-.45 YPC? ROFL

[ensign_lee]

See signature below

[a500lbgorilla]

If only they had stats for every time Mario Williams gets embarrassed by over-running or getting shut down.


Both bottom of the league last year.

Saints (6-2)

Texans (3-5)

[Lukie]

To add to rilla's statement, the new head coach, new quarterback, healthy starting running back, vastly improved defense, an easy schedule (they played the browns), and having their city back have nothing to do with that football team's success.

[a500lbgorilla]

To add to rilla's statement, the new head coach, new quarterback, healthy starting running back, vastly improved defense, an easy schedule (they played the browns), and having their city back have nothing to do with that football team's success.

So you're saying that Houston's successes and failures ride souley on the health and talents of Williams?

Would the texans be worse off if they had a player on offense where every time he's on the field, the defense is forced to account for him. That has gone a logn way to help make stars out of a fading running back and their young WR (Colston, i dunno which round he was drafted in).

[mcatdog]

To add to rilla's statement, the new head coach, new quarterback, healthy starting running back, vastly improved defense, an easy schedule (they played the browns), and having their city back have nothing to do with that football team's success.

But everyone who plays the Saints has to, like, gameplan for Reggie Bush and stuff. His -.45 YPC, like, totally opens things up for Brees, McAllister, Horn, Colston, and the rest of the guys who are, ya know, actually helping the Saints win football games.

[bigspenda73]

Rilla,

Houston 2-6 not 3-5
Still bottom of the AFC South

Passing on Reggie wasn't the big mistake, the big mistake was not trading the pick and gaining another 1st rounder and another 2nd/3rd rounder. This team is bad in so many spots.

Also, you're not going to convince a coach who worked for a man who traded Clinton Portis that he needs to draft a running back at No. 1.

[WildBobAA]

Obviously Williams is better than Bush based on one game.


Obviously.

[kmind]

Look at the overall stats...I'd take Williams (even DeAngelo) anyday over Mr. Overrated.

GO WOLFPACK!

[drmcboy]

gg fanboi!!11!1

worst non Bengal draft pick ever, and even there it is close, many of their bad picks made sense but were cursed. Plus it sure would have sucked to sell all those tickets to people wanting to see Vince Young (is he starting, I missed it?).

[WildBobAA]

give it 5 years and then we'll see who had the better draft

[kmind]

deal

[drmcboy]

for a poker player, that is pretty lame. It's about EV, not prognostication.

[a500lbgorilla]

To add to rilla's statement, the new head coach, new quarterback, healthy starting running back, vastly improved defense, an easy schedule (they played the browns), and having their city back have nothing to do with that football team's success.

But everyone who plays the Saints has to, like, gameplan for Reggie Bush and stuff. His -.45 YPC, like, totally opens things up for Brees, McAllister, Horn, Colston, and the rest of the guys who are, ya know, actually helping the Saints win football games.

So they game-planned a shut him down. Did they shut down Brees, McAllister, Horn, Colston, and the rest of the guys who are, ya know, actually helping the Saints win? Im gonna go ahead and say no.

[bigred]

LETS GO RED SOX WOOOOO

[lolzzz_321]

Colston went late, like 6th round, the Texans actually passed on him too..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[ensign_lee]

Obviously Williams is better than Bush based on one game.


Obviously.

I'm basing it on you know...the season. The same season where 6th round draft pick Wali Lundy of the Houston Texans has more yardage, TDs, ypc...you know...like...everything more than Reggie Bush.

[ensign_lee]

Rilla,

Houston 2-6 not 3-5
Still bottom of the AFC South

Passing on Reggie wasn't the big mistake, the big mistake was not trading the pick and gaining another 1st rounder and another 2nd/3rd rounder. This team is bad in so many spots.

Also, you're not going to convince a coach who worked for a man who traded Clinton Portis that he needs to draft a running back at No. 1.

I hate it when people just assume you can trade away the 1st overall for a bundle of picks. NO! YOU CAN'T! You have to have a trading partner!

And the draft had a steep dropoff in talent after the 4th or 5th overall. Who were we going to trade with? The Jets weren't even wiling to give up their two firsts (which would have been a horrible trade valuewise for the Texans) for the #1 overall. Who the HELL were we supposed to trade with...exactly?

[ensign_lee]

gg fanboi!!11!1

worst non Bengal draft pick ever, and even there it is close, many of their bad picks made sense but were cursed. Plus it sure would have sucked to sell all those tickets to people wanting to see Vince Young (is he starting, I missed it?).

Since you know, Vince Young has yet to have over 50% completions in a game yet (or you know, in a career).

Oh: and David Carr? 70% completions, in teh top 3 QBs as far as stats goes. And don't even bitch about the fumbles; Vinec Young has an INT for every Carr fumble that was caused by a blindside because his tackle couldn't block the D-lineman worth shit.

{edited because I'm a moron and wrote the sentence wrong}

[drmcboy]

I actually hope you're right. The fact that you are still agonizing over it shows how bad the pick was for you poor Houston fans. Do you suppose Saints fans woke up wondering if they should have drafted Mario Williams?

[Lukie]

To add to rilla's statement, the new head coach, new quarterback, healthy starting running back, vastly improved defense, an easy schedule (they played the browns), and having their city back have nothing to do with that football team's success.

So you're saying that Houston's successes and failures ride souley on the health and talents of Williams?

Would the texans be worse off if they had a player on offense where every time he's on the field, the defense is forced to account for him. That has gone a logn way to help make stars out of a fading running back and their young WR (Colston, i dunno which round he was drafted in).

nah, I don't see how I said or even implied that. I think drafting Williams was a mistake by the texans, and that trading down or drafting reggie both would have been better options. Of course, I could easily be proved wrong down the road, and I certainly don't think it was as bad of a pick as some people make it out to be.

The jist of my comment is that it's absurd to think that #25 has turned the entire team and organization around. He has contributed as a receiver, sure, but it's not like he's carrying the team on his shoulders.

[Miffed22001]

when does the hockey season start?

[kmind]

I agree with Lukie. People (especially the media) are making it out as a horrible pick. Like I have said before, I think Mario has made a bigger contribution thus far. I guess we'll see down the road if Bush is not only better, but A LOT better as most seem to think.

[ensign_lee]

I actually hope you're right. The fact that you are still agonizing over it shows how bad the pick was for you poor Houston fans. Do you suppose Saints fans woke up wondering if they should have drafted Mario Williams?

BullSHIT. The fact that I'm agonizing it has everything to do with how the Media (especially ESPN) glorified Bush and crucified the Texans for not taking him #1 overall.

[a500lbgorilla]

I actually hope you're right. The fact that you are still agonizing over it shows how bad the pick was for you poor Houston fans. Do you suppose Saints fans woke up wondering if they should have drafted Mario Williams?

BullSHIT. The fact that I'm agonizing it has everything to do with how the Media (especially ESPN) glorified Bush and crucified the Texans for not taking him #1 overall.

Is he not the expensive corner stone to one of the worst defenses in the league?

Bush is another cog in a revitalized offense.

[mcatdog]

Texans defense has actually been pretty good lately and Mario Williams improving has been a big factor in that, as well as their other rookie DeMeco Ryans. In the last 3 games their defense has given up 7 points, 14 points, and 14 points, and not a lot of yards either (they lost to Titans because the offense played like crap). They're not the same defense that was getting embarrassed earlier in the season.

[ensign_lee]

Texans defense has actually been pretty good lately and Mario Williams improving has been a big factor in that, as well as their other rookie DeMeco Ryans. In the last 3 games their defense has given up 7 points, 14 points, and 14 points, and not a lot of yards either (they lost to Titans because the offense played like crap). They're not the same defense that was getting embarrassed earlier in the season.

QFT.

4 sacks. Defense is finally getting used to playing the 4-3 as opposed to the 3-4 (hopefully)

[bigred]

omg, now i get ur avatar after this thread

[ensign_lee]

bwahaaaahaaaa.

Way to go Big Red.

First you wait YEARS before asking me about my old signature. Now, you wait MONTHS before figuring out my avatar.

[bigred]

Ur clearly not important enough for any urgency.

[BobbySalami]

omg, now i get ur avatar after this thread

Now I get your avater after bigred's comment.

[WildBobAA]

bump

reggie bush sucks lolz

[bigred]

bump

reggie bush sucks lolz

Yeah, what a bad day he had! So glad he wans't #1 pick!

[bigspenda73]

I knew this would get bumped...but I'm a Houston fan so I don't care cuz we won tonight.

[WildBobAA]

I knew this would get bumped...but I'm a Houston fan so I don't care cuz we won tonight.

Yea, but you guys are losing to us (Lions) in the Troy Smith sweepstakes!

[lolzzz_321]

Is Troy Smith really going to be the number 1 pick?

[bigspenda73]

Calvin Johson will hopeully drop to the Texans around the 5th pick....

Brady Quinn will go first even tho he is so overrated...

[WildBobAA]

Meh, I guess I'm not really sure. I guess it could be him or Brady Quinn.

[mcatdog]

Is Troy Smith really going to be drafted in the first round

no

[WildBobAA]

You really think so?

[lolzzz_321]

I'm not sure he'll even play QB in the NFL

[badandy519]

Is Troy Smith really going to be drafted in the first round

no

If he gets picked in the first round, it definitely won't be as a quarterback. He's another Randel El/ Brad Smith type of guy. He'll probably end up moving to receiver / defensive back in the NFL.

[bigspenda73]

He's much better thanks those players. I like his arm and his decision making, he's a little short to play the position but I think he could make it. Kinda reminds me of McNabb.

[badandy519]

Kordell Stewart had an absolute cannon and was the same type of player.

[a500lbgorilla]

LOLZZZZ

EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHUT UP ABOUT THE TEXANS PICK (even thought I haven't heard shit about it since week 1)

ALL YALL HATERZ