The end of the world as we know it

[The Bean Counter]

I didn't think there was any debate on whether the globe has seen a period of increasing temperature. Isn't the debate around what's actually causing it and whether the past x number of years is statistically unusual?

I'm basing this on the chapter in Super Freakoninics though (recommended read), which will be out of date in terms of recent thinking/research.

[Savy]

I didn't think there was any debate on whether the globe has seen a period of increasing temperature. Isn't the debate around what's actually causing it and whether the past x number of years is statistically unusual?

I'm basing this on the chapter in Super Freakoninics though (recommended read), which will be out of date in terms of recent thinking/research.

It's one of those things where there is no real debate it's just people saying stupid shit because they read something once and actually reading science is hard so fuck that. It's all well and good trying to find holes in science, it's kind of the point, but when people say things then get told an answer and ignore it anyway I just lose interest.

Funny thing is science says one thing big industry has reason to want it to be false so spends a bit of money to discredit the idea and then it gets taken over by conspiracy theorists who back the big industry they otherwise think control the world because fuck having consistent coherent ideas about things.

[OngBonga]

I didn't think there was any debate on whether the globe has seen a period of increasing temperature. Isn't the debate around what's actually causing it and whether the past x number of years is statistically unusual?

There's a debate about anything when I'm around.

Honestly, I would say that if there has been a significant increase in temperature, of course humans are a key factor. We've cut down most of the trees, the primary means of soaking up CO2.

My problem with it is that our weather seems unaffected, if anything it's cooler than it was a decade ago, and I'm unaware of any catastrophic events where the sea has reclaimed low lying land. This has been ongoing now for around 20 years or so that I can recall... I'm sure there should be a Pacific Island or two lost by now.

It's not a question of the cause, not for me anyway. It's either not happening to any significant degree, or it is and we're to blame.

It's one of those things where there is no real debate it's just people saying stupid shit because they read something once and actually reading science is hard so fuck that. It's all well and good trying to find holes in science, it's kind of the point, but when people say things then get told an answer and ignore it anyway I just lose interest.

Funny thing is science says one thing big industry has reason to want it to be false so spends a bit of money to discredit the idea and then it gets taken over by conspiracy theorists who back the big industry they otherwise think control the world because fuck having consistent coherent ideas about things.

I think you take me too seriously. I get the impression you think this is a passionate subject for me. It's not. This isn't like 9/11, where I can never accept I'm wrong. I'm actually on the fence about this issue, I just have serious doubts and like to argue. I thought you'd have learned this about me by now.

I say stupid shit not because I read it somewhere and don't want to read real science. I say stupid shit either because I find it interesting to discuss, or because it amuses me.

If you have a problem with that, don't engage me in conversation. If you decide to discuss my stupid comments with me, then do so in good faith, instead of trying to slap me down for daring to have a different opinion than what you consider to be the norm.

[Savy]

I think you take me too seriously. I get the impression you think this is a passionate subject for me. It's not. This isn't like 9/11, where I can never accept I'm wrong. I'm actually on the fence about this issue, I just have serious doubts and like to argue. I thought you'd have learned this about me by now.

I say stupid shit not because I read it somewhere and don't want to read real science. I say stupid shit either because I find it interesting to discuss, or because it amuses me.

If you have a problem with that, don't engage me in conversation. If you decide to discuss my stupid comments with me, then do so in good faith, instead of trying to slap me down for daring to have a different opinion than what you consider to be the norm.

Not at all I don't care it's why I stopped responding to your posts. When I was younger I'd have had the conversation with you but now I'm just like meh I don't care what you believe and the conversation bores me so I'll bow out. You're correct I should work on not starting the conversation in the first place.

That post wasn't aimed at you either btw it was just my thoughts on it. Thought you do somewhat fall into that group from what I've read no one has specifically given you answers to your questions or gone in depth enough to correct your assertions.

My problem with it is that our weather seems unaffected, if anything it's cooler than it was a decade ago, and I'm unaware of any catastrophic events where the sea has reclaimed low lying land. This has been ongoing now for around 20 years or so that I can recall... I'm sure there should be a Pacific Island or two lost by now.

It's not a question of the cause, not for me anyway. It's either not happening to any significant degree, or it is and we're to blame.

Things like this for example, yes the weather has changed. You can say it hasn't but go look through weather records of this country. There are also lots of places around the globe that have changed as a result of the changing weather. Spend some time on google. You can't just dismiss things for the sake of it or go off your own anecdotal evidence.

The house I live in has been the same 21 degrees since I installed my new thermostat at good 10 years ago & people are trying to tell me it's getting hotter, idiots.