Wuf, this one kida nails it:
08-02-2016 05:25 PM
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Wuf, this one kida nails it: | |
Last edited by rong; 08-02-2016 at 05:28 PM.
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08-02-2016 06:15 PM
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The revelation is that Farage is just like all the other politicians, in that he distorts facts to suit his agenda. | |
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08-02-2016 06:23 PM
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08-02-2016 07:56 PM
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Ads saying instead of sending 350M to the EU it should be spent at home therefore vote to not send it to the EU is not a lie. That video shows bias indeed, and the bias is from the host, who is clearly upset that Leave won, uses negative words to describe it, and assumes that people are going to wake up and see that her bias was right. |
08-02-2016 08:33 PM
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It is a lie though because that isn't the figure. Nor can the actual net figure be purely on the NHS, it isn't a one of line someone used that is being taken out of context it's a purposefully misleading comment printed on the side of a fucking bus. Then you have the fact that these politicians have been confronted about these misleading statements and flat out lied in defending them. |
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08-02-2016 08:50 PM
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The FTSE 250 is about where it was before the vote whilst the pound is down 9-10% on it's value. I think that's quite a drop. |
08-02-2016 09:06 PM
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It certainly is misleading, but also par for the course. If a politician didn't say that the vote means that something that has written in it that 350MM will go to NHS has passed, I'm not sure I want to call it a lie. |
08-02-2016 09:12 PM
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I haven't looked lately into why it has dropped. Hopefully it staying down is due to the BoE expanding policy, but I don't keep up enough to know if that happened. Analyzing this well would take much more than I have (and even more than most econ phds have), but on the surface it seems to largely reflect uncertainty. |
08-02-2016 09:38 PM
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Where do you get that established media favour staying in? The split in newspaper backing was fairly even although the big papers mostly backed leave. The winning side is always going to face more of a grilling in a situation like this especially when it causes turmoil because it sells. Remember the coverage went something like right leave campaigners what's the plan? Erm ohh shit we don't know but probably not any of the shit we actually said. Fairly acceptable they get some flack coming their way. |
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08-02-2016 09:53 PM
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My perception of the media as a whole on this could be wrong. I watched Sky and something else and didn't touch any papers. My impression from the US media landscape is that it's pretty anti-Brexit. It's basically run by the DNC/Clintons. Excluding Fox ofc. |
08-02-2016 10:30 PM
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Sky is run by the Murdochs who backed leaving. They own a huge chunk of the news in the UK too their biggest paper backed leave whilst their smaller paper backed remain. He has a habit of liking to make out he always picked the winning result. |
08-03-2016 12:15 AM
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08-04-2016 09:09 PM
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08-05-2016 04:22 AM
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08-05-2016 04:23 AM
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08-05-2016 04:34 AM
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08-05-2016 04:42 AM
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Last edited by OngBonga; 08-05-2016 at 04:45 AM. | |
08-05-2016 04:48 AM
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So can anyone tell me why Bob Geldof is so outrageously rich? I'm not sure how many copies of I Don't Like Mondays one needs to sell to buy a yacht. | |
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08-06-2016 06:57 PM
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about 3 million copies. | |
Last edited by chemist; 08-06-2016 at 07:05 PM. | |
08-07-2016 11:04 AM
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Sting had a string of global hits both in his band and solo, he still receives a shit load of royalties for the countless times his songs get used in adverts or played on the radio. | |
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08-07-2016 11:09 AM
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My apologies, they also had a number one hit with Rat Trap. | |
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08-07-2016 06:41 PM
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I wouldn't believe | |
08-09-2016 04:25 AM
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08-09-2016 08:14 AM
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Survivor is good entertainment, IMO. | |
08-23-2016 09:05 AM
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Wonder how many of the remainers this applies to? | |
08-25-2016 09:23 AM
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unsubscribing from ask a monkey thread, due to questionable opinions. | |
08-25-2016 09:30 AM
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08-25-2016 10:44 AM
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08-25-2016 11:09 AM
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08-25-2016 11:24 AM
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08-25-2016 02:58 PM
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Let's have a long drawn out argument about how me getting a job won't make the slightest bit of difference to any tax you might or might not pay. Let's also talk about how I'll go without weed for a day to pay for his pressie in a pathetic effort to make me look somehow good. | |
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08-25-2016 03:14 PM
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The mind is wonderful at rationalizing anything. |
08-25-2016 03:27 PM
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08-25-2016 04:49 PM
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Well, when he thanks me for the present, which my Brother will insist he does, I'll be sure to say loudly "don't thank me, thank the taxpayer". | |
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08-25-2016 04:58 PM
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It's backed up by our agreement that it's worth something. Just like everything of value ever. It's only worth something if we both agree it's worth something. If you say it's worth something and I say it isn't... you still can't trade it to me for anything I value. | |
08-25-2016 05:02 PM
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08-25-2016 05:07 PM
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08-25-2016 06:20 PM
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08-25-2016 06:34 PM
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08-25-2016 06:36 PM
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Uncle Nigel did a bang up job at the Trump rally yesterday. |
08-25-2016 06:47 PM
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The degree to which your point is correct is that humans don't have the technology to create more gold the same way we do more electronic digits or paper. Regardless, this doesn't provide any theoretical difference regarding how currencies function. |
08-25-2016 07:01 PM
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Same for the dollars, bro. Dollars are real things, of which a non-infinite amount exist. | |
08-25-2016 07:21 PM
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Due to the nature of gold being naturally scarce and difficult to manipulate supply, it became the currency standard. That doesn't make it anywhere close to optimal. Gold is very unstable. Fiat money in theory can be made much more stable. |
08-25-2016 07:28 PM
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08-25-2016 07:35 PM
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The gov't flooding the market with dollars incites the holders of dollars to value them less, sure. It's still everyone's rational choice to realize that their dollars are worth less, and to react accordingly. | |
08-25-2016 07:43 PM
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Note that just adding more money to the supply of money doesn't cause inflation. If the BoE adds a trillion pounds to the supply of pounds, that doesn't mean a trillion has been added to the denominator of the money active in the economy. The demand for that money has to also be there. And if that were to happen, the increase in money supply would be good. |
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08-25-2016 07:48 PM
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Maybe what happened in Brexit can illustrate part in principle. |
08-25-2016 07:54 PM
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I'd like to add that real supply shocks probably can't be defeated theoretically until we have quantum generators. Regardless, the best thing that we know to do to thwart real supply shocks is deregulation. Example, in a highly regulated energy industry, there are few alternatives and they're expensive. This makes a shock more likely for many reasons, and it makes it harder to use substitute energy sources to rebound. |
08-25-2016 08:00 PM
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The thing is that we'd have just as many problems (more, probably) under a gold-backed money monopolist. |
08-25-2016 09:50 PM
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08-25-2016 10:02 PM
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My bad. The phrase is kinda nonsensical, isn't it? It's more or less the phrase given to describe a theoretical future technology of a device that, on demand, generates a product by manipulating particles. For example, but hydrogen and oxygen into this machine and tell it to make water and voila! It's an intensely futuristic idea, and is kinda my go-to "hey look civilization is now post-scarcity since technology is so advanced that it can manage nature on a quantum level with a consumer product!" |
08-25-2016 10:05 PM
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The phrase is pretty terrible actually. I should have said something along the lines of "a futuristic device that generates material from particles". |
08-26-2016 08:29 AM
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"nuclear manipulation of matter" might be a better term. | |
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08-26-2016 08:33 AM
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I mean the sun takes hydrogen and turns it into helium, so maybe it's possible, in theory, to take carbon or whatever, and turn it into gold, by means of fusion. Of course, such technology is ludicrous, it's beyond sci-fi. I'm also unconvinced about the economic viability of creating, manipulating and controlling solar conditions to create a bit of gold. | |
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08-26-2016 08:35 AM
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mojo will come in now and tell us why it's really fucking stupid to think it's even theoretically viable. | |
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08-26-2016 08:36 AM
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You can quite literally turn lead into gold & it has quite literally been done. |
08-26-2016 08:47 AM
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Holy fuck so it's already theoretically possible without it being anywhere near economically viable. | |
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08-26-2016 08:57 AM
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08-26-2016 09:05 AM
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08-26-2016 09:36 AM
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08-26-2016 12:03 PM
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I pretty much learned to play chess on a chess computer, but then again I didn't have the luxury of the internet when I was a child. My nephew is 7, the same age I was when I had one. If he has access to better options, that's awesome. I don't mind if it doesn't get used if it's because he's found a better way to learn, I'll only consider it a waste if he simply loses interest in chess. | |
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11-06-2016 03:06 AM
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Normal process has turned into the most "left wing" decision of all time in UK politics. A process literally everyone thought would have to happen has been ruled by three judges of having to happen and there is a huge backlash. One of the more mental thing I have seen,. |
11-06-2016 05:33 AM
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England is where we learned law. I'm glad they're going through this process. | |
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11-06-2016 12:35 PM
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Of course there's a huge backlash. If the leave camp stay silent, then the media will just say that it demonstrates that the electorate have lost the appetite for Brexit. There has been so much noise from remainers after the referendum, the leavers have to make as much noise just to make sure that it's clear that we still want out, that we're not frightened of what hapens next. | |
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11-06-2016 07:13 PM
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It's politics mate, neither side is getting what they want. The coverage of the whole decision has been ridiculous on both sides. Full of nonsense. It should be debated in parliament and a decision reached. The idea that we should leave the EU on any terms is more idiotic than people saying we should just ignore the vote and stay, neither of which are close to reality. |
11-12-2016 08:50 PM
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What about someone coming up with an actual exit plan? | |
11-12-2016 09:19 PM
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If it were up to me, plan A would be to talk to Trump about trade agreements, seek to soften the blow in the event of difficulties with the EU, which I anticipate. That would give us the stronger hand when it comes to bargaining with the EU. I don't think we can officially do that until we actually trigger Article 50, so that means nothing more than informal talks for the immediate future. | |
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11-12-2016 09:28 PM
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Do we have any of these problems when it comes to dealing with the likes of USA? | |
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11-12-2016 09:45 PM
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It seems both China and India are interested in trade deals with the UK. | |
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11-12-2016 09:55 PM
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The EU does trade wrong. Yes, reducing tariffs is right, but, no, regulation is not. You want to reduce tariffs and deregulate. That's how you keep as a competitive as possible. |