Bigred's Video Game Thread

[Jack Sawyer]

It's only seen that way by you and your vocal faction of digital crusaders. I've presented potential alternate motivations multiple times in this thread. I'll repeat of them in case you missed it....

The XP throttling only affected players attempting to maximize their personal gains, while minimizing game play. Specifically re-playing the same events in succession, or only playing for short sessions resulted in less rewards than someone who indulges in the full variety of the gameplay for longer periods of time. In other words, the company gave preferential treatment to its better customers.

The only way the throttling would impact you, is if you're actively trying to exploit the XP system for maximum gains (ie farming the shortest and easiest tasks). I can totally see why the developers would frown upon that since it's a lot better for their gaming community if you participate in other stuff.

Maybe they did it cause it made the game BETTER for everyone except the people who were only trying to be dicks in the first place.

So, you telling me I should play the game the way you want me to, and if I don't I'm a dick?

A very easy way to stop this exploit would be to DISPLAY THE CORRECT EARNING VALUES ON THE FUCKING SCREEN. Oh shit, turns out they didn't until the outcry. So, ... did they actually want you to do this by deceiving you into thinking this was the best way to XP grind? Did the actually want you to "try to be dicks in the first place"?

And then they increased the prices on everything. Hmmmm, so it only affected those who "played like assholes"? What about the others, who will be affected by the raised prices?

By your own logic, does this not affect everybody, as the fix does affect everybody and not just who "attempted to maximize their personal gains, while minimizing game play"?

Paywalls, grindwalls, those are things Banana

Things that make you go ummmm ...

Again, you don't know the motivation. And not everyone was lied to. The only people who were lied to, were the people playing like ass-holes.

Things that make you LOL

Why put it in the game if you don't want me to play it? I assume that I can play any game I bought any way I please. Or do I have to play it the way you want/woudl like me to, Banana?

So you don't buy milk?

Are you still comparing brake fluid and pumpkin? Wasn't it you who said we had a governmental regulatory body that handled this shit?

This one example marks one of the first times that a AAA game has outright lied to its customer base.

Wasn't one of the first lines in the video you linked about how Mr. Jimquisition is all pissy about the constant "bullshit" in games? How is this a "first" then?

I assume this refers to the DLC "lockout" problem? Again....WHO CARES? And I don't mean that rhetorically. I want you to actually find a person, or at least describe a plausible type of person who would be negatively impacted by this? The only thing that was pulled back from the original game were a handful of extremely high-level REPLAYS that yielded cosmetic rewards. So what? That only impacts you if...


1) You enjoy the game enough to delve deeply into it's post game content.
2) You enjoy the game enough to seek out every single achievement and loot reward available
3) You enjoy the game enough to care about rewards whose benefits are solely cosmetic.
4) However, you DON'T enjoy the game enough to spend an extra $20 for an expansion pack that offers a FUCKTON more of the things you love in #1-#3.
5) And you were late to the party and haven't yet had enough time to exhaust this game before the pinnacle end-game content was locked out.

If you're that person. You are fucked. You have a right to be disappointed. However, for anyone who fails to meet even one of the above criteria....you're fine.

Oh, that one again

No, I don't. I bought every single DLC there was to buy for Mass Effect 2 & 3 for instance. Didn't buy the one DLC 1 had though.

https://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerf...97#post2280897

What exactly is your argument, Banana? Because you are somehow making even less sense than before. And that is saying something.

Only if you play like a douchebag

Sure, and then why doesn't the game just tell you that you are earning less? Even the much maligned battlefront II simply told you when you hit the cap. Again, why put it in the game if you don't want me to play it? I assume that I can play any game I have any way I please. Or do I have to play it the way you want me to, Banana?

Oh, and THIS

Last weekend, we disabled a scaling mechanism that adjusted XP gains up and down without reflecting those adjustments in the UI. Our intention was to keep slower-paced activities as rewarding as high intensity grinding without confusing variations in displayed XP values, but the silent nature of the mechanic betrayed the expectation of transparency that you have for Destiny 2.

We were able to disable the system with a server-side change, but a new solution is now needed to rebalance XP in Destiny 2. We have begun that work, and will continue to provide updates to you about timelines and specifics. The values coded into our website API are being updated today (and may already have been as you read this post) to reflect the removal of this scaling mechanism. In a future update, we intend to link these internal and display-only values together for greater consistency, and to ensure that when changes are made they are accurately reflected everywhere we report them.

We already see that the newly adjusted 160K XP per level value means that leveling is too slow for some activities, and we have begun the process of collecting data and recalibrating XP earn rates to improve them as quickly as possible.

XP boosts, including both consumable items and passive bonuses like the Well Rested 300% bonus, were always applied after this system and never resulted in early slowing of XP. They should be unchanged by the disabling of this system and will continue to provide their stated increase in XP gain.

Expect to see a lot of conversation from our team on this front, as XP rewards are updated and brought back in-line with player expectations.

It's a more customer-friendly way of saying "don't be a douchebag"

So customer friendly they have to apologize, backtrack and face the music for it

Dude....this is the most tragically ironic thing you've EVER posted. Here you are, shedding a tear for the reckless youth that squandered their paper route money and stole dad's credit card to fund an online obsession. Here you are shaking your head at the all too common story of and exploited young mind.

Here you are, saying these things, on a site dedicated to online poker.

If a person could be killed by irony...I'd be stone cold dead right now.

Yes, poker players tend to exhibit less empathy than the general populace

But still, life ≠ a poker game despite what you may have been led to believe. Does being a poker player I have to not employ any kind of morals for any decision in my life?

Says YOU!! Maybe in the grand scheme of things, it's not worse. For the last time...economics do not cowtow to your whiny self-indulgent preferences!! A market exists for this type of monetization practice.....so who are you to judge it? People will pay what they want to pay for the things they want to have. If they can't get the things they want for the price they want, they won't buy it. Period. And the market will decide what is right or wrong.

Also, as I've pointed out you exhaustively, the industry has LOST revenue streams that it used to have. So get used to the idea of being introduced to some innovative monetization strategies now and then. Not all of them will be gleaming examples of expert commerce. There may be some bumps in the road, but it should be left to the market to smooth that out. Example: I'll bet my house that EA's next Star Wars game will be drastically changed from this latest installation.

Ugh. Your "lost" revenue streams included cables and EGM somehow. Cables could only at most benefit first parties, but it was all standards. How many Activision/EA/Ubisoft branded HDMI cables have you seen around? Saying EGM was a benefiting the games industry was akin to Top Gear being a part of Mercedes Benz somehow.

Ugh...this reeks of entitlement. Why is the game "broken"?

You clearly didn't see the video in the post you quoted. Nor ever played GTA Online. There is a whole community dedicated to GTA Glitches, just as a FYI

Prove this

You increase the grind for something you can instead buy immediately for money. Prove me wrong.

Hang on.....give me a second.....I rolled my eyes too hard

Are you talking about the young-uns who don't have credit cards and have no way to participate in this exploitative microtransaction market? What's passing through them?

If you're talking about young, but old enough to have a credit card, then you're talking about adults. And adults can make their own decisions about what to buy.

The dude, in the video you apparently did watch, was 13 years old when he started his spending spree. I wonder how he did this? As in, I'm genuinely curious

So your limited investment has a limited return!!!??? Holy shit!! That's....just.....unimaginable!!!!!

Then I play with my limited investment and then I back the fuck off. Why the underhanded tactics to squeeze more money from me? Again, just so we skip your next bullshit argument

No, I don't. I bought every single DLC there was to buy for Mass Effect 2 & 3 for instance. Didn't buy the one DLC 1 had though.

https://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerf...97#post2280897

Keep trolling. I'm done w/ your entertainment. Enjoy your game, as I told you 3 times now