Anti-Capitalist Sentiment (with some morality)

[rpm]

It seems we're not using the same definition for "utilitarian". I'm going with Google's: "designed to be useful or practical rather than attractive." This looks to me to be what these companies are doing. Not exclusively, but practical at least from a perspective. I guess I don't want to get hung up on the word then

As for your points, capitalism doesn't account for externalities well at all. But neither does morality. Things like environmental destruction don't have an answer yet.

Also, all the outsourcing that Americans lament is making the world a better place than it would be without the outsourcing. It's a tough pill to swallow, but true

Also, about "my rationale", I'm not anti-regulation or anti-welfare. They're both necessary for certain things in certain ways, but that doesn't mean that they too can't be abused

Also, (I keep saying also), as poker players, we should be wary of being results oriented. I mean this in that socialism is results oriented. Socialism is like if you took welfarism and made it the most fundamental aspect of the economy. This wouldn't work because it requires resources already in existence. That's where capitalism comes in. Capitalism is what creates more resources, socialism doesn't. I believe in capitalism and welfarism because they provide for sound economic resource construction as well as providing for the welfare of those who need it. But socialism doesn't do this because it doesn't create the resources in the first place. It just assumes that the need for resources will be enough for them to be distributed

hmm i guess i was referring to number 2 on the google definition list of "utilitarian": "relating to or adhering to the doctrine of utilitarianism". of course whether or not that doctrine is worth a pinch of shit is up for debate, but that's what i was referring to, and i think it's one of the more logically-sound groups of ideas if one values co-operation within our species (which seems like it will be necessary for our continued existence in the face of the environmental challenges we face).

i like your points about production and distribution of wealth/resources in capitalist vs socialist economies, that's as succinctly as i've heard that "debate" put, and i agree with your points about the holes in socialist theory/practice. (one more time for clarification, i don't and have never accepted the doctrines of socialism or any of it's children - in that sense i am completely guilty of criticising the food yet bringing nothing to the table. but, you know, if you have a belief the food you're being provided could well be poison.... it's often wise to try to discuss alternatives)

[ISillyDurrrAK]

1. Welcome to Ukraine there are a lot of people who earn that much and don't wanna lynch the government, lol.

And all this crap is coz in 1917 there was a lot of anti-capitalist sentiment.