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    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    She should be able to protect herself just as any guy should also be able to protect themselves. There isn't a difference in gender. A threatening position is a threatening position for anyone. I only said she because I was talking about the example you gave.
    The point was that there really isn't a way for a female to protect herself in that situation without a gun. I'm open to other ideas that don't involve the female being at the mercy of the intruders or getting beat with her own weapon.

    And yes the same is more or less true of guys, although I tend to think they have slightly more recourse wrt self defense just on the grounds of being generally bigger and stronger, and probably have a little less to worry about in general (e.g. rape). He/she really wasn't meant to make a big difference. Did you even read what I wrote?

    Realistically though very few burglaries are kicking peoples doors down once again, the idea is to not get caught. In your proposed situation (man or woman) in America someone probably gets shot and seriously injured or dies. In Europe, probably not.
    I think you are exaggerating this a little bit. Either way though the risk should be on the burglar and not the home owner. That's just the way I see it. Does that mean I'm automatically going to shoot any stranger who walks into my place? No, of course not. Should I have the right to defend myself with a gun or other weapon against an intruder if I feel threatened? Yes I should have that right (and do.) I can't possibly see how anybody would feel differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukie View Post
    I think you are exaggerating this a little bit. Either way though the risk should be on the burglar and not the home owner. That's just the way I see it. Does that mean I'm automatically going to shoot any stranger who walks into my place? No, of course not. Should I have the right to defend myself with a gun or other weapon against an intruder if I feel threatened? Yes I should have that right (and do.) I can't possibly see how anybody would feel differently.
    The standard argument here is that as soon as you have a gun, your chances of getting shot (by the other person, not by yourself as in that bill burr bit) go markedly up rather than down.

    I'm not arguing to take away your right, even, but I would not use it myself (and consider myself as defenseless as a small girl + have a tight ass).

    I'd also say that while ImSavvy is maybe exaggerating somewhat, everyone on the other side of the argument seems equally unjustifiedly convinced that burglars in your house are definitely there to rape and kill you, rather than wanting to get stuff with as little conflict as possible.

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