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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours View Post
    I used to think like you, but then I read that scientists believe that time started simultaneously with the big bang, which in turn means that the universe has been around for an infinite amount of time (or that there was never a time when the universe was completely without motion) and so it didn't need to be "started".

    I'm assuming the theory stems from the observation that mass/gravity seems to slow down time.
    I dont quite understand. Even if time started with the big bang, that must have also come from something. But if it didnt, then that is the source of everything that is, and would be the "god" i refer too.

    @Mojo: Rilla's thinkin what im thinking. Measurements are irrelevant. There is a huge difference between saying that the universe is deterministic and saying that the universe is predictable by us. We dont even need to go subatomic to show this really. Even taking the events of just a single person, its impossible to predict what theyre going to do at any one point. Their diet, fatigue, emotions, past experiences, health, genes, gases being expelled, there is just so much going on with even a single being that predicting them is immensely difficult (though this is probably doable, maybe). Now take a city though, and everything that has come before that, and then try and predict how each person would interact and how that would effect them in the future, and suddenly we have a problem that is far too massive to even begin to try and solve. We havent even begun to talk about it on a worldwide, or universal level, nor a microscopic one.

    But that doesnt change the domino theory i proposed.
    Last edited by JKDS; 02-02-2013 at 02:26 AM.

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