind of threw me off during the play of the hand. and i wasn't sure if i was just spewing through lack of a real idea of what UTG's flatting range was.
    Last edited by rpm; 03-24-2011 at 05:58 AM.

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