Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Quote Originally Posted by zook
After he calls I think the turn bet is close but draws are a big part of his range and he might even fold a weak ace? Maybe I just got lucky on this one, but was trying to make the point to consider bluffing when you can lay yourself a good price. Another situation that comes up a lot is double and triple barreling after 3 betting. Pot gets big, money left behind gets smaller, a shove doesn't have to work as often to be profitable.
Yeah I agree. In fact I pretty much feel like shoving the turn is mandatory if we raise the flop in this hand.
We gotta follow through more, right Irish!?

yah this is the kind of spot I'd shut down for sure. I just wouldn't expect him to be folding this turn enough honestly, to make it profitable.

I guess this depends on read. If I had ANY hand that I called on flop with value, I'd call this turn bet cause a million draws didn't get there. But obv its also possible I have a draw. The bad side to this hand is that I think a lot of donks call draws in this spot to your turn shove. The good side to this is that our hand is actually ahead of most of the draws.

Would you have done this if your hand was like 56 or something? I think we definitely need to do this with a hand that will be better than his drawing hands he'll often call with.