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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukie View Post
    I always couldn't help but think that this Occam guy just didn't have a very good grasp of probability. 100*100 = 10*10*10*10, if you catch my draft.

    (adding nothing of value to the religion angle)
    Not really catching your drift. There could an infinite number of parallel universes. But we can't (atm) verify that. We can't disprove it either. So we use Occam's Razor and take the simplest explanation to be true. There is also some theory (I forgot the name, something french like Genie Méchant) that there is a mind-altering being living amongst us, that warps our perception in such a way that we can never perceive him. Can't disprove it. But no need to take heed of it either.

    Oh and on the subject of parallel universes (sorry to go off on a tangent), I read something interesting recently. Neil Degrasse Tyson said that his favorite theory for dark matter (dark matter is the placeholder name for the fact that there is way more gravity in the universe than can be accounted for by all known matter) is that there ARE parallel universes and that their gravity is leaking through to ours somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    There could an infinite number of parallel universes. But we can't (atm) verify that. We can't disprove it either.
    Who do you mean by "we"?
    An article from Scientific American in 2003 that talks about the existence of parallel universes.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Neil Degrasse Tyson said that his favorite theory for dark matter (dark matter is the placeholder name for the fact that there is way more gravity in the universe than can be accounted for by all known matter) is that there ARE parallel universes and that their gravity is leaking through to ours somehow.
    Having a favorite theory is a long way from believing something that is unobservable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Who do you mean by "we"?
    An article from Scientific American in 2003 that talks about the existence of parallel universes.
    We means us. You included.

    Show me the peer-reviewed Nature article that proves the existence of a multiverse.

    That proves it right in the same sense that Newton was right when his explanation of gravity was not disproved by disagreeing observations of the moons of saturn, but itself proved someone else's determination of the finite speed of light. (Romer)

    Show me the robust and predictive understanding of the multiverse, and then 'we' can agree jackvance is wrong when he says

    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    There could an infinite number of parallel universes. But we can't (atm) verify that. We can't disprove it either.
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