Frequent Poster with Girl Problems

[OngBonga]

...had to google it.

Wholesale Ice queen costume Gothic faux costumes Indian queen sexy party costumes corset top, Free shipping, $31.8-43.24/Piece | DHgate

not sure if want this or red queen, now.

Oh god FAP FAP FAP FAP

Wasn't it you who said blondes weren't cute? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

[Chelle]

They aren't.

I'm talking about me wearing outfit. Not gross tan blonde chick.

[OngBonga]

Well since you're ginger, I'm in no doubt you'll look better than her in said outfit, but still, FAP FAP FUCKING FAP at that model.

Also, two words that prove you wrong... Debbie Harry.

Admittedly, 30 years ago, but still...

[bikes]

thx.


anyways @ OP. don't take advice from all the betas and pua's itt.

except jack. that man is a god among men. truth. 4 wimmenz? hell yeah.

[Chelle]

Meh. I don't think she's a real blonde.

[OngBonga]

Meh. I don't think she's a real blonde.

Well anyone who thinks you're cold as ice is talking shit. You could've made me cry by saying Debs wasn't beautiful, but you didn't go there.

Convincing a guy of this is the kind of thing that will keep him afraid of women forever. Reality is that girls don't care and some actually like the type.

ok so my first embarrassing sexual encounter basically involved me thinking I was in, and I probably was until I told her I was a virgin, at which point she accused me of making assumptions. Oops. So that was a disaster.

When I actually lost my virginity, I didn't tell her until after. Fortunately she had an orgasm so when I told her it was my first time she was like putty in my hands.

Don't tell her you're a virgin unless she tells you she's a virgin, or if she asks.

imo

[wufwugy]

ok so my first embarrassing sexual encounter basically involved me thinking I was in, and I probably was until I told her I was a virgin, at which point she accused me of making assumptions. Oops. So that was a disaster.

Exactly, it was about her. It's always about her. That's one of the main differences between men and women in relationships. To men, it's about her, how hot she is, how cool she is, etc; to women, it's also about her, how hot she feels, how cool she feels, etc.

In a big way, women don't care about the truth, they care about the presentation. Act confident and with style, and she will give a fat flying fuck about who's beneath the facade. Of course, most of them don't realize this about themselves and thus can't admit it. However, the dynamic does change when they're looking for a deep long term relationship. That's when how he presents himself isn't the only thing she ends up caring about.

[hartbraker]

That sucks! I'd be lost without my phone lol as sad as that sounds! Where do they live?

Really? Why is that? They currently live in XXXXXXX.

___

So is this still the get to know you phase? At what point do I start trying to get her to meet me in person and touch her a lot?

[OngBonga]

I want to nail a black woman.

[OngBonga]

This thread is better than WW.

[Chelle]

[bikes]

OP.

So you wanna go out, and you wanna get down. But you wanna get down for free? There's nothing really wrong with showing a little skin if you only wanna get in her head. Also there's nothing really wrong with giving a little in.

[Chelle]

Just tell her you're just going to put the tip in.

[bikes]

failing that, pull a ke$ha and take a dirty picture. just take a dirty picture. take a dirty picture for her.

[Chelle]

I said send a penis pic to him earlier.
That or a cute cat.

[hartbraker]

Cause I just love my phone way too much lol. That kinda sucks!

It's alright. I'm used to not seeing them that much.

Well that's good at least lol. I don't see my parents that foten either, mostly just cause I'm rarely ever home

Why are you never at home? I am an introvert so I find it hard to leave! Haha.

___

Holy shit, I probably shouldn't have said that. She's going to think I'm a total loser noob and she'll figure out I'm a virgin. What am I going to say when she's like you are a loser? Fuck, I think I really screwed this shit up.

[jyms]

Nobody here has guessed even close, and to OP

Cause I just love my phone way too much lol. That kinda sucks!

It's alright. I'm used to not seeing them that much.

Well that's good at least lol. I don't see my parents that foten either, mostly just cause I'm rarely ever home

Why are you never at home? I am an introvert so I find it hard to leave! Haha.

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said that. She's going to think I'm a total loser noob and she'll figure out I'm a virgin. What am I going to say when she's like you are a loser? Fuck, I think I really screwed this shit up.

Your over thinking and under producing. What you want here is results, not to keep talking so she never says no. Your trying to hard to not push and putting off the inevitable. Stop trying to wait for offers or openings and ask her out for a coffee. If she says no then move on. It's POF for christ sake, it literally is called "Plenty of fish" for a reason. Stop being afraid of the answer and ask the question.

[Shotglass]

Stop trying to wait for offers or openings and ask her out for a coffee. If she says no then move on. It's POF for christ sake, it literally is called "Plenty of fish" for a reason. Stop being afraid of the answer and ask the question.

^^^^Definitely this bold part.

[bikes]

when she says you're a loser tell her this.

ok well i'm gonna go talk to this person cause she's waaayyyy hotter than you anyway. talk to you never. bye.

[bikes]

[rong]

Wow, FTR kicked off good n propper.

So assuming this is legit, lets make a list of potential ops.

Ong is def in this list.

[rong]

Grunching btw

[bikes]

my money is on wufwugy or ongbonga.

[wufwugy]

my money is on wufwugy or ongbonga.

im going with lukie

[jackvance]

There is so much to say here, but practically, the best thing you can do is try to find some male friends that do well with women. Hang out with a player if possible. For one you will look cooler by association, but the most important thing is that you can emulate their mannerisms, and adapt their mindset about women. This will help you 100x more than any written advice.

[eugmac]

There is so much to say here, but practically, the best thing you can do is try to find some male friends that do well with women. Hang out with a player if possible. For one you will look cooler by association, but the most important thing is that you can emulate their mannerisms, and adapt their mindset about women. This will help you 100x more than any written advice.

I have to respectfully disagree and say imitating some other dude ain't gonna do shit for you, just keep it real IMHO. You're not him, you're you.

[rong]

There is so much to say here, but practically, the best thing you can do is try to find some male friends that do well with women. Hang out with a player if possible. For one you will look cooler by association, but the most important thing is that you can emulate their mannerisms, and adapt their mindset about women. This will help you 100x more than any written advice.

This is awful, awful, awful advice. Do not find a friend who's a player and get advice.

[bikes]

This is awful, awful, awful advice. Do not find a friend who's a player and get advice.

if the puas are wrong i don't want to be right obv.

[jackvance]

I have to respectfully disagree and say imitating some other dude ain't gonna do shit for you, just keep it real IMHO. You're not him, you're you.

I didn't say imitate, ofcourse you don't want to do that. It is on a way more subtle level, he will be able to see first hand how these more succesful people communicate with women which will help him more than anything the written word can do.

This is awful, awful, awful advice. Do not find a friend who's a player and get advice.

Trying to get advice would be stupid yes.

[Chelle]

Men fear me because I'm ginger, 4 ft 11, and bat-shit crazy.
They dunno what the fuck to expect.

HOW CAN SO MUCH CHAOS BE PACKED INSIDE SUCH A SMALL, INNOCENT LOOKING CREATURE-FEMALE-THING?!

[Chelle]

You know how you get a girl to like you?

.....roofies.

[bikes]

You know how you get a girl to like you?

.....roofies.

failing that obtain a british accent and red hair.

[Chelle]

failing that obtain a british accent and red hair.

I'm going to punch you in the face, azn.


ANYWAY.

I suggest if you suck at picking up girls go buy or download the book "The Tao of Badass". Pretty sure one of his main things is to look at a girls lips when she's talking, it makes her think about kissing/making out with you. It's true. I've used this move on a guy, it works for them too.

[rong]

You see, sex shouldn't be the objective, not yet. You'd be getting way too far ahead of yourself. Your initial objective should be not to be a Pussy. This sounds stupid and simple, but it is neither.

Initially, you need to find common ground. This doesn't have to be a shared interest. Although its fine if it is. But it can be something she is interested that you can become interested in, or vice versa. The point of this is to have a fall back topic when for when you are struggling for conversation, so don't use it all up too soon.

More will follow, I gotta train some folk in something dull for half hour.

[WillburForce]

Just do it the British way.
Avoid all eye contact until you drunk enough. Then take her round the back of Lidl and fuck her.
EZ game.

[baudib]

Against all odds, there's actually good advice in this thread.

I think the most important thing was don't be a pussy. Bikes' pic summed it up well. Girls who are cute know they are cute. Because every fucking loser around them 24 hours a day makes them realize they are cute. Even if they don't admit it to themselves, they know that they can pretty much bang every guy around because every guy makes it known in some way that they want to bang her.

Except for the guy who doesn't give a shit. The guy who is married, or has a hot girlfriend, or gets laid by 3 different chicks every night. "Yeah, hey, you're OK, you've got tits, great. Fuck you, I bang 20 girls hotter than you a month."

That guy makes her all wet and moist and she'll do anything she can to get his attention and bang him. That's why hot chicks end up banging married dudes or douchebags instead of a mirrion nice guys who won't even cum in her mouth.

I'm 100% sure every guy can verify this: When you go through periods of being single/alone/desperate and having a decent relationship, you get exponentially more attention and interest from random women when you are feeling happy about yourself, confident, etc.

[rong]

So, don't arrange a meet before you have figured out your fall back convo.

Other than that, chat to her online on at least 3 different days before suggesting a meet. During those 3 days just be yourself and chat about whatever it is you've been up to or has been going on and see if you can build up some sort of rapport. If you can't, you're fucked. On to the next one. Except there is no next one, because you're a Pussy. But we're attempting to fix that. But seriously, just be yourself, she's going to discover what you are sooner or later if this goes anywhere so no point hiding it. If you truly have nothing if interest to offer her in a 10 min chat then she isnt for you.

Assuming you somehow manage to hold an online conversation for a minimum of 10 minutes on 3 separate occasion (I know, big ask) you should have some vague idea of her interests, assuming you haven't spent the whole of that time fapping whilst imaging her holding your hand. So use this info about her to suggest a date doing something she is interested in. This could be a coffee, a drink(much better), a walk somewhere, a fetish club, a game of tennis, I dunno, anything, w/e you think she might be willing to do.

If you get that far, celebrate your win. Things may go down hill from here.

[Ash256]

Jack's advice about feeling good about your body by eating well, exercising, also solid. Basically whatever gets you to the point where you feel happy with yourself. Everything follows after that. Get to the point where you feel like you're so awesome, you don't need anybody.

Yep. Work on your fundamentals so that every week you feel stronger, healthier, better looking, funnier and better at conversation.

Get out of your comfort zone.

I was in a similar situation to OP a couple of years ago and was really frustrated. I decided to work on my fundamentals, so I got myself some new clothes, started going to the gym, and started talking to a lot of women, regardless of situation. After a few months I got confident enough that I just thought fuck it - if someone's attracted to me, great, if not, who cares, I feel fundamentally good enough about myself that I don't care either way. The way that things panned out, a hot girl who I'd been friends with for a few months made the first move on me. We're still together almost 18 months later. I'm not sure if I've ever been so scared as I was when it came to losing my virginity, but that was just another situation where I had to get out of my comfort zone. After a week of not-so-great sex, I finally felt comfortable and things have been awesome since then. She wasn't an isolated incident either, since then I've had quite a few offers from hot girls, which I've turned down because I'm a faithful man who loves his other half.

In your position you will probably stumble upon PUA stuff like Mystery Method, etc. This stuff is entirely unnecessary in the long term, and a lot of its proponents have a very unhealthy attitude towards women and human interaction.

So yeah, work on fundamentals and self-confidence and the rest really will fall into place. Nature wants you to find someone and fuck like rabbits, fall in love, or both, you just have to get yourself correct for that to happen.

For more specific advice look here, this post changed my life: My big post on getting better with women by - TwoRags.com

[bigred]

I dream about shotty a ton....mainly to lynch shotty

[Shotglass]

I dream about shotty a ton....mainly to lynch shotty

so many lulz

aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooo

[WillburForce]

I dream about shotty a ton....mainly to lynch shotty

I think suggesting OP gets involved with lynch fantasy sex on his first time might be a bit too far.

[Chelle]

fml, just searched for my birthday threads and one i made for spoon popped up in search. sadface.

anyway - shotty, you. me. naked. hospital bed. now.

[Shotglass]

anyway - shotty, you. me. naked. hospital bed. now.

you promise to tie me up?

Maybe hot, evil nurse will walk in and join us.....

[rong]

What happened to him? He don't come round these parts no more.

[Chelle]

IDK. I talk to him as little as possible. He's got his own life, new gf, w/e.

[dranger7070]

Fuck making connections.

Go to bar, preferably one with a dance floor. AVOID THE FUCKING DANCE FLOOR UNTIL AFTER 1am, VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

Go to the bar, order many many different kinds of beers and shots.

After you are good and fucked up, go to dance floor and look for the whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and just put your P on her A and idk, do something that people call dancing these days.

If after 5 minutes or so of doing this she doesn't ask you to go to her place, move to the next whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and repeat until you go home with some walrus.

[x] virginity lost

[Shotglass]

If after 5 minutes or so of doing this she doesn't ask you to go to her place, move to the next whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and repeat until you go home with some walrus.

[x] virginity lost

that's a man who has standards

[bikes]

Fuck making connections.

Go to bar, preferably one with a dance floor. AVOID THE FUCKING DANCE FLOOR UNTIL AFTER 1am, VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

Go to the bar, order many many different kinds of beers and shots.

After you are good and fucked up, go to dance floor and look for the whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and just put your P on her A and idk, do something that people call dancing these days.

If after 5 minutes or so of doing this she doesn't ask you to go to her place, move to the next whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and repeat until you go home with some walrus.

[x] virginity lost

[11:56am] [d0zer] I lul'd
[11:56am] [d0zer] o dat dranger
[11:56am] [d0zer] got it all figured out
[11:56am] [d0zer] truly an inspiration

[dranger7070]

Standards?

[kiwiMark]

why don't you hang out in irc and show us pics of your shrekbeasts any more dranger MISS YOU.

[dranger7070]

Advice From Mooj - YouTube

[dranger7070]

Because IRC doesn't work on the internet I use for some reason.

SHIT STAIN BALLS!

[Chelle]

www.thundercity.net

dranger.

[OngBonga]

omfg shotty and chelle. Can we get courtie on this too or is this asking too much?

I mean, I know I have nothing going for me at the moment being all bat-shit crazy inside,

Seriously, some men like the bat shit crazy thing. Don't mean to get internet weird on you, but you have quite a fucking lot going for you.

Even mst of the bikers that I hang out with act like they're intimidated by my tits.

Who the fuck is intimidated by tits?

[Chelle]

courtie is off limits in my book, anyone in a relationship or more, off limits. oh and anyone under 18 or over 35, everyone else is fair game.

[dranger7070]

Do not want old pussy. Older than 23 is off limits.

[OngBonga]

Do not want old pussy. Older than 23 is off limits.

You're missing out. Older women are dirtier. Much dirtier.

[Shotglass]

You're missing out. Older women are dirtier. Much dirtier.

we know what we want and we're not afraid to take it

[OngBonga]

No-one's off limits in my mind. Except men.
Obv people in relationships are off limits IRL.

Also, I can extend to past 40 if she's hot enough. Just look at Kylie Minogue. Holy fuck.

[dranger7070]

Exaggerating.

[Chelle]

...I'm 25, know what I want, and take it. Am not old. FOREVER YOUNG IMO.

[OngBonga]

I'm still in my 20's, even though I was born in '79.

[Shotglass]

29...

[OngBonga]

One thing I've never understood about women... what's so good about cats? All they do is leech off you, and then when they've been fed they fuck off for an eight hour walk around the neighbourhood, before coming back to where they have milk, food and a warm bed. And if you don't feed them at exactly the same time every day, they piss on your bed.

Cats belong outside. I'd rather have a monkey than a cat.

[kiwiMark]

I fucking love cats.

Also are you implying you wouldn't want a fucking monkey!?

[OngBonga]

I fucking love cats.

Also are you implying you wouldn't want a fucking monkey!?

I want a moneky. Cats are rubbish.

[bikes]

We all can't have dranger's standards of shrekbeasting and whale harpooning.

And then sometimes you set him up for an alley oop with a few of your hot friends and he misses the dunk.

[WillburForce]

I recon I could find something attractive enough in most women (aged 18-60ish) after a few beers, that if I was single I would fuck them.

[bikes]

how does that age range of 18-60 and attractive work?????????????

[WillburForce]

QUOTE=bikes;2103456]how does that age range of 18-60 and attractive work?????????????[/QUOTE]

I don't find women un-attractive because they're older...

I'd actually find it wierd having sex with say a 18yo. I'm 34...18-21 just look so young to me

Also much better with an older women. Fact.

[OngBonga]

I retract my statement about cats being rubbish.

I'll rephrase... cats are rubbish pets.

I like cats, I think they're cool animals and all, it's just that they belong outside, they belong with nature, not in my house.

[bikes]

jesus this thread has reminded me how awesome it is to be 23

[NightGizmo]

To OP: you're at college, it's the easiest time of your life to meet new people. Just ignore your fear and try going up to a woman and striking up a conversation. Don't use any cheesy lines, just smile, say hi, and introduce yourself.

If you're too nervous or shy, then work up to it. Like, if you're walking to class and you see a cute girl walking past you, make eye contact and smile. Get used to making eye contact and smiling, you'll be amazed at the responses -- girls will often come over to start the conversation if you smile at them.

Bottom line -- the only way to get more comfortable talking to girls is to get out there and do it. The more practice you have, the more comfortable you will feel. And the more comfortable you feel, the better things will go. And honestly, it's fun -- focus on the fun of meeting new people and try to ignore whatever fear is holding you back.

[Chelle]

I'm 25 and look 17, how does that fair with you WillburForce?

[Penneywize]

@OP:

yeah that last line was a bit of a misstep, I hate to sound trite but you should really be doing your best to give off a "cocky & funny" kind of attitude, even if you aren't like that naturally. You're awesome, she should consider herself lucky to have a chance to be with you. Never forget that. And act accordingly.

"Just be yourself" might be the worst ever advice given. I know it sounds disingenuous but it's true. You need to be a better version of yourself when dating. That's where confidence comes in. Sure, you probably lack it in this area, but it's good practice in life regardless.

As for when you should touch her etc. I think Jyms' advice was pretty good, when you get to a second date or whatever, probably a drinks date, that's a good time to break the "physical" barrier by touching her at some point. Shoulder is a good choice obv, like when saying something that she finds funny and you lean forward a bit and touch her shoulder. Obv it cannot look awkward, best way to do it is to not think about it, and maintain eye contact when you do.

Re. when you should kiss her, end of second date seems like a natural time but every girl is different. Invite her to your place to watch a movie or something, if she agrees then you're pretty much there. Just get to talking and eventually stroke her hair a little. Obviously the subject matter needs to be a little bit more personal by this point. Anyhow, if she lets you play with her hair a little (maybe make a comment about how it looks very soft or some shit) then you're good to go in for a kiss. That be all.

Get that far and then we can discuss intercourse.