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 Originally Posted by wufwugy
(1) people living sheltered lives and having no sense of the ways of the world. An example of this sort of thing can be seen in how many westerners embrace the proliferation of a movement whose goal is to subjugate, murder, and enslave those very westerners (Islamism). (2) The organizing principle behind Islamism and the state. They're both totalitarian and both have a featured history of near total eradication of culture and freedom.
1. Not true. Westerners don't exactly 'embrace' Islam. Nor is the goal of any mainstream form of Islam to 'subjugate, murder, and enslave' anyone.
You could argue 2) is true in the sense of countries like present-day Iran and Saudi Arabia. But neither of these countries has shown any interest in exporting their own brand of theocracy.
Also a distinction should be made between fucked up governments and the religion they've hijacked to provide themselves with legitimacy. Historically, Islam has been a much more tolerant religion than Christianity, and much less inclined to subjugation. Two examples are the Arab conquest of Persia and the Ottoman conquests of N. Africa, the Mid East, and the Balkans. In both cases the conquered peoples were allowed to keep their religion, culture and language.
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