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 Originally Posted by Fnord
At best, we can be a forum for those who want to look at poker seriously, improve, have an open mind, yet aggressivly debate. We do quite well at this.
I agree, and have something to add to this.
Poker players, no matter how good they are, how much they have played, read, won, etc.. ALL poker players have room for improvement. Nobody is so good that they cannot get any better.
When an obviously poor player posts something that is clearly wrong, the BEST thing you can do for that person is to bluntly say, this is wrong, this is a horrible play, you were lucky, that was a terrible suckout, you deserved to lose your stack, etc., then give them advice that they clearly need. If this offends the person, then they need to have thicker skin. You are just trying to help them. Just make sure you were doing it in a respectful manner.
Let's say an obviously bad player posts a HH if him holding AA, and limps behind 3 early position limpers. Reason being he "was scared everyone would fold if he raised." 3 others limp behind him. Flop comes down K68 rainbow. After a series of raises and reraises, hero loses his stack to someone holding 68o.
In response you say something like.. This was played terrible. You deserve to lose your stack here. When you are playing AA, your goal is to get as much money in the pot, but minimize the amount of players in the pot. Raise preflop to 5ishxBB. Ideally you want 1, maybe 2 callers. Bet the flop strong and analyze the situation if somebody plays back at you.
In truth, some people WOULD be offended by that kind of a response. If they don't realize they are a poor player (which they clearly are), and you insult the way they play the game, that could easily make them upset. If this happens, there is really nothing you can do about it. The best thing they can do is listen to you.
In my experience, people are much more apt to listen to somebody who is upfront, brutal, honest, whatever you want to call it. Sometimes the correct move is very clear. More advanced plays generally aren't. When somebody is doing something very wrong, somebody needs to be blunt with them and tell them the truth.
I've posted hand histories here where I've been unsure about a certain move and gotten some feedback that I played it poorly. Looking back on a couple of these (one in particular), I think to myself, "wtf was I thinking?" Sometimes it just takes an outside viewpoint to be able to pinpoint a problem that may not be so obvious to the person it involves.
One last note, barring very unusual circumstances, how can you argue against open-raising KQ from OTB or the CO?
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