Anti-Capitalist Sentiment (with some morality)

[rpm]

let me rephrase: "i agree it is true in an economic game-theory sense, and also in reality because this is our current economic paradigm"...

that's kind of my point. you say we are commodities and so we ought understand how to best utilise that reality. but i'm saying "is never implies ought". especially if we are discussing the nature of something arbtirary. natural laws (ie gravity) are the only laws which we cannot break or bend (thus we can say they "are" this or that but we cannot say they "ought" be this or that). economic systems are arbitrary systems of laws and have changed and will continue to for the rest of time (ie they "are" in a certain state but can be changed if enough people think they "ought" to - they are subject to value-assessment). so, in your analogy, my position is exactly unlike rejecting the theory of gravity. because gravity and capitalism are apples and oranges

ps fwiw i'm playing somewhat of a devil's advocate here for the sake of curiosity and discussion. i used to hold strong positions on these issues, then i turned 18 or 19 and realised i was actually just opinionated and not educated. if anything i'm offering up the kind of shit i used to believe strongly as a lamb for the slaughter by the (more) educated and informed

[wufwugy]

economic systems are arbitrary systems of laws and have changed and will continue to for the rest of time

The rules that govern society are less easy to ascertain than physics, likely because the social sciences are not experimental, but they're no less objective rules. The nuances and iterations are varied just like how the nuances and iterations of gravity are varied. We don't look at Jupiter and declare it unique because it's unlike a lot of other things related to gravity because we understand gravity well enough that we see through this. Likewise, we shouldn't treat the social sciences as arbitrary, but instead acknowledge what we don't know is due to limitations of current knowledge.

Supply and demand is a very real thing. We can't disobey it yet still expect the benefits of it. The only known examples in the history of human civilization of prosperity for the masses includes supply and demand. This strikes me as very not arbitrary. Economic theory isn't guesswork, and if we change from capitalism to socialism, we can't just change our figures and achieve desired results