COD: Modern Warfare 2

[Schya]

So we know you are getting it. What are you getting it for? PC/360/PS3?

Personally im getting it for xbox 360, pre ordered the MW2 themed 250gb xbox with game, 2 controllers, and a headset for $399! Great deal.

I have yet to make a new XBL gamertag as i sold all my old stuff and will be creating a new one. Name should be Schya or something along those lines. Everyone else's GT's / PSN names?

[stonyman]

I was leaning towards Xbox 360 but I can't ever start playing FPS games on a console. I was raised on a PC so I gotta play my FPS with mouse and keyboard. Another reason is in December a group of friends are going to get together for a LAN and this will be our game of choice.

[fjuanl]

none of the above

http://games.on.net/article/7188/Mod...for_PC_version

[Da GOAT]

ps3 for me, i preordered it not knowing if i was gonna buy. ill prob buy it tho im not playing ps3 much anymore.

[bigred]

ps3333333333

[oskar]

I've tried playing a shooter on a console once... second most frustrating thing I've ever done.
That and I don't know if I'm even interested in that. Shooters I've enjoyed playing always were innovative in some way: wolfenstein3d ldo, duke nuke 'em, - did not care for doom cuz it was just a fancy way too long version of wolfenstein imo, quake, quake arena - that was a whole new level of gameplay. battlefield 1942, the halflife series, portal, left4dead - absolutely love it.
I've tried far cry, crysis, warhead, far cry II... but they I get bored with them after 20 minutes.

what you can play on a console are 3rd person shooters, and there have been brilliant ones... the only reason I can imagine that you would even consider getting a first person shooter for a console is that you've never played one on a pc.

[Schya]

Oh no. i love FPS on PC, but all my friends have xbox 360 so... i dont wanna play alone

[a500lbgorilla]

imma wait for it on the wii

[Jack Sawyer]

none of the above

http://games.on.net/article/7188/Mod...for_PC_version

hahahahaha what the fuck

[Da GOAT]

^^^ wots that mean exactly for your online pc play

[boost]

^^^ wots that mean exactly for your online pc play

It means that instead of having a central server to host the game, the game is hosted across all players machines. This means that if one player is a lagfag then the entire game will suffer. With a dedicated server the laggy person might appear to do weird things like run in slow motion and then suddenly leap forward when his connection catches up, but all other non-laggy players will havea smooth ride.

I think not supporting mods is almost equally as bad. Without mods all you have is the content shipped with the game and anything the dev feels kind enough to release afterwards. This would appear to mean that not only are full on complete makeover mods not possible, but not even new maps. If you look at half-life, it was obviously worth the purchase price alone, but look how much value you get when you factor in a number of AAA community made mods, from full conversions to simple reskins of guns.

Beyond the initial lack of re-playability for this single game, not supporting mods has a ripple effect into the future of the industry. If quakeII, which spawned the mod team fortress, did not support mods then we wouldn't have seen team fortress 2, a fully funded studio made game. This is even more important nowadays when a AAA games development can cost millions and millions of dollars. Mod makers are doing it because they are passionate about their kick ass concept. However pro developers have to secure funding, which means they have to impress big wigs are publishing companies. These investors like sequels and proven concepts that have made butt loads of money. What they do not like is innovation, which is inherently risky. So my point is, if games stop supporting mods, we'll see a drastic slump in innovation in the industry. All we'll see is movie spin-offs and sequels in the double digits..

[oskar]

anyway... what you REALLY want is L4D2 - not MW2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSfsMJgypdw

[Galapogos]

did not care for doom cuz it was just a fancy way too long version of wolfenstein imo

wow, Doom was the game to me and I was a Wolfenstein fan originally too. I just don't think they're similar at all. Doom was a huge step forward in graphics, the game developed better as you played through it (levels didn't all feel the same), and it brought the most amazing multiplayer experience (for its time).

Craziness! I'm going to d/l right now. I haven't played it in so long. Of course if history of playing other old games means anything, I'm probably going to sign back on here to take back my whole post and not believe how such a shitty game used to have me so enthralled.

[BennyLaRue]

I've tried playing a shooter on a console once... second most frustrating thing I've ever done.
That and I don't know if I'm even interested in that. Shooters I've enjoyed playing always were innovative in some way: wolfenstein3d ldo, duke nuke 'em, - did not care for doom cuz it was just a fancy way too long version of wolfenstein imo, quake, quake arena - that was a whole new level of gameplay. battlefield 1942, the halflife series, portal, left4dead - absolutely love it.
I've tried far cry, crysis, warhead, far cry II... but they I get bored with them after 20 minutes.

I agree for the most part, except for the Far Cry comment. It was probably the best time I've had playing a shooter after Half Life.

Totally underrated FPS: No One Lives Forever

[boost]

I thought far cry was cool, but Ive realized that I just dont like jungle combat. Same with paintball, I prefer the mocked up city or the non descript obstacles to playing in the woods. Even so far cry def had some awesome moments.

Also Id love to get LFD2, but I dont think it would run well on my computer.

[Kits]

PC. Shooters on consoles? nah-ah.

Australia is so gay we get a censored version of L4D2. Apparently zombies are 'too life like' and I'm not adult enough to make my own decisions.

[oskar]

I did not know that you could play doom online... But my parents didn't have internet until the late 90's, so I couldn't have anyway.

Australia is so gay we get a censored version of L4D2. Apparently zombies are 'too life like' and I'm not adult enough to make my own decisions.

You can make your own decision to change your local settings in steam and it will dl the uncensored version when you update, or so I'm told
And it shouldn't be very resource intensive. You can turn the graphics down to HL2 levels.

[Irisheyes]

Pretty much the only FPS I've ever played is COD$ and only ever on consoles.

I can't really imagine what it'd be like on a PC, I mean, if you get sprayed on a console it's pretty hard to walk away from but with the accuracy of a mouse is it not just instant death for everyone as soon as they get spotted? Does that not take away some of the action a bit?

Also will have this on PS3. PSN name: pok3rplaya

[Galapogos]

I did not know that you could play doom online... But my parents didn't have internet until the late 90's, so I couldn't have anyway.

There wasn't really an internet like it is today around that time anyway. But some guy in my town set up a BBS that basically acted as a dedicated DOOM server.

[boost]

but with the accuracy of a mouse is it not just instant death for everyone as soon as they get spotted? Does that not take away some of the action a bit?

mouse+keyboard simply allows for better control, it doesnt make the game easy. What your saying is akin to asking "if we stopped pouring oil all over the race track, wouldnt all the race cars go too fast?"

[rong]

Although I agree PC's are good for FPS, how can anyone not mention James Bond Golden Eye on N64 when talking about great FPS on consoles, that game was legendary. I learnt all my FPS skills on it and those same skills still apply today.

In fact, I'd say, Golden Eye was the BEST SHOOTER EVER!!!!!!! (relatively of course, as obviously games improve over time)

[Monsieur_chat]

I played flag defense for the UK Quake 2 Capture The Flag champion clan.

[boost]

goldeneye was indeed awesome, but it was awesome as a novelty. It was cool cuz dorks like me could play multiplayer video games with their non dorky friends and have fun. But none the less it was a novelty, the controls were horrible and the level design was pretty rudimentary. And your claim that its the best fps of all time (when taking improved quality of games over time into consideration ofc) youre just downright wrong. Half-life was released only a year later.

[wufwugy]

Well I won't be getting this. Leaked game footage, fast-forward to 1:50. I cannot believe they made this

http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&...364_1256689255

[rong]

Well I won't be getting this. Leaked game footage, fast-forward to 1:50. I cannot believe they made this

http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&...364_1256689255

Are you seriously saying that you don't get a little excited at the thought of lobbing a grenade into that group of innocent civilians?

[stonyman]

Irisheyes-They do make adjustments for aiming from the console to the PC. PC usually have a smaller hit box then what you would see on a console since the mouse+keyboard is more accurate.

[BooG690]

Well I won't be getting this. Leaked game footage, fast-forward to 1:50. I cannot believe they made this

http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&...364_1256689255

OMG YES

[boost]

the video got taken down.

[Irisheyes]

what was it what was it???

[bigred]

am i owning all your ps3 faces

[rong]

what was it what was it???

It was beautiful man! You shudda seen it!

[aimee35]

i will be getting this game for sure i already have cod4 and cod5, my gamertag is Corporal Dawg

[wufwugy]

Here's one that hasn't been taken down yet. If you can't view it, just google 'modern warfare 2 airport'

http://news.spong.com/article/19606/...dern-Warfare-2

[wufwugy]

Well I won't be getting this. Leaked game footage, fast-forward to 1:50. I cannot believe they made this

http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&...364_1256689255

Are you seriously saying that you don't get a little excited at the thought of lobbing a grenade into that group of innocent civilians?

I personally do not. I find this kind of gameplay incredibly boring.

[rong]

Well I won't be getting this. Leaked game footage, fast-forward to 1:50. I cannot believe they made this

http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&...364_1256689255

Are you seriously saying that you don't get a little excited at the thought of lobbing a grenade into that group of innocent civilians?

I personally do not. I find this kind of gameplay incredibly boring.

But.....But...... they're innocent...... and unarmed!????

[bigred]

LOL

[a500lbgorilla]

Well I won't be getting this. Leaked game footage, fast-forward to 1:50. I cannot believe they made this

http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&...364_1256689255

Are you seriously saying that you don't get a little excited at the thought of lobbing a grenade into that group of innocent civilians?

I personally do not. I find this kind of gameplay incredibly boring.

But.....But...... they're innocent...... and unarmed!????

All I care to know is who they voted for or for whom they voted!

[a500lbgorilla]

Here's one that hasn't been taken down yet. If you can't view it, just google 'modern warfare 2 airport'

http://news.spong.com/article/19606/...dern-Warfare-2

alright, video games are pretty good at simulating reality. But, in simulation, everything should be allowed.

[Irisheyes]

Oh f that kill em all

[rong]

Agreed!

I hope the innocents will do things like freeze when you aim a gun at them, maybe shake a bit in fear, and hopefully react to exactly where you shoot them, so then, for example, you can get up close, aim a gun at them, they raise their hands in fear, and then you shoot them in the hand, and they react by holding an arm which now is missing a hand.

Ya know, that sort of stuff.

Besides which, on a more serious note, it's always seen as OK to play as some yank or Brit and chase after some middle eastern guys or russians and slaughter them by the boat load, maybe its only fair that some middle eastern kid can now play a game where they run into our country and kill somke of our folk!

[bigred]

Avoiding Beachside from now on...

[boost]

you dont like the grand theft auto series wuf?


I dont think video games should be sensored or anything, but the gameplay footage I saw looked pretty lame. Not cuz youre killing civilians but because it just looked boring.

[rong]

Agree with that. But it was only about 1 minute of civi killing, and the vid quality was awful. plus it looked like it was on easy, as there wan't much resistance.

[wufwugy]

you dont like the grand theft auto series wuf?

Not really. I've only played some, but I generally do not care for open ended campaigns and third person or pseudo-shooters. You're right that it does look very boring.

I dont think video games should be sensored or anything, but the gameplay footage I saw looked pretty lame. Not cuz youre killing civilians but because it just looked boring.

When it comes to censoring, my instinct is that this type of stuff is bad and should be eliminated, but from a rational and empirical perspective, I think that these kinds of things are only bad if they are able to play a role of brainwashing, which I don't think video games can account for. That is, however, debatable to a degree.

On top of that, these kinds of video games may actually perform as an outlet for sociopaths. It's very hard to find data on these things, but I think there is a very good argument for suggesting that being able to enact sociopathic desires into virtual reality could provide as a healthy outlet. On the flip side, however, there is data to suggest reinforcement.

[boost]

censorship is just such a slipper slope, yanoe?

And I generally dont like open ended gameplay either, but I think rockstar games does a really excellent job of polishing the hell out of it. So many open ended games just feel like virtual sandboxes, which for some reason seems to be a compliment in the industry. I can understand the draw of this, but at the same time I think it just makes for an empty lifeless world. Only games Ive played that have really pulled it off imo are in the GTA series. I hear good things about the elder scrolls series and the new fallout (old ones too for that matter.)

[rong]

Fallout 3 was pretty awesome imo, although it was a bit too empty for my liking, but still a good game.

I think I preferred Saints Row 2 to the latest GTA, its just more fun to play.

[wufwugy]

I'm not the biggest fan of Bethesda. I did play Morrowind a lot, which I did enjoy, but I've always had a problem with first person RPG. The problem is that this combines both RPG and FPS, and while I think it's possible to make something like that awesome, I do not think that anybody has done it so far. I just simply cannot play games like Fallout and Bioshock because the FPS is not good as Halo or CoD, and the RPG is not as good as some of my favorite old-school turn based stuff.

The best video game developers hands down is Blizzard. They lead the world in RTS, MMORPG, and hack n slash. I really wanna see them make an FPS series. Maybe Fnord can tell me why they haven't done that yet. They're easily the best at making games, I have no clue why they haven't tried to master the gigantic FPS market.

[boost]

what really turns me off of first person rpgs is that I dont get to see my avatar. I know this sounds dumb/nerdy but I really like the idea of seing my avatar with cool new gear and whatnot. On top of that I really like the widened viewing angle afforded by a 3rd person view. Hell, if when gta made the leap to 3d they went with a first person veiwpoint, I would have played the games, but I know I wouldnt have enjoyed them nearly as much.

[rong]

Aren't Blizzard now linked with Activision, who I think do, amongst other things, James Bond (pretty crap FPS) & DOOM and did the True Crime series, of which I think LA was pretty dam good and loads of fun to play.

[rong]

And CoD of course

[boost]

ID makes DOOM, but maybe activision publishes it?

and Im not really sure an fps is blizards cup of tea. FPS' are just a completely different genre than rts' and rpgs. You can see it in thier roots, the top down isometric view, the behind the scenes dice rolling, ect. Blizzard is really good at polishing this type of game up and making it easily accessible. Furthermore, what intellectual property are they going to use? Starcraft would make for a crappy fps imo, so theyd have to start from scratch which is a pretty big disservice to their fan base, but not only that its risky. Diablo, Warcraft, and Starcraft are all proven money in the bank, blizzard or not a new IP is risky and could really just flop. Im not saying they cant do it, but an FPS is just a world apart from their bread and butter.

[wufwugy]

That's a really good point about the isometric view and dice rolling. That is a common theme among their games.

As far as making a cool FPS, it's about the basics IMO. We don't want or need elaborate shit. Counterstrike is still extremely popular, and it's pretty old. A Bungie developer for Halo said it best when he stated that making a fun FPS is about designing 30 seconds of awesome play then repeating that with variation for the entire game. On top of that, it seems to me that Bungie has been reverting more to their original Halo style as time progresses because they're learning that that was the best. IMO, they went too far with H2, returned some with H3, and, even though I haven't played it, ODST *looks* like it's the original Halo 2.0

The main reason I mentioned Blizzard and FPS is because they know how to make the best game, and they've done it at least 4 times (WoW, SC, D2, WC3). The games are the most popular of their genres, and they maintain that title for many, many years. How many games can claim that they'll be around in 5 years time? Some series can, but Blizzard does it so well that it can be with one individual game

IMO, if they take their expertise about how to make an incredible game, and put it into FPS, they would be successful. If they're involved with Activision and Infinity Ward then that would make so much sense though since CoD4 pretty much reset the goalposts needed to be reached in order to pass as an FPS

[rong]

I think, not certain, that the actual company is Activision Blizzard, with both Blizzard & Activision being sibsidiary companies, so it would make sense for them to share expertise, and between them they could probably make one hell of an open world fantasy game with the option of reverting to first person for shooting scenes.

[wufwugy]

Somebody call ef nord

[boost]

blizzard is not in any way shape or form involved with the making of cod4 or infinity ward. They are both development houses. The apparent link is that they share the same publisher.. its just like two authors being published by the same company, doesnt mean they co-wrote each others books.

Also Id like to again point out that why blizzard aces these genres, this is not a very telling measure of how well they would do in the fps market. Hell they actually were pretty far in development with SC:GHOST (a third person shooter/stealth game set in the starcraft universe) and it got canned. I honestly think that they were simply having a hard time applying their skill set to this type of game.

Again, Im not saying they could never do it, but Im just saying it doesnt make sense for them to. They are a relatively small (esp if we ignore the massive eployee numbers dedicated to WoW crap) games studio. They are rocking away at a niche, a large niche but a niche nonetheless, that has and is serving them well. Theres just really no reason for them to branch out into unknown territory.

[BooG690]

How is this thread NOT bumped?

Eight hours and three minutes.

[rong]

only 2.45 over here.

Local HMB is staying open late and people are quesuing outside the store cos it will sell it at 12

[BooG690]

Same here. I'll be on line to buy such game.

PSN: BooG690

[Ragnar4]

Blizzard attempted a foray into the FPS realm with Starcraft: Ghost. As far as I know, it was never released because they couldn't get it "right"

[bikes]

i fucking preordered mine in big rapids and im stuck in dryden till tomorrow getting my passport from home. fuck.

[Schya]

wait boog you got it for PS3!!! you told me 360 like forever agoooo NOOOOOOOOO shit maybe ill have to get another copy

[triumphant cracker]

Here's one that hasn't been taken down yet. If you can't view it, just google 'modern warfare 2 airport'

http://news.spong.com/article/19606/...dern-Warfare-2

"We have removed the video of this scene following a request from Activision's lawyers regarding copyright infringement."

dammit...

[BooG690]

wait boog you got it for PS3!!! you told me 360 like forever agoooo NOOOOOOOOO shit maybe ill have to get another copy

Ummm...I don't even have 360. So you saying that I said I was getting it for 360 is an utter LIE!

[UG]

any good?

[JoeHaw]

Its good, yeah.

[b-rabbit]

win- got the game at midnight without preorder
beat - sliced my right index and middle fingers open at work last night. 7 stitches total. stings every time i pull the trigger

[BooG690]

You mean:

Beat - PS3's MW2 server is already down.

[bigred]

snow mobiling while dodging trees and pistoling enemy snowmobilers ftw

[BooG690]

Psht...killing innocent people ftw.

[Galapogos]

Psht...killing innocent people ftw.

No. They make video games so you don't have to do this!

[bigred]

Just beat it. Single player campaign was awesome but way tooo short.

[dsmrolla06]

I just went out and bought a new xbox last night because mine always freezes on start up just so I could get this game. Well worth it, I havent stopped playing since I got it.

[will641]

i'll be going to best buy tomorrow to pick it up. RelaxTakeItEZ is my ps3 tag.

[Pelion]

GODFUCKINGDAMNIT. IWNet makes me so angry. Tried to play a game with 2 friends today and it failed to join the 3 of us to anything for about 20 minutes. Over and over again it chucked 2 of us into a game and told the third that "the server is full". When the other 2 of us then decide to leave it counts as a loss btw >.<. Heres hoping they decide to allow dedicated servers and bring us law abiding PC owners out of the cesspool that is console standard FPS.

[bigred]

I am finally starting to get decent at team deathmatch now that I'm becoming familiar with some of the maps. No more 8/16's. Just finished with a 21/9 and a 18/5