Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
No, that's not why.
The why it doesn't count is because that's not the widespread message of the religion. It's a bad interpretation of the religion by a relatively small group who do not represent the entire religion.
This is one thing where the evidence is overwhelming and still there are people willing to dispute it (and argue it shouldn't be taught) because it contradicts their religious beliefs. If that isn't religion fucking up progress made by science I don't know what is.


Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
The assertion that religion causes people to act like savages is not compelling to me. People act like savages with and without religion.
Nobody is asserting that; that was the point of my question.

First, the argument was made that religion is a source or moral guidance for people who would otherwise be dicks.

The rebuttal to this was offered that religion is also a source of immorality for people who would otherwise not be dicks.

Your statement is fine, it's just that no-one is arguing with you and you keep repeating it as if they were.