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    How do you make the logical leap from "there should be equal treatment under the law" to "people who cost far more to insure should nevertheless pay the same low price as lower risk insurees?" And since when is equality = giving shit to people who don't have enough shit? Welfare is a completely separate issue to equality under the law and should be treated as such. I have no problem with a position that is in favor of welfare, but with citing equal treatment under the law as the reason.

    The ACA should have just been medicare for all and that be the end of it. Trying to impose price controls on an entire industry was a terrible play. Keep your welfare separate from your markets, IMO.
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    How do you make the logical leap from "there should be equal treatment under the law" to "people who cost far more to insure should nevertheless pay the same low price as lower risk insurees?" And since when is equality = giving shit to people who don't have enough shit? Welfare is a completely separate issue to equality under the law and should be treated as such. I have no problem with a position that is in favor of welfare, but with citing equal treatment under the law as the reason.

    The ACA should have just been medicare for all and that be the end of it. Trying to impose price controls on an entire industry was a terrible play. Keep your welfare separate from your markets, IMO.
    I was trying to give perspective for why it's reasonable to claim that discrimination against the sexes for healthcare is akin to the other sorts of discrimination we consider wrong. There are all sorts of price controls embedded into treating race and religion the way we do, and we should apply the same logic to the other areas that we consider equally important to protect: sex, gender, sexual orientation.

    Overall, these sorts of price controls have marginal effects. It's ones like rent controls that have substantial effects. I partially agree that the ACA should have just been Medicare for all, but if we're going in a market-oriented direction, the ACA is fantastic. It does everything it can to let the markets work while guaranteeing access for all. In a Medicare for all scenario, most private industry would get knocked out of competition, but the ACA basically gives private industry the ability to make the best of it.

    Besides, if the logic is that women cost more for healthcare so they should be charged more, we should look at why they cost more. It involves a bunch of stuff they do for men or that men benefit from. So if we charge women more then we're just subsidizing the social status of men. If the markets can't account for this, then it should be okay for the government to guarantee that these sorts of discrimination are illegal

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