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    If people are born with some amount of logic though, then it DOESN'T have to be learned. Perhaps this is me being dense though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    If people are born with some amount of logic though, then it DOESN'T have to be learned. Perhaps this is me being dense though.
    But it's not logic, it's just something that could become logic, protologic. I'm thinking of a time where we were asked what would happen if a ball attached to a thread was spinning around a table in a circle. What would happen if you cut the string? My initial guess was that it would shoot out in a wide curve, but of course the answer is that it goes in a straight line. There are countless times where you have to realize that your intuition is wrong and needs to be changed. Logic is one of those things where you can't be half right. If it's not proper logic, it's not logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    But it's not logic, it's just something that could become logic, protologic.
    If even that. proto-reason seems more appropriate.

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    I'm thinking of a time where we were asked what would happen if a ball attached to a thread was spinning around a table in a circle. What would happen if you cut the string? My initial guess was that it would shoot out in a wide curve, but of course the answer is that it goes in a straight line. There are countless times where you have to realize that your intuition is wrong and needs to be changed.
    I don't see what this example has to do with logic. It has to do with background knowledge and predicting an outcome. This is physics, not logic. At most, this is a test of reasoning skills, assuming that the guesser has enough of knowledge of the laws of motion to even reason out the correct answer.

    What does this have to do with evaluating consistency of claims made by a set of statements?

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Logic is one of those things where you can't be half right. If it's not proper logic, it's not logic.
    I agree. Logic is built around the concepts of truth and falsehood, where "given" statements are true by assertion, and the goal is to determine if the conclusion statements are implied by those asserted givens.

    I am struggling to imagine how children might possess this capability, but I'm drawing a blank on any examples.

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