stats from penn and teller's Bullshit! episode on 12 step programs:
1) % of people that still go to AA after 12 months = 5%. that is basically the success rate.
2) % of people that quit drinking without AA = 5%.
Now, it is equal in number value, but when you take into account all the silly bullshit they make you do, it is surely -EV. i dont denounce non 12 step programs for drinking btw.
Also FWIW, i think that south park is incredibly on point on most, if not all, issues. they just dont get much credit for it because its a comedic show.



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