blackjack card counting

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I believe in Atlantice City they can't make you leave if they suspect counting, but they can shuffle more often. In Vegas, they can ban you for counting or suspected counting.

My understanding is that the casinos (and restaurants, bars, grocery stores, or any other business) reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, which is perfectly legal as long as they do not discriminate by race, gender, religion, disability, etc. They are not required to give any reason why they are refusing you service, and they don't give you one when they ask you to leave. They all have a standard script that they read to people to make sure they will not get sued.. They do not have to suspect you of card counting.

I'm also told that the big casinos share information and basically maintain a blacklist of suspected card counters. If they recognize you, then as soon as you walk in the door, they will ask you to leave and they will not deal to you.

I don't see how the Atlantic City casinos would be not allowed to do this, unless they passed a special law that says the casinos must deal to everyone.

unless it's changed, the deal with atlantic city is a that court case ruled in favor a of the player, disallowing banning of suspected card counters. HOWEVER, if they think you are counting, you get the special treatment which consists of a shuffle after every deal (plus the stink-eye from the pit boss and maybe a scary looking guy).

in vegas, one of two things happens. you are either just asked to leave, end of story. or, you are officially "banned" and get the speech which basically says that if you come back, you are guilty of trespassing and will be removed and charged accordingly.

what i don't have a good feel for is if you sit down at a $5 table, keep your biggest bet under $20, be subtle when changing betting levels and (assuming good cards with good counts) grind out under $300 over the course of a few hours, are you really worth their trouble? according to some i've talked to, if you stay under $50 bets, they don't pay too much attention.