FTR = Slowest website on the internet

[BankItDrew]

wtf is up with this shit?!?! redtube I have no problems with, but this place is slower than snails on ketamine.

[mixchange]

I think a lot of people would chip in $$ to make it go faster, I agree it is slow

not that i'm not VERY thankful to those who pay and put in work.

[meeloche]

I like your choice of example of websites that work fine. lol

[flomo]

it has been working fine for me today

[Jibalob]

Maybe it just seems slow to bots because they can process a zillion calculations per second?

[BankItDrew]

I have more than half of the money I wanted to have before I bought my first house, and it's all because of poker and learning to play from FTR and practice... so i'd love to donate.

can xianti or someone give info on production/maintaining/monthly costs?

[BankItDrew]

Maybe it just seems slow to bots because they can process a zillion calculations per second?

it never gets old, does it?

[Jibalob]

Maybe it just seems slow to bots because they can process a zillion calculations per second?

it never gets old, does it?

Never

[spoonitnow]

redtube is the shit

[euphoricism]

People who think FTR needs your donations make me lol.

From what I understand, xianti hates the current host but Tyson and/or Eric put it under contract.

[Andrew]

People who think FTR needs your donations make me lol.

Would this be because Xianti is secretly Doyle Brunson's love child and is pwning 1mNL?

[Lukie]

lol at donating money to a website that was designed (and from all objective estimates, successfully) to make lots of money

i mean, i love FTR dont get me wrong, it's just funny

[jyms]

It is slow though. Slowest site I frequent. i know it's not FTR's fault, but it is an extension of FTR

[will641]

redtube is the shit

agreed.

and also agreed that this site is slow, but it makes up for it for being the shiznit.

[BankItDrew]

can xianti or someone give info on production/maintaining/monthly costs?

or is this request out of the question?

[Lukie]

if the site really is that slow (i never noticed it too much, although now that it's been brought up, it does load slow), then the admins are probably losing a lot more money in missed affiliate conversion than what they are paying to whoever hosts the site.

[will641]

this is just a thought, which is probably wrong, but maybe they went with a cheaper server or provider or whatever when ftr was much smaller, and didnt anticipate it being as big as it is now?

[Warpe]

It is definitely slow and always has been. The bad part is I'm used to it.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Man am I the only one who remembers 56k modems?

[givememyleg]

Man am I the only one who remembers 56k modems?

no way, i remember when i got my new 28.8 baud modem.. man that thing was "fast"

[Anosmic]

[Xianti]

We may still have the same host since those earlier days when I "hated" them (for a period of much-too-frequent downtimes, which was eventually addressed), but we have a different hardware setup and better support from them these days.

I don't know if the slowness can be remedied with a change in host or further hardware upgrades. The fact that such a great number of our pages are database-driven, and that being true with the most popular of our site's pages, has a lot to do with it.

I'm no expert when it comes to these things, so I don't know what else to say. I don't like it either, but have learned to accept it.

[ttanaka]

We are running two dedicated servers - one html and one database. The hosting costs us about $650/month - but I don't think it's hardware related.

The forum has been running slower ever since our redesign and upgrades... we'll look into streamlining the forum, improving the hardware, and looking into our host...

[will641]

Man am I the only one who remembers 56k modems?

does anyone want to remember 56k modems??? and of course everyone over 15 years old remembers 56k modems.

[will641]

sometimes i like to play a game. i close my eyes and count to 10 every time i load a page. a lot of times it is still the same page when i open my eyes again.

[Galapogos]

I have one tab here open and one at 2p2 open. I read 2p2 threads during the loading time of the FTR ones.

[ttanaka]

We had a technician tweak some Apache settings to provide more resources towards requests - are you guys noticing any faster load times?

[drmcboy]

I vote for slow, it is my last page to load out of my 4 homes 99.9%.

Man am I the only one who remembers 56k modems?

fail

[FlyingSaucy]

14.4

[GatorJH]

what kind of database are you running on? Not all DB's are equal and DB response time can be the single point of slowness (is that really a word? lol) for a lot of systems.

[ttanaka]

We're running on MySQL, not sure what version.

This upcoming Sunday, we're upgrading the memory on both the database and Apache servers so hopefully we see some improvements then.

[UG]

Just don't go to a new style of forum like 2p2 and another forum I frequent, where you can only see 10-15 posts "per page." I hate that. I love how on FTR you can see 70 posts without having to click anything, keep it that way please.

[will641]

Just don't go to a new style of forum like 2p2 and another forum I frequent, where you can only see 10-15 posts "per page." I hate that. I love how on FTR you can see 70 posts without having to click anything, keep it that way please.

yeah i agree. something about ftr is just so much easier to scroll through threads. i get lost on other forums.

[Jack Sawyer]

Use Opera Browser ftw, yo!

[Warpe]

[|~|ypermegachi]

if all you guys have is 1 apache server and 1 mysql server i think you may need to start adding more servers and/or clusters to handle the traffic.

[bode]

Just don't go to a new style of forum like 2p2 and another forum I frequent, where you can only see 10-15 posts "per page." I hate that. I love how on FTR you can see 70 posts without having to click anything, keep it that way please.

you do know you can set 2+2 so that you view 100 posts per page, right?

[frosst]

bump

[Eric]

bump

We're working on this, more RAM has been added to the db server. More RAM will be added to the Apache web server soon. Slow forum queries are being identified in mysqld.log.query and mysqld.log.slow. We're hoping to simplify the .htaccess setup soon.

[frosst]

sah-weet.......i need my poker teachings taught to me as fast as possible lol

[Hawk]

Is it just me, or does it seem faster than before?

Not blazing fast, but at least close to what you'd expect from most websites.

[jyms]

Still slow, but it has been a little better.

[Eric]

More RAM was added to our apache server last night. Please let us know if it is faster now.

[bigspenda73]

i think it's been a lot better lately

[jyms]

I agree

[BankItDrew]

good jerb

[UG]

i think it's been a lot better lately

yup, nice job Eric/X/Tyson

[Galapogos]

Stellar.

[Lukie]

Just don't go to a new style of forum like 2p2 and another forum I frequent, where you can only see 10-15 posts "per page." I hate that. I love how on FTR you can see 70 posts without having to click anything, keep it that way please.

lol.

bode already covered it, but still, lol.

Even when i lurk though it is annoying because you pretty much have to login if you want to read through any sort of a long thread.

[UG]

Just don't go to a new style of forum like 2p2 and another forum I frequent, where you can only see 10-15 posts "per page." I hate that. I love how on FTR you can see 70 posts without having to click anything, keep it that way please.

lol.

bode already covered it, but still, lol.

Even when i lurk though it is annoying because you pretty much have to login if you want to read through any sort of a long thread.

these interwebs can be confusing sometimes!

[GatorJH]

Just don't go to a new style of forum like 2p2 and another forum I frequent, where you can only see 10-15 posts "per page." I hate that. I love how on FTR you can see 70 posts without having to click anything, keep it that way please.

lol.

bode already covered it, but still, lol.

Even when i lurk though it is annoying because you pretty much have to login if you want to read through any sort of a long thread.

these interwebs can be confusing sometimes!

be careful what you say about the inteweb. I invented it ya know.

btw, I have noticed that the response time is much faster today. Nice job guys.

[frosst]

yes its definitely faster now. appreciate it guys